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RE: #5?
CBS 25 and 1 updated daily...

Looks like we may face two teams next week that are in the Top 25 and 1 after last night

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...3-0-start/
11-19-2021 01:38 PM
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(11-18-2021 05:18 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-18-2021 11:51 AM)micman Wrote:  I'm surprised he ranked us that high. His formula normally depends solely on Ken Pom and recruiting rankings. If Ken Pom has us around 15th, and he highly values Bates, but doesn't value Jalen Duren, I'm very surprised he doesn't have us around 10th (because he at best ranks Bates 3rd behind Banchero and Holmgren).

That said, I've heard him place value on KenPom's offensive and defensive efficiency scores for Final Four teams. I think I read somewhere in here that we are top 15 in offensive efficiency and top 5 in defensive efficiency. If so, he may have used that as part of his ranking metrics.

Or maybe he knows that he was wrong about Duren, but won't admit it.

Well the last sentence reminds me of someone else...but enough trolling.
We are #41 on KenPom offensive efficiency. Not the teen's, but better than other recent years. But KP won't be worth much for another few weeks until teams get connected and his preseason bias is removed.
I think GP is pretty consistent in his early polls. He looks at prior year performance, who is returning, and who are you adding. He's felt all along that with how we finished, the experience we have returning, and adding 2 lotto frosh, that we should be top-10.

exactly. KenPom is good but not great especially this early. There just isn't enough data to heavily weigh on KenPom this early in the season. It becomes better as the season progresses - both for individual teams and the increasing amount of data gleaned when two (kenpom) teams play one another.
11-19-2021 01:59 PM
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