Is ESPN going to bid on CUSA’s upcoming media deal or is CUSA still persona non grata with ESPN? Since we already know the conference’s next media deal will be worth no more than a McDonald’s voucher for a Big Mac CUSA should just hand over all of its programming to ESPN for free. Make it a short term 3 to 5 year deal and hope this giveaway to ESPN gets your programs more exposure, which will help recruiting. If the CUSA schools do well and improve during this initial short term deal maybe ESPN will pay the conference a few bucks when the contract is up for renewal.

(11-22-2021 10:09 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  Pathetic…western fans dancing around the answer…there’s no mystery school out there that you may suddenly discover that you’re going to talk into moving up to AVOID EKU.
I can guarantee we are ready, done our homework, have the leadership in place, have plans in place for more work to facilities beyond what’s already been done, and are as ready as, are you kidding me, Tarleton State, along with others some keep pushing, a D2 move up who might be a go at some time and a few others mentioned that you might persuade …….hell, there’s no reason we are not as ready as JSU, other than they are in the deep southern footprint as a replacement your conference wanted, but that’s it…our basketball is as good or better, our basketball arena is certainly better. Talking about attendance, SH only had just above 7000 against us a few weeks ago on a nice day. I’ve read all these discussions, the pros and cons and there’s no convincing evidence that any school discussed on here, other than North Dakota and Missouri State might be better. UCA…no. If you all want lo be a majority Texas league, that's a horse of a different color, but we played four Texas schools this fall, and that is a long haul from Kentucky much less points further east.
Like it or not, call it like I see it, it is extremely low class and cowardly to take this stance against EKU. Can't imagine the indignation you all would have felt had UK and Louisville fought your move. Maybe you administration has better sense.

EKU will get in if WKU leaves, the question is who will replace Charlotte, FAU, and Southern Miss. I would tap into Georgia. Georgia is one of the best state for recruiting. Texas, FL, CA, GA are the top states for college recruiting. The other teams in C-USA could benefit from that.

(11-22-2021 10:38 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 10:09 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  Pathetic…western fans dancing around the answer…there’s no mystery school out there that you may suddenly discover that you’re going to talk into moving up to AVOID EKU.
I can guarantee we are ready, done our homework, have the leadership in place, have plans in place for more work to facilities beyond what’s already been done, and are as ready as, are you kidding me, Tarleton State, along with others some keep pushing, a D2 move up who might be a go at some time and a few others mentioned that you might persuade …….hell, there’s no reason we are not as ready as JSU, other than they are in the deep southern footprint as a replacement your conference wanted, but that’s it…our basketball is as good or better, our basketball arena is certainly better. Talking about attendance, SH only had just above 7000 against us a few weeks ago on a nice day. I’ve read all these discussions, the pros and cons and there’s no convincing evidence that any school discussed on here, other than North Dakota and Missouri State might be better. UCA…no. If you all want lo be a majority Texas league, that's a horse of a different color, but we played four Texas schools this fall, and that is a long haul from Kentucky much less points further east.
Like it or not, call it like I see it, it is extremely low class and cowardly to take this stance against EKU. Can't imagine the indignation you all would have felt had UK and Louisville fought your move. Maybe you administration has better sense.

EKU will get in if WKU leaves, the question is who will replace Charlotte, FAU, and Southern Miss. I would tap into Georgia. Georgia is one of the best state for recruiting. Texas, FL, CA, GA are the top states for college recruiting. The other teams in C-USA could benefit from that.

That is not the point....the whining about UK and Louisville keeping them down, yet they will attempt to do same to any other school in Kentucky, and especially where EKU is concerned...I have read numerous posts about realignment...have not heard MTSU or Troy State fans rail against another U in their state (JSU, Chatty) and their desire to make a move. You would have to live here to get it.

troy state did not want us in the SBC and Im sure would rather we were not in CUSA.

Im probably different than most but give me programs who want to win and are close by. Competition is fun and if we cant compete then we will get beat.

(11-22-2021 11:16 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  troy state did not want us in the SBC and Im sure would rather we were not in CUSA.

Im probably different than most but give me programs who want to win and are close by. Competition is fun and if we cant compete then we will get beat.

I dream that KSU would go to C-USA. I am getting tired of beating up on teams. We have proven that we are the best FCS team in the southeast.

LexColonel ----Pathetic WKU fans dancing around "the" answer? WKU does not control the conference. I'm sure UTEP, FIU, MT and LA TECH do not think that EKU is "the" answer. IF they did-- they could simply outvote WKU!

There is NO perfect answer. Also-- what do you know about C-USA? WKU has been fighting a strong TEXAS BIAS by leadership and Texas schools since we left the SBC. I would fully expect the next add to be Missouri St. or to come from TEXAS. There are already five of the nine east of the Mississippi. We have fought (and lost) this battle for years. Tarleton St. and others were certainly not our idea.

That is one of the reasons we tried and came within an inch of going to the MAC.

AND if we had received that invite-- EKU would have had a great chance at getting in to CUSA.

Do you really think we would have turned down the MAC just to keep you out of CUSA? Come on.

Take your frustrations out on MT or the SBC(who also turned us down)--- if EITHER of those had happened you are probably in CUSA right now.

When/IF we ever leave C-USA you are MORE than welcome to our slot and--- have fun on all those trips to Texas.

Add Kennesaw State, Tennessee State, & NC A&T.

East: Liberty, NC A&T, KSU, FIU, WKU, MTSU

West: NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, La Tech, TSU, JSU

(11-22-2021 11:34 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  LexColonel ----Pathetic WKU fans dancing around "the" answer? WKU does not control the conference. I'm sure UTEP, FIU, MT and LA TECH do not think that EKU is "the" answer. IF they did-- they could simply outvote WKU!

There is NO perfect answer. Also-- what do you know about C-USA? WKU has been fighting a strong TEXAS BIAS by leadership and Texas schools since we left the SBC. I would fully expect the next add to be Missouri St. or to come from TEXAS. There are already five of the nine east of the Mississippi. We have fought (and lost) this battle for years. Tarleton St. and others were certainly not our idea.

That is one of the reasons we tried and came within an inch of going to the MAC.

AND if we had received that invite-- EKU would have had a great chance at getting in to CUSA.

Do you really think we would have turned down the MAC just to keep you out of CUSA? Come on.

Take your frustrations out on MT or the SBC(who also turned us down)--- if EITHER of those had happened you are probably in CUSA right now.

When/IF we ever leave C-USA you are MORE than welcome to our slot and--- have fun on all those trips to Texas.

You still have not gotten my point. And, NO I don't think western would have turned down an invite to the MAC, never even hinted that, you are taking this out of context. Personally, IF and I said IF , we had a choice for me it would be the Sun Belt, only because of the footprint and several of our old foes are there. And yes, I am old, and remember when we played them all, at EKU and their campus, was there may times. You can deny it all you want, playing teams you have a history with, where students may know each other and see each other when home, makes for rival games and more butts in the stands. Thus, your point about Texas teams and mine also. You ask "what I know about C-USA", probably no more than any western fan knows about our ability to make a move to FBS. Just another example, above Carl Smith suggests TN ST...sheww, a hot mess, well they do have a great band.
Happy Thanksgiving from one Kentuckian to another!

(11-22-2021 11:42 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Add Kennesaw State, Tennessee State, & NC A&T.

East: Liberty, NC A&T, KSU, FIU, WKU, MTSU

West: NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, La Tech, TSU, JSU

Who wants Tennessee ******* State in CUSA? That would be just as bad of an add as SHSU or EKU! lol!

I believe CUSA needs a second team in Louisiana and should add McNeese State. The newspaper in Lake Charles has mentioned this as a possibility and I am wondering how much interest there is on CUSA’s end.

(11-23-2021 12:34 AM)sunamiwave Wrote:  I believe CUSA needs a second team in Louisiana and should add McNeese State. The newspaper in Lake Charles has mentioned this as a possibility and I am wondering how much interest there is on CUSA’s end.

How is this "need" determined?

(11-22-2021 07:45 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  .... The league's next media deal isn't expected to be very lucrative...

If that's the case, then CUSA is getting totally ripped off, robbed, taken to the cleaners.....

All the other G5 conferences are getting at least $2 million/yr per team. This should be the minimum that the CUSA gets.

What the conference needs to do is to refuse any deal that pays them less than $2 M per team.

If nobody is willing to pay that much, then the CUSA should set up its own network.

BYU has its own network. Texas has its own network. If a single university can have a network, a 9-university conference sure as hell can.

(11-23-2021 01:03 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 07:45 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  .... The league's next media deal isn't expected to be very lucrative...

If that's the case, then CUSA is getting totally ripped off, robbed, taken to the cleaners.....

All the other G5 conferences are getting at least $2 million/yr per team. This should be the minimum that the CUSA gets.

What the conference needs to do is to refuse any deal that pays them less than $2 M per team.

If nobody is willing to pay that much, then the CUSA should set up its own network.

BYU has its own network. Texas has its own network. If a single university can have a network, a 9-university conference sure as hell can.

This post made me spit out my coffee in uncontrollable laughter. Each CUSA team makes about $500,000 per year on the current media deal. This is before the mass exodus of schools to the AAC and the Sunbelt. The new CUSA will be lucky to get a McDonald’s voucher for a Big Mac as payment for its next media deal. Instead you think the new CUSA should get a huge, fat raise after being raided by the AAC and the Sunbelt or else they are being “ripped off, robbed, taken to the cleaners?” LMFAO!! I can’t stop laughing. You should be a comedian.

(11-22-2021 10:09 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  Pathetic…western fans dancing around the answer…there’s no mystery school out there that you may suddenly discover that you’re going to talk into moving up to AVOID EKU.
I can guarantee we are ready, done our homework, have the leadership in place, have plans in place for more work to facilities beyond what’s already been done, and are as ready as, are you kidding me, Tarleton State, along with others some keep pushing, a D2 move up who might be a go at some time in the future and a few others mentioned that you might persuade (maybe you can talk Dixie State into coming on board)…….hell, there’s no reason we are not as ready as JSU, other than they are in the deep southern footprint as a replacement your conference wanted, but that’s it…our basketball is as good or better, our basketball arena is certainly better. Talking about attendance, SH only had just above 7000 against us a few weeks ago on a nice day. I’ve read all these discussions, the pros and cons and there’s no convincing evidence that any school discussed on here, other than North Dakota and Missouri State might be better. UCA…no. On the other hand, if you all want lo be a majority Texas league, that's a horse of a different color, but we played four Texas schools this fall, and that is a long haul from Kentucky much less points further east.
Like it or not, call it like I see it, it is extremely low class and cowardly to take this stance against EKU. Can't imagine the indignation you all would have felt had UK and Louisville fought your move. Maybe you administration has better sense.

Let me try this again. WKU does not have "veto power" to keep EKU out of CUSA. Other voters are La Tech, MT, FIU, and UTEP. How is WKU fighting "your move"?

--you must be invited by a conference vote-it's not YOUR move

--- conference has 5 schools east of Mississippi; only four in west- obvious next pick is from the west due to power votes in Texas

--- WKU has taken no direct "stance" against EKU regarding FBS-- we do not make those choices-- CONFERENCES DO

--- your statements give WKU way too much power and you are blaming WKU for not being chosen--ridiculous

I respect EKU but events and circumstances have put both our schools in our respective situations. Your perceived mistreatment is inaccurate.

Happy Thanksgiving!

(11-23-2021 12:20 AM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 11:42 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Add Kennesaw State, Tennessee State, & NC A&T.

East: Liberty, NC A&T, KSU, FIU, WKU, MTSU

West: NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, La Tech, TSU, JSU

Who wants Tennessee ******* State in CUSA? That would be just as bad of an add as SHSU or EKU! lol!

No that would be worse. CUSA already has a TN school. TN population is not big enough to add two schools. Tennessee State sucks in the FCS. bad add just as bad of a add as Uconn and Umass

(11-23-2021 02:27 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 10:09 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  Pathetic…western fans dancing around the answer…there’s no mystery school out there that you may suddenly discover that you’re going to talk into moving up to AVOID EKU.
I can guarantee we are ready, done our homework, have the leadership in place, have plans in place for more work to facilities beyond what’s already been done, and are as ready as, are you kidding me, Tarleton State, along with others some keep pushing, a D2 move up who might be a go at some time in the future and a few others mentioned that you might persuade (maybe you can talk Dixie State into coming on board)…….hell, there’s no reason we are not as ready as JSU, other than they are in the deep southern footprint as a replacement your conference wanted, but that’s it…our basketball is as good or better, our basketball arena is certainly better. Talking about attendance, SH only had just above 7000 against us a few weeks ago on a nice day. I’ve read all these discussions, the pros and cons and there’s no convincing evidence that any school discussed on here, other than North Dakota and Missouri State might be better. UCA…no. On the other hand, if you all want lo be a majority Texas league, that's a horse of a different color, but we played four Texas schools this fall, and that is a long haul from Kentucky much less points further east.
Like it or not, call it like I see it, it is extremely low class and cowardly to take this stance against EKU. Can't imagine the indignation you all would have felt had UK and Louisville fought your move. Maybe you administration has better sense.

Let me try this again. WKU does not have "veto power" to keep EKU out of CUSA. Other voters are La Tech, MT, FIU, and UTEP. How is WKU fighting "your move"?

--you must be invited by a conference vote-it's not YOUR move

--- conference has 5 schools east of Mississippi; only four in west- obvious next pick is from the west due to power votes in Texas

--- WKU has taken no direct "stance" against EKU regarding FBS-- we do not make those choices-- CONFERENCES DO

--- your statements give WKU way too much power and you are blaming WKU for not being chosen--ridiculous

I respect EKU but events and circumstances have put both our schools in our respective situations. Your perceived mistreatment is inaccurate.

Happy Thanksgiving!

I understand everything you have said, evidently you did not understand what I had to say, so goes a message board. First of all, of course I KNOW you "have to invited", otherwise we would have been in the Sun Belt 4-5 years ago. This began because of the names thrown around, many who have not even expressed an interest in moving up. Surely you cant deny the negativity regarding EKU on here and other boards...there's even mention of this on the ASUN Board several days ago. How many times has it been said, "when WKU leaves EKU will get in". Has been discussed ad nauseam, that the WHY's, including the expressed view of one WKU fan that WKU not wanting another FBS team in our small state. I hope that you are correct the WKU would not keep us out, would not work against it. Perhaps my impression is wrong, I hope so. But, you misunderstood my first message, as it had to do with what had been written/not written on here in a discussion regarding candidates who can/would move up, including the perfect mystery candidate that might suddenly appear. I don't think WKU kept us out this time, as decisions were made while you all were consumed for a MAC invite. (BTW, I previously said, I know message board warriors don't make these decisions).
We will see you on the hard wood. I would feel better about our chances in BG if we still had Wendall Green, Jr. Unfortunately, he is now at Auburn burning up the buckets. We have only lost one game and that was a 1 point loss to JSU, after leading by 10 twice in the game. Total lack of control in the last 3 minutes of the game lost this one. More difficult games coming up, including West Virginia U this weekend.

(11-23-2021 01:20 AM)sunamiwave Wrote:  

(11-23-2021 01:03 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 07:45 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  .... The league's next media deal isn't expected to be very lucrative...

If that's the case, then CUSA is getting totally ripped off, robbed, taken to the cleaners.....

All the other G5 conferences are getting at least $2 million/yr per team. This should be the minimum that the CUSA gets.

What the conference needs to do is to refuse any deal that pays them less than $2 M per team.

If nobody is willing to pay that much, then the CUSA should set up its own network.

BYU has its own network. Texas has its own network. If a single university can have a network, a 9-university conference sure as hell can.

This post made me spit out my coffee in uncontrollable laughter. Each CUSA team makes about $500,000 per year on the current media deal. This is before the mass exodus of schools to the AAC and the Sunbelt. The new CUSA will be lucky to get a McDonald’s voucher for a Big Mac as payment for its next media deal. Instead you think the new CUSA should get a huge, fat raise after being raided by the AAC and the Sunbelt or else they are being “ripped off, robbed, taken to the cleaners?” LMFAO!! I can’t stop laughing. You should be a comedian.

If they are paying AAC and SBC for games no one watches why wouldnt they pay CUSA for games no one watches. The SBC nor the AAC is gaining or losing any big draws on TV. CUSA ratings would be in the same ball park. Heck a JSU game against a G5 would probably be in the top 10 G5 games watched this year not against a P5 school. JSU is FCS so it shows the drawing power of G5 schools.

(11-23-2021 09:23 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-23-2021 01:20 AM)sunamiwave Wrote:  

(11-23-2021 01:03 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 07:45 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  .... The league's next media deal isn't expected to be very lucrative...

If that's the case, then CUSA is getting totally ripped off, robbed, taken to the cleaners.....

All the other G5 conferences are getting at least $2 million/yr per team. This should be the minimum that the CUSA gets.

What the conference needs to do is to refuse any deal that pays them less than $2 M per team.

If nobody is willing to pay that much, then the CUSA should set up its own network.

BYU has its own network. Texas has its own network. If a single university can have a network, a 9-university conference sure as hell can.

This post made me spit out my coffee in uncontrollable laughter. Each CUSA team makes about $500,000 per year on the current media deal. This is before the mass exodus of schools to the AAC and the Sunbelt. The new CUSA will be lucky to get a McDonald’s voucher for a Big Mac as payment for its next media deal. Instead you think the new CUSA should get a huge, fat raise after being raided by the AAC and the Sunbelt or else they are being “ripped off, robbed, taken to the cleaners?” LMFAO!! I can’t stop laughing. You should be a comedian.

If they are paying AAC and SBC for games no one watches why wouldnt they pay CUSA for games no one watches. The SBC nor the AAC is gaining or losing any big draws on TV. CUSA ratings would be in the same ball park. Heck a JSU game against a G5 would probably be in the top 10 G5 games watched this year not against a P5 school. JSU is FCS so it shows the drawing power of G5 schools.

What will help JSU out if Kennesaw State join C-USA 3-5 years from now

(11-23-2021 12:37 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-23-2021 12:34 AM)sunamiwave Wrote:  I believe CUSA needs a second team in Louisiana and should add McNeese State. The newspaper in Lake Charles has mentioned this as a possibility and I am wondering how much interest there is on CUSA’s end.

How is this "need" determined?

You are talking to a troll ya know.

NDSU is the only brand that would move the needle for CUSAs new media deal. Grographically makes no sense. But they do have a brand that maybe might help a new media deal. Not a big market though.