Should UNCW try and bring him back if he does get the boot? Is there any interest from the fans in doing so?

(12-22-2021 09:35 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Should UNCW try and bring him back if he does get the boot? Is there any interest from the fans in doing so?

Hypothetically, I'd welcome Keatts back, but I have no idea what that looks like given our current situation. I don't see it happening.

(12-22-2021 09:35 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Should UNCW try and bring him back if he does get the boot? Is there any interest from the fans in doing so?

If Keatts goes, he will still land a job in a P5 conference. No way he comes back to UNCW for financial reasons alone.

(12-22-2021 09:56 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 09:35 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Should UNCW try and bring him back if he does get the boot? Is there any interest from the fans in doing so?

If Keatts goes, he will still land a job in a P5 conference. No way he comes back to UNCW for financial reasons alone.

Yeah, I'd have to agree on this. I can see him taking a pay cut of some sort but not as drastic of a cut as going back to what we could afford. Not only that, but that would be an awful look for him and Siddle, because we'd have to let Siddle go then hire his old boss. Yikes. PR nightmare there. I would have to think if there's ever a chance Keatts comes back, he'd have to go fail somewhere else between NCSU and us, and we'd have to be a coach separated between him and Siddle. The only other way I could foresee that working out is if Siddle magically turns this train around, starts winning big like Keatts did and lands himself a P5 job while Keatts misses again at another school. That's the only way I see a Siddle back to Keatts transition working.

Pretty good day for the CAA to pretty much end OOC play.

UNCW beat Campbell
Hofstra destroying Monmouth(10-2)
Towson beats Navy(7-4)
William and Mary lost to Valpo

CofC in a tight one, but leading, against ODU.

Everybody won tonight except bill & the virgin. That's 4 out of 5. Good night for the conference.

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That pushes the CAA up to 12th in the Conference RPI rankings. Not too shabby.

(12-22-2021 10:26 PM)Proff Wrote:  Everybody won tonight except bill & the virgin. That's 4 out of 5. Good night for the conference.

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Hofstra looked like they were going to run away with it against Monmouth. I watched the last four minutes of that game and Monmouth is a really good team. They had a big man that was doing it in the paint, from three and at the FT line. 26 pts. 9-12 from the field, 3-4 from three and 5-7 FT's with 6 rebounds.

Monmouth had beaten Towson, St. Josephs, Princeton, Cincinnati, Pitt, Yale and Colgate and lost to St. Johns by 5 and Charlotte by 2 as their only losses. That was a huge win for Hofstra. They're going to be tough in the CAA.

CofC won on a last second shot to beat ODU in a great finish.

(12-22-2021 11:36 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  That pushes the CAA up to 12th in the Conference RPI rankings. Not too shabby.

9- A10
10 - American
11- SoCon
12- CAA
13- Sun Belt
14- MAC
15 - CUSA

(12-23-2021 06:20 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 11:36 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  That pushes the CAA up to 12th in the Conference RPI rankings. Not too shabby.

9- A10
10 - American
11- SoCon
12- CAA
13- Sun Belt
14- MAC
15 - CUSA

The NET Conference Rankings are
9 - WCC
10 - A10
11 - MVC
12 - SoCon
13 - CUSA
14 - WAC
15 - CAA

The American is 8th, the Sun Belt is 17, and the MAC is 20

(12-22-2021 09:56 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 09:35 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Should UNCW try and bring him back if he does get the boot? Is there any interest from the fans in doing so?

If Keatts goes, he will still land a job in a P5 conference. No way he comes back to UNCW for financial reasons alone.

No chance he gets another P5 job without going somewhere else first and win if he gets fired -zero .

(12-23-2021 10:33 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 09:56 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 09:35 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Should UNCW try and bring him back if he does get the boot? Is there any interest from the fans in doing so?

If Keatts goes, he will still land a job in a P5 conference. No way he comes back to UNCW for financial reasons alone.

No chance he gets another P5 job without going somewhere else first and win if he gets fired -zero .

I'd take that bet

Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

(12-23-2021 11:52 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

Manning stumbled right into the Interim tag at Maryland. I think leading a Mid is a better spot than a P5 assistant. Look at how many P5 assistants fail making the jump to HC.

(12-23-2021 11:52 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

There are multiple P5 schools that would snap up Keatts. Winning in the ACC and at NCSU is a tough gig and Keatts plays a style a lot of schools would like.

(12-23-2021 12:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 11:52 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

There are multiple P5 schools that would snap up Keatts. Winning in the ACC and at NCSU is a tough gig and Keatts plays a style a lot of schools would like.

He's had the red sea part with Roy leaving UNC and K leaving Duke next year, and he's still getting beat by teams they have no business losing too. Eventually the proof is in the pudding. Other guys that left state and went on to other P5s actually has some success while at state, he hasn't.

(12-23-2021 12:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 12:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 11:52 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

There are multiple P5 schools that would snap up Keatts. Winning in the ACC and at NCSU is a tough gig and Keatts plays a style a lot of schools would like.

He's had the red sea part with Roy leaving UNC and K leaving Duke next year, and he's still getting beat by teams they have no business losing too. Eventually the proof is in the pudding. Other guys that left state and went on to other P5s actually has some success while at state, he hasn't.

You're dismissing the fact that many schools are just looking for a decent program, not necessarily a championship program. Brownell has been mediocre at best at Clemson, and he's still there. Pitt, Boston College, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Miss St. are all P5 schools that have never been in championship consideration and would certainly take a chance on Keatts.

(12-23-2021 12:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 11:52 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

There are multiple P5 schools that would snap up Keatts. Winning in the ACC and at NCSU is a tough gig and Keatts plays a style a lot of schools would like.

Name one P5 school that would hire Keatts after and if he gets fired at State. His brand is boring and he is not winning -frankly I don't know what State is waiting for with this . They don't defend and they don't score much-so what is appealing about that ?

(12-23-2021 12:52 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 12:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 12:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 11:52 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

There are multiple P5 schools that would snap up Keatts. Winning in the ACC and at NCSU is a tough gig and Keatts plays a style a lot of schools would like.

He's had the red sea part with Roy leaving UNC and K leaving Duke next year, and he's still getting beat by teams they have no business losing too. Eventually the proof is in the pudding. Other guys that left state and went on to other P5s actually has some success while at state, he hasn't.

You're dismissing the fact that many schools are just looking for a decent program, not necessarily a championship program. Brownell has been mediocre at best at Clemson, and he's still there. Pitt, Boston College, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Miss St. are all P5 schools that have never been in championship consideration and would certainly take a chance on Keatts.

I'm not going to look them all up, but taking South Carolina for example, why the heck would they fire Martin, who is well above .500 for KK who's winning % is only slightly better at State? Same Thing with BB's winning %? And both of those guys came from successful last stops before landing where they are.

(12-23-2021 01:00 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 12:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 11:52 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Thinking of Keatts, I looked to see Danny Manning's record at Wake. I was thinking that Keatts may be more likely to go P5 assistant route, but he's way better than Manning. Manning was awful. How did he get 6 years at Wake?

There are multiple P5 schools that would snap up Keatts. Winning in the ACC and at NCSU is a tough gig and Keatts plays a style a lot of schools would like.

Name one P5 school that would hire Keatts after and if he gets fired at State. His brand is boring and he is not winning -frankly I don't know what State is waiting for with this . They don't defend and they don't score much-so what is appealing about that ?

You’re acting like coaches before him at NCSU haven’t been hired by P5s as head coaches.

I’m not understanding your logic, especially considering how many P5s are out there.


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