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RE: VaTech game discussion
Huge early season game for both teams, but especially the Tigers. People will get a good gauge on what we really have to offer this season. Like most years, we don't get many opportunities to get big quality wins, so if we drop it the noise will be the Tigers are "all hype." On the other hand, winning the game will make a big statement.
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RE: VaTech game discussion
(11-23-2021 10:09 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 08:35 AM)TigerBall Wrote:  
(11-22-2021 10:44 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-22-2021 07:04 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  Va Tech is very good…Alleyne is tough and Mutts is a skywalker. If he gets loose on a break, you will be impressed. Tigers need to put that relentless pressure on their guards…

So they got good once Nolley left?

I remember looking over his stats there and he shot a lot. I brought that up and was told he was all they had.

There is a lot of player development/turnover in 3 years. What they were then is not representative of what they are now.

Thanks for the explanation! I've been watching college sports since the 60's and had no idea that was even possible.

Well when you reference a team from 3 years ago and compare them with their current team it brings into question your ability to discern the difference.
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RE: VaTech game discussion
(11-23-2021 10:33 AM)Hoots Wrote:  Huge early season game for both teams, but especially the Tigers. People will get a good gauge on what we really have to offer this season. Like most years, we don't get many opportunities to get big quality wins, so if we drop it the noise will be the Tigers are "all hype." On the other hand, winning the game will make a big statement.

I don’t think Va Tech will be considered a statement win for Memphis in all honesty Memphis should win easily I think the only reason they are favored is because of the Tigers turnover problems.
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RE: VaTech game discussion
(11-23-2021 12:24 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 10:33 AM)Hoots Wrote:  Huge early season game for both teams, but especially the Tigers. People will get a good gauge on what we really have to offer this season. Like most years, we don't get many opportunities to get big quality wins, so if we drop it the noise will be the Tigers are "all hype." On the other hand, winning the game will make a big statement.

I don’t think Va Tech will be considered a statement win for Memphis in all honesty Memphis should win easily I think the only reason they are favored is because of the Tigers turnover problems.


VATech is getting votes for the top 25, it's a neutral court, and they are a VERY experienced team. it may not be a signature win (if we win) but should be quad 1, and will go a long way in seeding, and will help legitimize the #9 ranking
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RE: VaTech game discussion
(11-23-2021 11:09 AM)TigerBall Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 10:09 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 08:35 AM)TigerBall Wrote:  
(11-22-2021 10:44 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-22-2021 07:04 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  Va Tech is very good…Alleyne is tough and Mutts is a skywalker. If he gets loose on a break, you will be impressed. Tigers need to put that relentless pressure on their guards…

So they got good once Nolley left?

I remember looking over his stats there and he shot a lot. I brought that up and was told he was all they had.

There is a lot of player development/turnover in 3 years. What they were then is not representative of what they are now.

Thanks for the explanation! I've been watching college sports since the 60's and had no idea that was even possible.

Well when you reference a team from 3 years ago and compare them with their current team it brings into question your ability to discern the difference.

That was 2 years ago. Math obviously is not your strong suit.

And my sarcasm obviously went right over your fat head.
11-23-2021 01:26 PM
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RE: VaTech game discussion
(11-23-2021 01:26 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 11:09 AM)TigerBall Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 10:09 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 08:35 AM)TigerBall Wrote:  
(11-22-2021 10:44 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  So they got good once Nolley left?

I remember looking over his stats there and he shot a lot. I brought that up and was told he was all they had.

There is a lot of player development/turnover in 3 years. What they were then is not representative of what they are now.

Thanks for the explanation! I've been watching college sports since the 60's and had no idea that was even possible.

Well when you reference a team from 3 years ago and compare them with their current team it brings into question your ability to discern the difference.

That was 2 years ago. Math obviously is not your strong suit.

And my sarcasm obviously went right over your fat head.

Hey look it's ok man...you took a shot at a clever post and it missed the mark. Don't back peddle now. Just own it and move forward.
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RE: VaTech game discussion
(11-23-2021 12:24 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 10:33 AM)Hoots Wrote:  Huge early season game for both teams, but especially the Tigers. People will get a good gauge on what we really have to offer this season. Like most years, we don't get many opportunities to get big quality wins, so if we drop it the noise will be the Tigers are "all hype." On the other hand, winning the game will make a big statement.

I don’t think Va Tech will be considered a statement win for Memphis in all honesty Memphis should win easily I think the only reason they are favored is because of the Tigers turnover problems.

Who is favored?
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RE: VaTech game discussion
(11-23-2021 02:46 PM)TigerBall Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:26 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 11:09 AM)TigerBall Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 10:09 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 08:35 AM)TigerBall Wrote:  There is a lot of player development/turnover in 3 years. What they were then is not representative of what they are now.

Thanks for the explanation! I've been watching college sports since the 60's and had no idea that was even possible.

Well when you reference a team from 3 years ago and compare them with their current team it brings into question your ability to discern the difference.

That was 2 years ago. Math obviously is not your strong suit.

And my sarcasm obviously went right over your fat head.

Hey look it's ok man...you took a shot at a clever post and it missed the mark. Don't back peddle now. Just own it and move forward.

So facts and the truth don't matter to you?

You must be one of them.
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Winning this game also adds one more Quad 1 opportunity most likely in Xavier. Iowa State would likely be a Quad 3 by the time the season is over
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(11-23-2021 12:24 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 10:33 AM)Hoots Wrote:  Huge early season game for both teams, but especially the Tigers. People will get a good gauge on what we really have to offer this season. Like most years, we don't get many opportunities to get big quality wins, so if we drop it the noise will be the Tigers are "all hype." On the other hand, winning the game will make a big statement.

I don’t think Va Tech will be considered a statement win for Memphis in all honesty Memphis should win easily I think the only reason they are favored is because of the Tigers turnover problems.

They are not favored, there is no line set yet. Some of you should be ashamed.
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1.5...

Guess Memphis needs to prove it.
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Almost exact same scenario as when we played NC State 2 years ago. We were around #9 or 10... NC State was unranked, and we barely favored on a neutral court
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(11-23-2021 07:21 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  Almost exact same scenario as when we played NC State 2 years ago. We were around #9 or 10... NC State was unranked, and we barely favored on a neutral court

Let's hope this one has the same outcome.
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(11-23-2021 07:03 PM)OldFan Wrote:  Line: Memphis -1.5, OU 140.5. https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaab-game...021/115284

I use action as well as several other sites. It’s interesting that action - a relative newcomer (but very interesting app/site) has an early line. Other sharp sites I trust have no line yet.

In either case the tigers are indeed favored on a neutral court much to the chagrin of some of our resident penny haters.

I won’t disagree that this is a good test but some of you making things up like “tigers aren’t favored” and then running with it to fit your narrative is pretty shameful.

Be a fan.
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Do other college sports message boards have fans that make up narratives about non-existent lines because they don’t like the coach?

This is next level stuff folks. Impressive.
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(11-23-2021 09:55 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  Do other college sports message boards have fans that make up narratives about non-existent lines because they don’t like the coach?

This is next level stuff folks. Impressive.

Yes, but we have a small group of especially negative but creative posters.
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To anyone who is ass hurt over me saying I had “heard” early rumors the line may have us under dog, it was not meant to push a false narrative. It was merely me wanting to talk about Vegas’s perception of our team and how much they believe in our ranking. Hell I wish we were underdog so our tigers could have that much more reason to be pissed off. 1.5 is very close to being an underdog so hopefully they come out with their nuts screwed on tight!
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(11-23-2021 10:16 PM)PennyWise Wrote:  To anyone who is ass hurt over me saying I had “heard” early rumors the line may have us under dog, it was not meant to push a false narrative. It was merely me wanting to talk about Vegas’s perception of our team and how much they believe in our ranking. Hell I wish we were underdog so our tigers could have that much more reason to be pissed off. 1.5 is very close to being an underdog so hopefully they come out with their nuts screwed on tight!

No one is ass hurt. You lied and others with an agenda ran with it as a narrative.

Facts are facts. There was no line and you made one up. I’d be really curious as to who you “heard” it from, there are two companies in Vegas that set lines and several intermediate companies that help books with analytics to make sure they are covered on both sides of the bets.

There was no line and unless you have friends who work at the two major companies who have major NDAs and legal repercussions worse than the SEC about leaking lines, you are completely full of it.
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(11-24-2021 12:03 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 10:16 PM)PennyWise Wrote:  To anyone who is ass hurt over me saying I had “heard” early rumors the line may have us under dog, it was not meant to push a false narrative. It was merely me wanting to talk about Vegas’s perception of our team and how much they believe in our ranking. Hell I wish we were underdog so our tigers could have that much more reason to be pissed off. 1.5 is very close to being an underdog so hopefully they come out with their nuts screwed on tight!

No one is ass hurt. You lied and others with an agenda ran with it as a narrative.

Facts are facts. There was no line and you made one up. I’d be really curious as to who you “heard” it from, there are two companies in Vegas that set lines and several intermediate companies that help books with analytics to make sure they are covered on both sides of the bets.

There was no line and unless you have friends who work at the two major companies who have major NDAs and legal repercussions worse than the SEC about leaking lines, you are completely full of it.

It's called line speculation. I never claimed I knew a real oddsmaker or companies that set lines in Vegas (where the hell ya come with that beats me???). Anyone that has been around the game follows the tigers can usually take an educated guess at what the lines on our games will be within probably 3-4 points. The rumors or speculation of the line for this game I heard was just from friends and fellow tiger fans, so I came hear to see what fans here think the line may be. I didn't know it would upset you and start calling me a liar....obviously it did and your ass hurt. Go Tigers!
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