Literally shaking my head.

Well, that's retarded. Now, I'm all for getting rid of the turkey but that's because I don't like it. I've been trying for over 20 years now to unsuccessfully lobby the wife to let me have a Thanksgiving taco feast instead.

As far as charging my guests, that's some cheap @ss garbage right there. No cover charge, but you're welcome to BYOB.

Yes, Joe Biden’s Policies Are Inflating The Cost Of Your Thanksgiving Meal

Quote:Inflation is having a tangible impact on the holiday dinner table. Research shows that this year, Americans will pay 15 percent more for their Thanksgiving meal.

A traditional dinner for 10, including turkey, bread stuffing, sweet potatoes, rolls with butter, peas, cranberries, a relish tray of carrots and celery, pumpkin pie with whipped cream, coffee, and milk or water to drink will cost $53.94 this year, according to our calculations. This is 15 percent higher than last year’s 10-year low of $46.90 and 9.87 percent higher than the previous 10-year average of $49.10, according to Statista.

Some Americans will choose to substitute chicken for the traditional turkey, as turkey prices are up between 20 and 24 percent, to make the meal more affordable. Some have even gone as far as to suggest that Americans forgo the protein altogether in order to make ends meet.

The cost to travel and spend Thanksgiving with family or friends will also be considerably higher in 2021. Based on current national averages: gasoline is up 61 percent; hotels are up more than 15 percent; airline tickets are up more than 24 percent; rental cars are up roughly 86 percent; new cars are up 9.8 percent; and the cost of used cars, SUVs, and trucks are up almost 26 percent year over year.

It’s Not Just The Supply Chain
Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman often referred to inflation as a “cruel tax.” He noted that inflation reduces a person’s purchasing power as more dollars are injected into the economy relative to output, making each dollar less valuable and harming the poor disproportionately. Not to mention inflation could place a person in a higher tax bracket, presenting a double whammy.

Current year-over-year inflation in the United States is running at 6.2 percent with states like Michigan running at roughly 6.5 percent, slightly higher than the national average. Midwest states are experiencing 6.6 percent inflation on average, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

There is much debate as to whether this inflationary spike is transitory or permanent and how much of our current rising prices are caused by supply chain malfunctions or an increase in demand for a popular product or service. Or whether it is, as scholars like Friedman would argue, largely due to excessive government spending and monetary policy unleashed using the excuse of the pandemic.

One can certainly look at the more than $2 trillion the Federal Reserve has injected into the economy in the last two years and upwards of $8 trillion more designated or under debate to be spent as the root cause of today’s inflation surge. This excessive liquidity in the capital markets certainly validates many textbook explanations of why prices across the economy are increasing with no general explanation other than there is more money in the economy chasing the same or slightly more goods and services.

The rising price of Thanksgiving dinner and travel is evidence that excessive government monetary and fiscal policy is a problem here at Thanksgiving, much more than supply chain problems.

We hope at this time of year Americans reflect on the very meaning of Thanksgiving. With inflation at a 31-year high, many more people will need to depend on Thanksgiving generosity in 2021, so we must all do our best to reach out with treasure and time to enhance the Thanksgivings of others this year while enhancing our own meal by being thankful and giving.

We can only hope Washington finally acknowledges the “root cause” for inflation and fixes it by early 2022.

From the Atlantic:
Deprogram your relatives this Thanksgiving

Quote:Some people (like my friend Tom Nichols) think that you should spend your Thanksgiving playing nice, pretending that your cousin doesn’t follow QAnon and that your uncle doesn’t believe the election was stolen and also that the Cyber Ninjas are a bunch of cucks for not uncovering voter fraud. Tom believes that Thanksgiving is a time for harmony and niceties and gratitude. I love Tom, but he’s completely wrong.

Spending a holiday sitting around, pretending your crazy relatives aren’t crazy, is one of America’s time-honored traditions. In normal times, you could be the dog in the house-fire meme declaring, “This is fine” while taking a sip of doggy coffee, but we are not in normal times.

Last Thanksgiving, many of us didn’t see our families, because the pandemic was raging. Now, 773,000 dead Americans later, we have vaccines and boosters. And while the unvaccinated are still dying at a pretty rapid clip, we are finally able to more safely get together with our parents and grandparents and weird cousins and uncles.

This is your chance to deprogram them. Facebook knows its algorithm radicalizes users. This is your chance to tell your aunt that maybe the news she gets from it isn’t all that reliable. And that maybe the MAGA news network is not giving her unbiased news, either.

Especially when it comes to vaccines, family members can actually win each other’s hearts and minds. A professor who has studied coronavirus-vaccine promotion at North Carolina State University, Stacy Wood, told The Washington Post that “the effort is worthwhile … A lot of people are convinced over time from small bits of information that trickle in.” According to a Time/Harris poll, 59 percent of people got vaccinated after a friend or family member did. You could literally save your creepy uncle’s life.

If you actually can lead by example when it comes to vaccines, what about the other stuff?

In May, The New York Times cited a poll in which “15 percent of Americans [said] they think that the levers of power are controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles.” I’m no statistician—in fact I’m barely able to add and subtract; I got a D in tenth-grade math—but to me that says there’s a decent chance someone at your Thanksgiving table will be QAnon-curious or believe the Big Lie. Should you let this person rant and rave about how there were voting “irregularities” even though there weren’t irregularities? If they’re keeping up with current events through Facebook and Fox News, they’re in such an information silo that they might never hear the truth of what really happened during the 2020 election. (For the record: Nothing happened; it was a completely normal election where Joe Biden won by almost the same margin that Donald Trump won in 2016.)

You might be the only person your uncle talks to all year who could explain to him that the Cyber Ninjas themselves found zero evidence of voter fraud. You might be the only person in the world who can sit down with your anti-vax cousin and explain to her that the vaccine won’t make her infertile and that Alex Berenson is a fraud.

You may also be the one person who unreservedly loves Thanksgiving, but let’s be honest, for most of us a five-hour meal with relatives you see once a year is no one’s idea of a great time. Have you ever thought, This is the gauzy Hallmark-movie fantasy I’ve always longed for?

I’ve done 43 Thanksgivings, and the best one was probably in 1997, when I was 19 and getting sober at Hazelden in Center City, Minnesota. I’m here to tell you Thanksgiving is terrible, and if you at least spend the time trying to deprogram your niece, you won’t be bored or depressed (though you might be enraged that Fox News or Infowars has convinced her Trump can “save America” from Joe Biden’s radical agenda of giving people hearing aids and free pre-K).

Maybe it won’t work. Maybe you’ll leave Thanksgiving dinner as divided as you were when you sat down at the table five hours and 4,000 calories ago. Or maybe you’ll plant the seed, sow just a little doubt about whatever Tucker Carlson is saying now. Maybe you’ll even change a heart or a mind. Maybe you’ll bring the temperature down just a tiny bit. Or maybe you’ll need to report a relative to the FBI! Either way, it’s something to do besides just eat.

(11-24-2021 09:56 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  Well, that's retarded. Now, I'm all for getting rid of the turkey but that's because I don't like it. I've been trying for over 20 years now to unsuccessfully lobby the wife to let me have a Thanksgiving taco feast instead.

As far as charging my guests, that's some cheap @ss garbage right there. No cover charge, but you're welcome to BYOB.

We banned turkey a long time ago. No doubt a cajun fried turkey is pretty damn good but not worth the trouble. Thanksgiving is generally a smaller gathering and I will smoke a prime rib which boy was that expensive this year. Christmas is spaghetti and meatballs for my italian wife's family tradition. Not too expensive to feed the whole big family that way.

(11-24-2021 09:56 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  Well, that's retarded. Now, I'm all for getting rid of the turkey but that's because I don't like it. I've been trying for over 20 years now to unsuccessfully lobby the wife to let me have a Thanksgiving taco feast instead.

As far as charging my guests, that's some cheap @ss garbage right there. No cover charge, but you're welcome to BYOB.

I'm told this is a common practice of a certain race of people. If they have a party you might be required to pay for drinks.

(11-24-2021 01:16 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

From the Atlantic:
Deprogram your relatives this Thanksgiving

Quote:Some people (like my friend Tom Nichols) think that you should spend your Thanksgiving playing nice, pretending that your cousin doesn’t follow QAnon and that your uncle doesn’t believe the election was stolen and also that the Cyber Ninjas are a bunch of cucks for not uncovering voter fraud. Tom believes that Thanksgiving is a time for harmony and niceties and gratitude. I love Tom, but he’s completely wrong.

Spending a holiday sitting around, pretending your crazy relatives aren’t crazy, is one of America’s time-honored traditions. In normal times, you could be the dog in the house-fire meme declaring, “This is fine” while taking a sip of doggy coffee, but we are not in normal times.

Last Thanksgiving, many of us didn’t see our families, because the pandemic was raging. Now, 773,000 dead Americans later, we have vaccines and boosters. And while the unvaccinated are still dying at a pretty rapid clip, we are finally able to more safely get together with our parents and grandparents and weird cousins and uncles.

This is your chance to deprogram them. Facebook knows its algorithm radicalizes users. This is your chance to tell your aunt that maybe the news she gets from it isn’t all that reliable. And that maybe the MAGA news network is not giving her unbiased news, either.

Especially when it comes to vaccines, family members can actually win each other’s hearts and minds. A professor who has studied coronavirus-vaccine promotion at North Carolina State University, Stacy Wood, told The Washington Post that “the effort is worthwhile … A lot of people are convinced over time from small bits of information that trickle in.” According to a Time/Harris poll, 59 percent of people got vaccinated after a friend or family member did. You could literally save your creepy uncle’s life.

If you actually can lead by example when it comes to vaccines, what about the other stuff?

In May, The New York Times cited a poll in which “15 percent of Americans [said] they think that the levers of power are controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles.” I’m no statistician—in fact I’m barely able to add and subtract; I got a D in tenth-grade math—but to me that says there’s a decent chance someone at your Thanksgiving table will be QAnon-curious or believe the Big Lie. Should you let this person rant and rave about how there were voting “irregularities” even though there weren’t irregularities? If they’re keeping up with current events through Facebook and Fox News, they’re in such an information silo that they might never hear the truth of what really happened during the 2020 election. (For the record: Nothing happened; it was a completely normal election where Joe Biden won by almost the same margin that Donald Trump won in 2016.)

You might be the only person your uncle talks to all year who could explain to him that the Cyber Ninjas themselves found zero evidence of voter fraud. You might be the only person in the world who can sit down with your anti-vax cousin and explain to her that the vaccine won’t make her infertile and that Alex Berenson is a fraud.

You may also be the one person who unreservedly loves Thanksgiving, but let’s be honest, for most of us a five-hour meal with relatives you see once a year is no one’s idea of a great time. Have you ever thought, This is the gauzy Hallmark-movie fantasy I’ve always longed for?

I’ve done 43 Thanksgivings, and the best one was probably in 1997, when I was 19 and getting sober at Hazelden in Center City, Minnesota. I’m here to tell you Thanksgiving is terrible, and if you at least spend the time trying to deprogram your niece, you won’t be bored or depressed (though you might be enraged that Fox News or Infowars has convinced her Trump can “save America” from Joe Biden’s radical agenda of giving people hearing aids and free pre-K).

Maybe it won’t work. Maybe you’ll leave Thanksgiving dinner as divided as you were when you sat down at the table five hours and 4,000 calories ago. Or maybe you’ll plant the seed, sow just a little doubt about whatever Tucker Carlson is saying now. Maybe you’ll even change a heart or a mind. Maybe you’ll bring the temperature down just a tiny bit. Or maybe you’ll need to report a relative to the FBI! Either way, it’s something to do besides just eat.

People like this writer don’t value family in the first place. If he was my relative I’d tell him he’s not invited to my thanksgiving dinner.

Hopefully these idiots don’t breed.

Liberal logic 101.

You have no clue, so just do something idiotic.

Just charge your liberal guests and maybe they won't come. If they show and complain say they voted for this and hand them a bill.

(11-24-2021 04:10 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Just charge your liberal guests and maybe they won't come. If they show and complain say they voted for this and hand them a bill.

Fortunately for me I have no liberals invited to my house. Problem solved.

(11-24-2021 03:30 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Hopefully these idiots don’t breed.

Amen. Here's an idea... instead of requiring people to provide a negative Rona test to enter your home for Thanksgiving dinner (it's so asinine I can't believe I just typed that) how about you get the "vaccine" if you're so terrified, and then you are safe, right? If you are "vaccinated" why are you worried about someone being "unvaccinated" or being Rona positive? YOU ARE "SAFE"!

(11-24-2021 01:16 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

From the Atlantic:
Deprogram your relatives this Thanksgiving

Quote:Some people (like my friend Tom Nichols) think that you should spend your Thanksgiving playing nice, pretending that your cousin doesn’t follow QAnon and that your uncle doesn’t believe the election was stolen and also that the Cyber Ninjas are a bunch of cucks for not uncovering voter fraud. Tom believes that Thanksgiving is a time for harmony and niceties and gratitude. I love Tom, but he’s completely wrong.

Spending a holiday sitting around, pretending your crazy relatives aren’t crazy, is one of America’s time-honored traditions. In normal times, you could be the dog in the house-fire meme declaring, “This is fine” while taking a sip of doggy coffee, but we are not in normal times.

Last Thanksgiving, many of us didn’t see our families, because the pandemic was raging. Now, 773,000 dead Americans later, we have vaccines and boosters. And while the unvaccinated are still dying at a pretty rapid clip, we are finally able to more safely get together with our parents and grandparents and weird cousins and uncles.

This is your chance to deprogram them. Facebook knows its algorithm radicalizes users. This is your chance to tell your aunt that maybe the news she gets from it isn’t all that reliable. And that maybe the MAGA news network is not giving her unbiased news, either.

Especially when it comes to vaccines, family members can actually win each other’s hearts and minds. A professor who has studied coronavirus-vaccine promotion at North Carolina State University, Stacy Wood, told The Washington Post that “the effort is worthwhile … A lot of people are convinced over time from small bits of information that trickle in.” According to a Time/Harris poll, 59 percent of people got vaccinated after a friend or family member did. You could literally save your creepy uncle’s life.

If you actually can lead by example when it comes to vaccines, what about the other stuff?

In May, The New York Times cited a poll in which “15 percent of Americans [said] they think that the levers of power are controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles.” I’m no statistician—in fact I’m barely able to add and subtract; I got a D in tenth-grade math—but to me that says there’s a decent chance someone at your Thanksgiving table will be QAnon-curious or believe the Big Lie. Should you let this person rant and rave about how there were voting “irregularities” even though there weren’t irregularities? If they’re keeping up with current events through Facebook and Fox News, they’re in such an information silo that they might never hear the truth of what really happened during the 2020 election. (For the record: Nothing happened; it was a completely normal election where Joe Biden won by almost the same margin that Donald Trump won in 2016.)

You might be the only person your uncle talks to all year who could explain to him that the Cyber Ninjas themselves found zero evidence of voter fraud. You might be the only person in the world who can sit down with your anti-vax cousin and explain to her that the vaccine won’t make her infertile and that Alex Berenson is a fraud.

You may also be the one person who unreservedly loves Thanksgiving, but let’s be honest, for most of us a five-hour meal with relatives you see once a year is no one’s idea of a great time. Have you ever thought, This is the gauzy Hallmark-movie fantasy I’ve always longed for?

I’ve done 43 Thanksgivings, and the best one was probably in 1997, when I was 19 and getting sober at Hazelden in Center City, Minnesota. I’m here to tell you Thanksgiving is terrible, and if you at least spend the time trying to deprogram your niece, you won’t be bored or depressed (though you might be enraged that Fox News or Infowars has convinced her Trump can “save America” from Joe Biden’s radical agenda of giving people hearing aids and free pre-K).

Maybe it won’t work. Maybe you’ll leave Thanksgiving dinner as divided as you were when you sat down at the table five hours and 4,000 calories ago. Or maybe you’ll plant the seed, sow just a little doubt about whatever Tucker Carlson is saying now. Maybe you’ll even change a heart or a mind. Maybe you’ll bring the temperature down just a tiny bit. Or maybe you’ll need to report a relative to the FBI! Either way, it’s something to do besides just eat.

These clowns are just too much. I have only ever had over close friends and family for Thanksgiving. Who is he having over that he needs to check their Covid status. I can see me asking my Mother for her Covid credentials before she can come in. That would go over like a lead balloon. The spirit gives life and the flesh counts for nothing. John 6 Nothing can separate us from God not even Covid Romans 8. Live in fear for what your flesh? Matthew 10

(11-24-2021 07:02 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(11-24-2021 04:10 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Just charge your liberal guests and maybe they won't come. If they show and complain say they voted for this and hand them a bill.

Fortunately for me I have no liberals invited to my house. Problem solved.

Same here actually. Something that I'm very thankful for this Thanksgiving.

(11-23-2021 09:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

an Asian talking about having an Italian feast? That's "cultural appropriation", she's RACIST

So is it the cool thing to bash eating turkey nowadays? My guess is you people don't know how to cook one.

(11-25-2021 07:42 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  

(11-23-2021 09:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

an Asian talking about having an Italian feast? That's "cultural appropriation", she's RACIST

Our Italian fest is reserved for Christmas.

Beside, more people would show up if it was an Italian fest.

I am not a turkey fan. So we are doing a Honeybaked ham. Best was one year when we did seared Ahi tuna, the "other 'tu' meat."

Do large families not split up the cooking and cost any more or is that just something us poor folks grew up doing? In my family up until maybe 15 years ago when it got kind of small and everyone lives too far apart..

Well the women folks all called each other or got together and said..."I'm bring this, you make your special, so and so, and sister, you make the best so and so you bring that". Other words what you are best at, you make and bring. Or better yet everyone is over to grandma's house a full day before Thanksgiving putting together what they make best and cooking all night...

or got too drunk and then grandma moved in to do the real cooking, homemade biscuits, pies and cakes from scratch and the best damn turkey, cornbread dressing and dumplings known to man. I really miss those days when there were 30 to 40 people and most of the family getting together in a house that was too small for 10 much less 30+

Well other than the smoke, drunks, and fight(s) later that thanksgiving night