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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/

OK, what exactly are we supposed to glean from this list of faculty members?
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
Page 45, section 5, subsection 5.2.1 of the new freeze contract:

“Employer will provide employee with 2 “burner” phones for the reminder of this contract.”
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 08:43 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.

I don’t believe there are many university presidents, who given the choice, would choose to fraternize with their colleagues at Liberty.

Why?

Same reason people hated Notre Dame, then BYU, and now Liberty.

Religious bigotry, all the cool kids dig it
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 11:37 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/

OK, what exactly are we supposed to glean from this list of faculty members?

Glean from it what you will….
I look at it and am taken aback by the lightweight academic resumes… perhaps, you see it as refreshing.
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 12:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:37 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/

OK, what exactly are we supposed to glean from this list of faculty members?

Glean from it what you will….
I look at it and am taken aback by the lightweight academic resumes… perhaps, you see it as refreshing.

I take it you cant find any of them that have highly esteemed gender studies credentials?
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 12:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:37 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/

OK, what exactly are we supposed to glean from this list of faculty members?

Glean from it what you will….
I look at it and am taken aback by the lightweight academic resumes… perhaps, you see it as refreshing.

I take it you cant find any of them that have highly esteemed gender studies credentials?

To be fair in the first page I scrolled through there were several university of Phoenix and Capella University degrees listed.

I don’t know of any academic faculty from other universities who list online paper mills as part of their staff’s credentials.
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 11:43 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  Page 45, section 5, subsection 5.2.1 of the new freeze contract:

“Employer will provide employee with 2 “burner” phones for the reminder of this contract.”

Lmao
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 12:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:37 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/

OK, what exactly are we supposed to glean from this list of faculty members?

Glean from it what you will….
I look at it and am taken aback by the lightweight academic resumes… perhaps, you see it as refreshing.

I saw lots of names with doctoral degrees from various institutions.



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there's no telling how much Hugh actually makes. he can say he makes 4 million all he wants..only he and the folks over at Liberty know
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/

LOL! The "academics" that turn their nose up at others are the same "enlightened" souls that can't figure out which restroom to use or how many genders there are! 03-lmfao
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RE: Liberty expected to sign Freeze to $4M+ per year deal.
(11-24-2021 08:36 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 05:58 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
07-coffee307-coffee3 Hey Geo. While having my coffee this morning I remembered that I had a couple of questions that I have been meaning to ask you.
(1) When you say in your avatar that you got Cleopatra in your basement do you mean that you have her in your basement now which I think she would just be a skeleton now, or do you mean that you "GOT" her in your basement at one time a long long time ago. I did not think you were that old.
(2) When you say you root for Brandon, just which Brandon are you talking about ???
(3) If we had invited Liberty to the AAC then maybe one day they could have played in the actual Liberty Bowl Game in the Liberty Bowl Stadium and that would be unique.

(3) isn't a question.

Well, did say a couple (2) of questions....
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(11-24-2021 02:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 10:43 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.
There were probably political reasons they didnt include Liberty IMO

If you look at the faculty roster, I think it gives a little insight into why academics turn their collective noses up at Liberty; and it’s the academics who ultimately make conference affiliation decisions.

https://catalog.liberty.edu/undergraduate/faculty/

LOL! The "academics" that turn their nose up at others are the same "enlightened" souls that can't figure out which restroom to use or how many genders there are! 03-lmfao

This is true. And they think they're better than everyone else.
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(11-24-2021 08:52 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  The Lord works in mysterious ways.

The Lord definitely works in mischievous ways…05-stirthepot
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(11-24-2021 02:42 PM)holyterror Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 08:52 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  The Lord works in mysterious ways.

The Lord definitely works in mischievous ways…05-stirthepot

Except on Sunday
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(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.

Too much hatred of the Christian religion.

The liberal / Marxist main stream media and most of academia and most of Hollywood have sowed their seeds of hatred and propaganda for decades now and, particularly with the last two generations it has done its work.
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(11-24-2021 02:50 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
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Too much hatred of the Christian religion.

The liberal / Marxist main stream media and most of academia and most of Hollywood have sowed their seeds of hatred and propaganda for decades now and, particularly with the last two generations it has done its work.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not the angry self-righteousness, or violation of individual rights throughout history due to religion (or Christianity) in this country, or the sudden mingling of Christianity and nationalism that's pervading the American church in many places. And I am sure it's not the hypocrisy of many religious figures in this country that hasn't turned people away.
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(11-24-2021 02:54 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:50 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.

Too much hatred of the Christian religion.

The liberal / Marxist main stream media and most of academia and most of Hollywood have sowed their seeds of hatred and propaganda for decades now and, particularly with the last two generations it has done its work.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not the angry self-righteousness, or violation of individual rights throughout history due to religion (or Christianity) in this country, or the sudden mingling of Christianity and nationalism that's pervading the American church in many places. And I am sure it's not the hypocrisy of many religious figures in this country that hasn't turned people away.

There's a lot of truth in that, as well. Many of those who claim "Christianity", today especially, are horrible human beings.
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(11-24-2021 02:54 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
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(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.

Too much hatred of the Christian religion.

The liberal / Marxist main stream media and most of academia and most of Hollywood have sowed their seeds of hatred and propaganda for decades now and, particularly with the last two generations it has done its work.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not the angry self-righteousness, or violation of individual rights throughout history due to religion (or Christianity) in this country, or the sudden mingling of Christianity and nationalism that's pervading the American church in many places. And I am sure it's not the hypocrisy of many religious figures in this country that hasn't turned people away.

Care to elaborate?
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(11-24-2021 03:34 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:54 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:50 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 02:03 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It was a huge mistake to not go after Liberty to join the a AAC.

Too much hatred of the Christian religion.

The liberal / Marxist main stream media and most of academia and most of Hollywood have sowed their seeds of hatred and propaganda for decades now and, particularly with the last two generations it has done its work.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not the angry self-righteousness, or violation of individual rights throughout history due to religion (or Christianity) in this country, or the sudden mingling of Christianity and nationalism that's pervading the American church in many places. And I am sure it's not the hypocrisy of many religious figures in this country that hasn't turned people away.

Care to elaborate?

Sure.

Which part?

The part of Christianity being used to promote slavery in the early days of the country? Or even for segregation? Or the use of Christianity to violate the privacy of individuals because they were homosexual like the anti-sodomy laws that pretty much were "constitutional" up until 2003? And how Christianity is finding a new target in trans people?

Obviously, I am someone who is pro-choice so I also see that as a violation of rights based on religious/Christian grounds through various anti-abortion laws which some them are beyond draconian or incomprehensible. But that's a more complex argument.

As for nationalism pervading Christianity, or this weird American Identity pinching hitting for Christianity, it seems to be growing a lot amongst the Republican Party. You can see it easily among the weird "QAnon" ranks. I see it on Fox News or OANN, but I specifically see it growing among conversations here in South Carolina. To the extent of its worse type of manifestations, there is a "Patriot Church" in Knoxville, TN that conflates the two together, with also some bigoted sermons.

I also couldn't give you enough on the hypocrisy of many so called Christians, which also include political issues (of how they view Trump and Biden altogether), but also people who are massive figures like Joel Osteen and the Falwells (pretty much any evangelical of that level).

Hypocrisy is not a attribute of Christianity of course. But if you're wondering why there is souring in America towards Christianity and religion altogether and the church (nevermind big scandals like child abuse in Catholic churches), then these things all play a role. I am sure some of academia and propaganda has played some role, but I think it lacks self-awareness not to notice how religion has marginalized people in the country.

If Christianity wants to grow back, it's probably going to have to step away and analyze itself of how to return back to the ideas of Christ, and not the ideas of Americanism here in the U.S. . They're not one in the same.
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