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Rice Women at NCAA Cross Country Championships
This Saturday, November 20, the Rice women will be competing with 30 other teams at the NCAA Cross Country Championships in Tallahassee, Florida. The 6K (3.72823 miles) race, at Apalachee Regional Park Cross Country Course, will begin at 9:20 a.m., CST. There will be LIVE coverage on ESPNU, beginning at 9:00 a.m.

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Rice will be lightly regarded, as their only race of note was their runners-up finish at the South Central Regional. I would expect that the "experts" would rank them as 31st coming into the championships. However, two factors are in favor of Rice's finishing ahead of 2-3 teams: (1) they are peaking right now; (2) having Grace finish very high (with very few points) gives them a huge advantage over other teams.

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1 NC STATE Southeast Region (1) ACC (1)
2 NEW MEXICO Mountain Region (1) Mountain West (1)
3 COLORADO Mountain Region (2) Pac-12 (1)
4 BYU Mountain Region (3) WCC (1)
5 MINNESOTA Midwest Region (1) Big Ten (1)
6 OKLAHOMA STATE Midwest Region (2) Big 12 (1)
7 ARKANSAS South Central Region (1) SEC (1)
8 NORTH CAROLINA Southeast Region (2) ACC (2)
9 OLE MISS South Region (1) SEC (2)
10 NOTRE DAME Great Lakes Region (1) ACC (5)
10 IOWA STATE Midwest Region (3) Big 12 (2)
12 FLORIDA STATE South Region (2) ACC (3)
13 WISCONSIN Great Lakes Region (2) Big Ten (2)
14 UTAH Mountain Region (5) Pac-12 (2)
15 ALABAMA South Region (3) SEC (3)
16 STANFORD West Region (1) Pac-12 (5)
17 MICHIGAN Great Lakes Region (3) Big Ten (4)
18 COLORADO STATE Mountain Region (4) Mountain West (3)
19 MICHIGAN STATE Great Lakes Region (4) Big Ten (3)
20 SYRACUSE Northeast Region (2) ACC (4)
21 NORTHERN ARIZONA Mountain Region (6) Big Sky (1)
22 GEORGETOWN Mid-Atlantic Region (1) Big East (1)
23 WASHINGTON West Region (2) Pac-12 (4)
24 HARVARD Northeast Region (1) Ivy League (1)
25 PROVIDENCE Northeast Region (3) Big East (5)
26 OREGON West Region (3) Pac-12 (3)
27 UTAH STATE Mountain Region (7) Mountain West (2)
28 WEST VIRGINIA Mid-Atlantic Region (2) Big 12 (3)
29 KENTUCKY Southeast Region (3) SEC (4)
30 BUTLER Great Lakes Region (5) Big East (2)

Also Receiving Votes: Villanova 26, Weber State 7, Rice 5, Furman 4, Gonzaga 3, Utah Valley 2, Connecticut 1
11-18-2021 06:34 PM
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RE: Rice Women at NCAA Cross Country Championships
How many of the top 30 teams (or others receiving votes) are competing at the NCAA's (I know there are 31 teams altogether, but that's 37 teams ranked or receiving votes).
11-18-2021 06:40 PM
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Women's Individual race - I would expect that the defending champion, Mercy Chelangat of Alabama, would be the overwhelming favorite to defend her championship from March's NCAA Championships. Here are the runners who I think will be among the top finishers:

Mercy Chelangat (Alabama)
Whittni Orton (BYU)
Ceili McCabe (West Virginia)
Abby Nichols (Colorado)
Kelsey Chmiel (North Carolina State)
Taylor Roe (Oklahoma State)
Taryn O'Neill (Northern Arizona) *
Joyce Kimeli (Auburn)
Grace Forbes (Rice)
Amanda Vestri (Syracuse)

* O'Neill is the only runner to finish ahead of Grace all year. (She has not raced against the others on this list)
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(11-18-2021 06:40 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  How many of the top 30 teams (or others receiving votes) are competing at the NCAA's (I know there are 31 teams altogether, but that's 37 teams ranked or receiving votes).

Kentucky is not there. Villanova and Rice are. That makes up the 31 teams.
11-18-2021 06:56 PM
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I hope that someone such as dragon or FBO or Almaden can give updates here on Saturday. I will be running all over the course and won't have time to post anything. I am still torn as to whether to follow Grace or our other outstanding runners.

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Rice (bib numbers)

390 Haley Allen..................................... Fr. *
391 Alyssa Balandran.............................. Jr. *
392 Grace Forbes...................................So. *
393 Maddie Forbes................................. Jr.
394 Taigen Hunter-Galvan....................So. *
395 Ashley Messineo............................... Jr.
396 Katlyn Schmeltzer........................... Fr.
397 Ellie Schweiker................................ Fr.
398 Kayla Shelkey.................................. Fr.
399 Rachel Shoemaker...........................So. *
400 Lourdes Vivas de Lorenzi.................Sr. *
401 Caitlin Wosika................................So. *

* Expected to race
11-18-2021 07:09 PM
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(11-18-2021 07:09 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  I hope that someone such as dragon or FBO or Almaden can give updates here on Saturday.

. . . .

* Expected to race

I hope to be able to contribute. Looking forward to your on-course observations and insights whenever they come.

Is there a limit to the number of runners that a qualified team can enter in this race?
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(11-18-2021 09:29 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(11-18-2021 07:09 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  I hope that someone such as dragon or FBO or Almaden can give updates here on Saturday.

. . . .

* Expected to race

I hope to be able to contribute. Looking forward to your on-course observations and insights whenever they come.

Is there a limit to the number of runners that a qualified team can enter in this race?

7 maximum per team, but only the top 5 score. The other 2 can "displace" top 5 runners from other schools, thus affecting the points. Example:

1. Runner #1 Team A - 1 point
18. Runner #5 Team A - 18 points
19. Runner #4 Team B - 19 points
20. Runner #6 Team A - 20 points
21. Runner #5 Team B - 21 points

So, although Runner #5 Team B was the 20th "counted" runner, he gets 21 points because he finished behind Team A's 6th runner.

Note: a team can start with as few as 5 runners, but must finish with at least 5 to be counted in the team standings. That team just would not be able to "displace" any runners from other teams.

Also, there are 38 unattached runners in the field - they CANNOT displace.

1. Runner #1 Team A - 1 point
18. Runner #5 Team A - 18 points
19. Runner #4 Team B - 19 points
20. Runner #6 Team A - 20 points
21. UNATTACHED RUNNER - [no points]
22. Runner #5 Team B - 21 points
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Right now it's 51° with about 10 mph wind. Not a cloud in the sky. Great for runners - a little brisk in the shade for spectators. There is limited access to watch the race because of so many trees.
11-20-2021 09:32 AM
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What are the unattached runners competing for? Individual standings? Olympics/pro scouting?
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(11-20-2021 09:55 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  What are the unattached runners competing for? Individual standings? Olympics/pro scouting?

Because it’s there?
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ESPNU says its coverage of today's races will be commercial-free. :-)
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Grace is shown as one of the Top 8 who could contend for the individual title. "She's having a phenonmenal year."
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Grace is up near the front coming down the starting hill.
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(11-20-2021 09:55 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  What are the unattached runners competing for? Individual standings? Olympics/pro scouting?

Why not? You have the team race, but you also have an individual race so all of the unattached runners are obviously hoping for that trophy, or all-American status. It's no different from numerous Olympic events where team titles and medals are given out, but you also have individual medals awarded.

Go Grace!
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The Rice graphic on the ESPNU ticker is disappointing. A blue R on a blue background. Hard to pick out.
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8th as they turn into the woods.
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"140 runners 4 seconds apart."
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Forbes 23rd at the 2K mark, two seconds off the lead

moves up to 15th at 3K in 9:54.8
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Grace is 10th (for team standing purposes) after 1170 yards, with the next Rice runner (Wosika) in 200th. Rice is 30th as a team after that 1170 yard plateau.

But really, we're just seeing how Forbes does. The team will probably finish near the back of the teams running, but that's fine.
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23rd at 2k, but only 2.0 s off the lead
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