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Scoring Per Game
29 Memphis 89.7

Rebounds
69 Memphis 42.0

Field Goals
11 Memphis .548

Free Throws
301 Memphis .626

3-Points
20 Memphis .452

Assists
82 Memphis 16.3

Steals
81 Memphis 9.33

Blocks
1 Memphis 12.67
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The blocks, holy smoke.
The FT percentage, SMH.
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What about TO's?
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(11-17-2021 03:11 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  What about TO's?

Yep since that’s all anyone cares about
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(11-17-2021 03:19 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 03:11 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  What about TO's?

Yep since that’s all anyone cares about

338 - turnovers per game
317 - turnovers per possession
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ESPN has us tied for 348th in TO's per game
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RE: Men's BB Team Stats
Looking over some of ESPN's stats and rankings.
To show you how screwed up their BPI is...
3 of their top 5 ranked BPI teams have a loss already...
including their top 2 teams of Villanova and Illinois.
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(11-17-2021 03:38 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  ESPN has us tied for 348th in TO's per game

I use Team Rankings. They like Kenpom don't include stats from non-D1 games. ESPN includes all games.
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(11-17-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Looking over some of ESPN's stats and rankings.
To show you how screwed up their BPI is...
3 of their top 5 ranked BPI teams have a loss already...
including their top 2 teams of Villanova and Illinois.

Yeah, Kenpom puts Michigan at 3 for losing and dropped us to 15 for winning. Same BS every single year. How does being in the P5 in football guarantee you a better starting spot in an objective, math-based, preseason ranking? Only 6 P5 teams are ranked below 100, lowest Washington at 134.
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RE: Men's BB Team Stats
(11-17-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Looking over some of ESPN's stats and rankings.
To show you how screwed up their BPI is...
3 of their top 5 ranked BPI teams have a loss already...
including their top 2 teams of Villanova and Illinois.

I honestly don't think any of the stats/rankings are all that accurate until conference play starts but it's a good guide.
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(11-17-2021 03:54 PM)mairving Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Looking over some of ESPN's stats and rankings.
To show you how screwed up their BPI is...
3 of their top 5 ranked BPI teams have a loss already...
including their top 2 teams of Villanova and Illinois.

I honestly don't think any of the stats/rankings are all that accurate until conference play starts but it's a good guide.

Beginning of the year...People rankings are probably better then computers.

Not many computers have algorithms that can handled all of the changes that happen year to year with college BBall... Once more and more data comes in they will get better.
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I agree that it's way too early to get excited, and there is definitely some conference bias built in.
My main point is that the ESPN BPI is the worst of all of these.
I've never been impressed with it, and it often has strange results.
Having your #1 and #2 ranked teams sitting there with 2-1 records this early in the year is an absolute joke.
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(11-18-2021 04:17 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I agree that it's way too early to get excited, and there is definitely some conference bias built in.
My main point is that the ESPN BPI is the worst of all of these.
I've never been impressed with it, and it often has strange results.
Having your #1 and #2 ranked teams sitting there with 2-1 records this early in the year is an absolute joke.

How is it a joke? (Ok illinois is a joke) but from a pure comparison standard, Nova losing in OT (factually a tie at regulation) on the road to the #7 team would mean they are better on a neutral court and much better at home than the #7 team.

In all reality, poll wise, if Memphis were to go the the Kennel and lose on a last second shot to the Zags, the pollsters should actually move Memphis UP in the rankings, not down just because Memphis took an L in a particular column.
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(11-17-2021 03:53 PM)cmt Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Looking over some of ESPN's stats and rankings.
To show you how screwed up their BPI is...
3 of their top 5 ranked BPI teams have a loss already...
including their top 2 teams of Villanova and Illinois.

Yeah, Kenpom puts Michigan at 3 for losing and dropped us to 15 for winning. Same BS every single year. How does being in the P5 in football guarantee you a better starting spot in an objective, math-based, preseason ranking? Only 6 P5 teams are ranked below 100, lowest Washington at 134.

Actually KP dropped Michigan 1 spot for losing to a top 30 KP team and Memphis moved up 2 spots after beating STl.

Stl actually moved UP 5 after losing to Memphis.
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(11-17-2021 03:38 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  ESPN has us tied for 348th in TO's per game

While I’m sure it’s still not in our favor and we need to improve it.. people need to stop using per game numbers for most stats. We were listed at the #3 fastest pace of play the other day. More relevant are the per offensive possession numbers to get a truer idea of where we stand. A slow team that has better total turnover numbers does not mean they actually take care of the ball better and vice versa.
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(11-17-2021 02:54 PM)holyterror Wrote:  The blocks, holy smoke.
The FT percentage, SMH.

we'll make them when we need to........or so I'm told.....
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(11-18-2021 04:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(11-18-2021 04:17 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I agree that it's way too early to get excited, and there is definitely some conference bias built in.
My main point is that the ESPN BPI is the worst of all of these.
I've never been impressed with it, and it often has strange results.
Having your #1 and #2 ranked teams sitting there with 2-1 records this early in the year is an absolute joke.

How is it a joke? (Ok illinois is a joke) but from a pure comparison standard, Nova losing in OT (factually a tie at regulation) on the road to the #7 team would mean they are better on a neutral court and much better at home than the #7 team.

In all reality, poll wise, if Memphis were to go the the Kennel and lose on a last second shot to the Zags, the pollsters should actually move Memphis UP in the rankings, not down just because Memphis took an L in a particular column.

It's a joke because there are 80+ undefeated teams in CBB right now, and they have their top 2 teams sitting with a loss.
Meaning both teams, you know, LOST 1 out of their 3 games played.
I get the nuance of moving teams up when taking a "good" loss.
But that's better served when you have a better baseline and more metrics later in the year.
If your process is telling you this early in the season that the top 2 teams have been beaten in one-third of their games played, then it's a broken process.
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(11-18-2021 05:41 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 02:54 PM)holyterror Wrote:  The blocks, holy smoke.
The FT percentage, SMH.

we'll make them when we need to........or so I'm told.....

I doubt it.. Sad with all our talent.

Focus..concentration..
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How many 3 seconds in the lane violations have been called on any team? I haven't seen one called yet and I watch a lot of games. I've seen it violated but not called. Have the rules changed on that call?
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(11-18-2021 04:36 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 03:53 PM)cmt Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Looking over some of ESPN's stats and rankings.
To show you how screwed up their BPI is...
3 of their top 5 ranked BPI teams have a loss already...
including their top 2 teams of Villanova and Illinois.

Yeah, Kenpom puts Michigan at 3 for losing and dropped us to 15 for winning. Same BS every single year. How does being in the P5 in football guarantee you a better starting spot in an objective, math-based, preseason ranking? Only 6 P5 teams are ranked below 100, lowest Washington at 134.

Actually KP dropped Michigan 1 spot for losing to a top 30 KP team and Memphis moved up 2 spots after beating STl.

Stl actually moved UP 5 after losing to Memphis.

Actually the numbers change every day. I posted that yesterday, or did you really think I made the numbers up? People need to stop it.
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