And let the search begin

Most of us are not surprised. Except for some parents who objected to us having discussions of a new coach, most of us saw the writing on the wall. I don't think any of us are happy that Dorrel got fired. What we realized is that he had a tremendous career at an already successful D2 program, but couldn't replicate it on the D1 at ACU. Most of us ACU alumni recognize the unique challenges. We still expect success on the football field. Part of that challenge is getting a quality coach and recruiter here at what we can pay him. Unless we had a donor really step up, any candidate will have to really want to be here for something more than money. Dorrel was a good guy. He had lots of players that were devoted to him. Still, he struggled with game management, making adjustments, and getting the recruits that would elevate our play.

Y'all can hire Doug Martin! He will be looking for a job after this Saturday.

(11-21-2021 11:41 AM)NeptunianEmp Wrote:  Y'all can hire Doug Martin! He will be looking for a job after this Saturday.

He has a bowl win!

I think a lot of people will prefer a person with both ACU and Texas ties. My question is if we, regardless, are we going to invest in what it will take to get the right coach and the right players. We have invested heavily in facilities and some into salary, but are we ready to invest more; NIL deals?? Who knows, our new VP of Athletics will tell a lot once he starts.

Any interest in Art Briles? I know the baggage he Carrie’s and would probably be a much harder sell at a Christian university than non church affiliated school.

(11-21-2021 07:28 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Any interest in Art Briles? I know the baggage he Carrie’s and would probably be a much harder sell at a Christian university than non church affiliated school.

Considering his past ties to another religious institution (Baylor), perhaps that's not as far fetched as you might think. Granted, he got in trouble (that's putting it mildly), but he did win a whole bunch there.

Both Art and Kendall have been mentioned in our fan chats so far, but I don't think we want the baggage that comes with the Briles name period. All I know is that a firm is heading the search with a goal of naming a new coach by the first of the year.

I'm sure David Bailiff will at least get a phone call.

(11-21-2021 08:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I'm sure David Bailiff will at least get a phone call.

Bailiff would be an interesting candidate. He has a long history at multiple levels across Texas. How many more years of coaching does he have in him? Does he want to return to d1? I honestly don't know how much of a look he would get.

Have y'all thought about the head coach at Harding univ. He has done well. Do you want to try to get a coach who is a member of the church or does that matter?

Former Tarleton OC and current UTPB HC Justin Carrigan is a highly regarded up & comer.

Like Art Briles, Chad Morris was HC at Stephenville before jumping up to the college ranks.

(11-21-2021 08:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I'm sure David Bailiff will at least get a phone call.

Bailiff is terrible. ACU missed the boat should have hired Carthel instead of Dorrel. Carthel had a great run at TAMC winning a national title and already has SFA becoming a force. 8-3 and headed to playoffs. He is a talented coach. Bailiff took over a loaded TAMC from Carthel and couldn't even make the playoffs in D2 this year and sat the team last year during Covid.

Of course maybe you suggested it so ACU can be horrible for the next few years until they figure out the obvious.

Bailiff would be a great fit at NMSU where there are no to low expectations on both sides.

(11-21-2021 07:28 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Any interest in Art Briles? I know the baggage he Carrie’s and would probably be a much harder sell at a Christian university than non church affiliated school.

No one in their right mind is ever going to hire Art Briles. He knowingly brought a sexual predator onto Baylor campus where he raped one or more coeds. Multiple players got felonies. He had assistant coaches run interference to cover for the players. These are facts not a smear on him. You can't turn a blind eye just to get a W. Only an IDIOT AD of would hire him as a HC.

(11-22-2021 12:45 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(11-21-2021 08:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I'm sure David Bailiff will at least get a phone call.

Bailiff is terrible. ACU missed the boat should have hired Carthel instead of Dorrel. Carthel had a great run at TAMC winning a national title and already has SFA becoming a force. 8-3 and headed to playoffs. He is a talented coach. Bailiff took over a loaded TAMC from Carthel and couldn't even make the playoffs in D2 this year and sat the team last year during Covid.

Of course maybe you suggested it so ACU can be horrible for the next few years until they figure out the obvious.

Bailiff would be a great fit at NMSU where there are no to low expectations on both sides.

Negative. Colby was on the staff that led to ACU vacating many wins and being put on NCAA probation.

What about Jimmy Lake who got fired from UW?

D1...

(11-22-2021 12:45 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(11-21-2021 08:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I'm sure David Bailiff will at least get a phone call.

Bailiff is terrible. ACU missed the boat should have hired Carthel instead of Dorrel. Carthel had a great run at TAMC winning a national title and already has SFA becoming a force. 8-3 and headed to playoffs. He is a talented coach. Bailiff took over a loaded TAMC from Carthel and couldn't even make the playoffs in D2 this year and sat the team last year during Covid.

Of course maybe you suggested it so ACU can be horrible for the next few years until they figure out the obvious.

Bailiff would be a great fit at NMSU where there are no to low expectations on both sides.

He took TEXAS STATE (formerly Southwest Texas State), arguably the WORST program to ever play in the Lone Star and Southland Conferences, to the FCS Semi-Finals in 2005. Went on to have a ton of success at Rice. He and Commerce knocked off #2 Tarleton in the 2019 playoffs. Bailiff's a solid coach with deep Texas roots.

(11-22-2021 09:26 AM)WestTexas409 Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 12:45 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(11-21-2021 08:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I'm sure David Bailiff will at least get a phone call.

Bailiff is terrible. ACU missed the boat should have hired Carthel instead of Dorrel. Carthel had a great run at TAMC winning a national title and already has SFA becoming a force. 8-3 and headed to playoffs. He is a talented coach. Bailiff took over a loaded TAMC from Carthel and couldn't even make the playoffs in D2 this year and sat the team last year during Covid.

Of course maybe you suggested it so ACU can be horrible for the next few years until they figure out the obvious.

Bailiff would be a great fit at NMSU where there are no to low expectations on both sides.

Negative. Colby was on the staff that led to ACU vacating many wins and being put on NCAA probation.

You mean WT. He has never been at ACU. In retrospect what happened at WT was a joke compared to what others are doing and have done. Don, not Colby should’ve got a slap on the hand and a warning. It wasn’t anything that it was made out to be.

(11-22-2021 01:37 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-22-2021 12:45 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(11-21-2021 08:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I'm sure David Bailiff will at least get a phone call.

Bailiff is terrible. ACU missed the boat should have hired Carthel instead of Dorrel. Carthel had a great run at TAMC winning a national title and already has SFA becoming a force. 8-3 and headed to playoffs. He is a talented coach. Bailiff took over a loaded TAMC from Carthel and couldn't even make the playoffs in D2 this year and sat the team last year during Covid.

Of course maybe you suggested it so ACU can be horrible for the next few years until they figure out the obvious.

Bailiff would be a great fit at NMSU where there are no to low expectations on both sides.

He took TEXAS STATE (formerly Southwest Texas State), arguably the WORST program to ever play in the Lone Star and Southland Conferences, to the FCS Semi-Finals in 2005. Went on to have a ton of success at Rice. He and Commerce knocked off #2 Tarleton in the 2019 playoffs. Bailiff's a solid coach with deep Texas roots.

What is your definition of success for Rice? You realize they fired him for losing. Also TAMC beat Tarleton who was missing key components that had got them to the 2 seed. He won with Carthel players. Now they are not even making the playoffs. Yup, give Commerce two more years with Bailiff and you’ll see losing seasons.