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RE: G5 HCs climb the ladder and then...
(11-17-2021 04:59 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 01:15 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 11:18 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 11:17 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(11-17-2021 11:03 AM)BatesUAB Wrote:  While there might be some truth to your first two sentences, I think there is none in the third.

I think this tweet and its premise overlook the other side of things. Nick Saban coached at a G5 before going to Michigan State. That seemed to work out. I could name other coaches who went from G5 to P5 and turned out alright. Urban Meyer and Brian Kelly. Hugh Freeze was doing pretty well at Ole Miss until the hookers and whatnot. Speaking of Ole Miss, Lane Kiffin seems to be doing okay, although he's had stints at Tennessee and USC, so he's a little different.

I thinking the same thing except my examples were Sagan, Urban, and Mack Brown.

Dang, so you were being serious. I thought you were being sarcastic. Maybe shouldn't be so hard on me and the other "debbie downers" ??

We get tired of reading the posts every five minutes.

Tbh, no one is making you read them.

Thanks, you are always so pleasant and helpful.
11-18-2021 08:56 AM
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(11-17-2021 07:33 PM)Usajags Wrote:  It’s hard to blame any “G5” coach making sub $1mil a year for taking any “P5” job making $3mil a year. Even if it only last 3-4 years, you can always go back to the “G5” level and you have financially changed the direction of your family for the next generation. And that’s taking a job you may know you can’t fix, but it becomes a money grab at that point. Y’all know you would do it too.

The other side of that coin is that a coach gets that shot in the P5 because he worked hard and was fortunate and built a solid winning record. Take a bottom tier job where you go 5-7, 6-6, that record gets diluted. Hold out for a better job and your long term chances are better if you're a good enough coach to make the grade.

Take that $3m job, flush your winning percentage, and you're just another has been P5 guy paddling around the G5 hoping for a contract. It's very hard to get back to that shot at the big time point again from there.
11-18-2021 09:32 PM
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It can also work the other way though. Pass on the payday and then things go south where you are and that big payday never comes. For every Fuente who got fired, and PJ Fleck who turned a p5 loser into a competitive team there is a Seth Luttrell who goes from hot to not. In the end, it’s business and to each his own. It’s their careers. Can’t think about that stuff, imo, just coach where you are and where it makes you happy.
11-18-2021 09:58 PM
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Yeah. It's easy to preach when it isn't your bank account.
11-19-2021 12:27 PM
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