Apparently, Oklahoma State fans researched names and addresses of NCAA staff, who were responsible for hammering their basketball program with a postseason ban and other sanctions.

Looks like they received death threats. While that's obviously unacceptable, I can't honestly say that I'm too worked up about it. If you run your organization like the Italian mafia, then guess what happens when the public starts punching back?

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/2...594474002/

Quote:“Comments by Oklahoma State personnel regarding its infractions case resulted in NCAA volunteer committee members and staff receiving threatening and offensive messages after being identified by name. This is unacceptable.

“Oklahoma State personnel encouraged individuals to circumvent the NCAA member-created process that every school agrees to participate in as part of their responsibility to each other. Further, there is a troubling trend of misstating facts about the infractions process by schools that disagree with the infractions outcomes. Each member has the ability to seek change to the Division I infractions process, and there is a review group underway looking at how to improve the process.

“This is also a clear example of the work that needs to be done to address issues and behaviors like this moving forward with the new NCAA Constitution and Division I Transformation process. We know that an adverse decision can be emotional, but personal attacks against individuals simply carrying out their responsibilities are inappropriate, unethical and potentially dangerous.”

Hope the committee thinks long and hard before issuing disciplinary measures against Memphis.

Reminds me of the time the Vol Football fans threw bottles and golf balls at Kiffin and pelted their own people with the fallout. The game had to be stopped.....

Many folks said that was ok... because the hillbillies were righteously angry at the refs. And now the people feel righteously angry at the committee members. How far does righteous anger go--as an excuse for violence, I mean?

Volunteering to be on committees --just to get death threats might become a thing of the past.

But who knows how much each person got paid under the table to can OK St.

I'm so suspicious.

(11-13-2021 10:19 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  Apparently, Oklahoma State fans researched names and addresses of NCAA staff, who were responsible for hammering their basketball program with a postseason ban and other sanctions.

Looks like they received death threats. While that's obviously unacceptable, I can't honestly say that I'm too worked up about it. If you run your organization like the Italian mafia, then guess what happens when the public starts punching back?

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/2...594474002/

Quote:“Comments by Oklahoma State personnel regarding its infractions case resulted in NCAA volunteer committee members and staff receiving threatening and offensive messages after being identified by name. This is unacceptable.

“Oklahoma State personnel encouraged individuals to circumvent the NCAA member-created process that every school agrees to participate in as part of their responsibility to each other. Further, there is a troubling trend of misstating facts about the infractions process by schools that disagree with the infractions outcomes. Each member has the ability to seek change to the Division I infractions process, and there is a review group underway looking at how to improve the process.

“This is also a clear example of the work that needs to be done to address issues and behaviors like this moving forward with the new NCAA Constitution and Division I Transformation process. We know that an adverse decision can be emotional, but personal attacks against individuals simply carrying out their responsibilities are inappropriate, unethical and potentially dangerous.”

Hope the committee thinks long and hard before issuing disciplinary measures against Memphis.

Yep threaten anyone who disagrees with you...

As a society that'll end well

(11-13-2021 11:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Reminds me of the time the Vol Football fans threw bottles and golf balls at Kiffin and pelted their own people with the fallout. The game had to be stopped.....

Many folks said that was ok... because the hillbillies were righteously angry at the refs. And now the people feel righteously angry at the committee members. How far does righteous anger go--as an excuse for violence, I mean?

Volunteering to be on committees --just to get death threats might become a thing of the past.

But who knows how much each person got paid under the table to can OK St.

I'm so suspicious.

I never needed an excuse for violence...

(11-13-2021 11:57 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:19 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  Apparently, Oklahoma State fans researched names and addresses of NCAA staff, who were responsible for hammering their basketball program with a postseason ban and other sanctions.

Looks like they received death threats. While that's obviously unacceptable, I can't honestly say that I'm too worked up about it. If you run your organization like the Italian mafia, then guess what happens when the public starts punching back?

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/2...594474002/

Quote:“Comments by Oklahoma State personnel regarding its infractions case resulted in NCAA volunteer committee members and staff receiving threatening and offensive messages after being identified by name. This is unacceptable.

“Oklahoma State personnel encouraged individuals to circumvent the NCAA member-created process that every school agrees to participate in as part of their responsibility to each other. Further, there is a troubling trend of misstating facts about the infractions process by schools that disagree with the infractions outcomes. Each member has the ability to seek change to the Division I infractions process, and there is a review group underway looking at how to improve the process.

“This is also a clear example of the work that needs to be done to address issues and behaviors like this moving forward with the new NCAA Constitution and Division I Transformation process. We know that an adverse decision can be emotional, but personal attacks against individuals simply carrying out their responsibilities are inappropriate, unethical and potentially dangerous.”

Hope the committee thinks long and hard before issuing disciplinary measures against Memphis.

Yep threaten anyone who disagrees with you...

As a society that'll end well

What society? That's on its way out the door being herded along by... well, never mind.

(11-13-2021 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 11:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Reminds me of the time the Vol Football fans threw bottles and golf balls at Kiffin and pelted their own people with the fallout. The game had to be stopped.....

Many folks said that was ok... because the hillbillies were righteously angry at the refs. And now the people feel righteously angry at the committee members. How far does righteous anger go--as an excuse for violence, I mean?

Volunteering to be on committees --just to get death threats might become a thing of the past.

But who knows how much each person got paid under the table to can OK St.

I'm so suspicious.

I never needed an excuse for violence...

Not everything is about you. lol

Are you one of the guys threatening harm to folks…or stopping games with projectiles…

No and no

violence, violence

it's the only thing

that will make you see sense

The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

I USED to believe that , now I see that a few large schools are running the ncaa and they are using the ncaa enforcement mechanisms to keep their advantage over other schools—.

When UNC got off scott free after proof surfaced that they had committed whosale academic fraud the ncaa was exposed for what they are a cabal of a few schools - mostly the sec and Big10 — how does Duke have a player getting 100k worth of jewelry during the season and get no penalty and Ok State is banned from the ncaa for $300? Duke and UNC get off - Ok St and Louisville get hammered

The Presidents that are benefiting from the slanted system are not going to put a stop to it , the Presidents who are being victimized by the NCAA don’t believe it is completely corrupt until it happens to them. Even when they do wake up, they are in the group that is scared of the break away and them being on the wrong side of it

(11-14-2021 12:54 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

I USED to believe that , now I see that a few large schools are running the ncaa and they are using the ncaa enforcement mechanisms to keep their advantage over other schools—.

When UNC got off scott free after proof surfaced that they had committed whosale academic fraud the ncaa was exposed for what they are a cabal of a few schools - mostly the sec and Big10 — how does Duke have a player getting 100k worth of jewelry during the season and get no penalty and Ok State is banned from the ncaa for $300? Duke and UNC get off - Ok St and Louisville get hammered

The Presidents that are benefiting from the slanted system are not going to put a stop to it , the Presidents who are being victimized by the NCAA don’t believe it is completely corrupt until it happens to them. Even when they do wake up, they are in the group that is scared of the break away and them being on the wrong side of it

(11-14-2021 06:33 AM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 12:54 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

I USED to believe that , now I see that a few large schools are running the ncaa and they are using the ncaa enforcement mechanisms to keep their advantage over other schools—.

When UNC got off scott free after proof surfaced that they had committed whosale academic fraud the ncaa was exposed for what they are a cabal of a few schools - mostly the sec and Big10 — how does Duke have a player getting 100k worth of jewelry during the season and get no penalty and Ok State is banned from the ncaa for $300? Duke and UNC get off - Ok St and Louisville get hammered

The Presidents that are benefiting from the slanted system are not going to put a stop to it , the Presidents who are being victimized by the NCAA don’t believe it is completely corrupt until it happens to them. Even when they do wake up, they are in the group that is scared of the break away and them being on the wrong side of it

Exactly.

(11-14-2021 12:54 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

I USED to believe that , now I see that a few large schools are running the ncaa and they are using the ncaa enforcement mechanisms to keep their advantage over other schools—.

When UNC got off scott free after proof surfaced that they had committed whosale academic fraud the ncaa was exposed for what they are a cabal of a few schools - mostly the sec and Big10 — how does Duke have a player getting 100k worth of jewelry during the season and get no penalty and Ok State is banned from the ncaa for $300? Duke and UNC get off - Ok St and Louisville get hammered

The Presidents that are benefiting from the slanted system are not going to put a stop to it , the Presidents who are being victimized by the NCAA don’t believe it is completely corrupt until it happens to them. Even when they do wake up, they are in the group that is scared of the break away and them being on the wrong side of it

The NCAA exists for one thing: to keep the NCAA tourney going which funds the institution. Yes it is a 5013© but a lot of people make very good money working there.

Duke and NC are considered money makers for the NCAA tourney so the book will never be thrown at either school as long as the NCAA in its current form exists.

(11-14-2021 10:34 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 12:54 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

I USED to believe that , now I see that a few large schools are running the ncaa and they are using the ncaa enforcement mechanisms to keep their advantage over other schools—.

When UNC got off scott free after proof surfaced that they had committed whosale academic fraud the ncaa was exposed for what they are a cabal of a few schools - mostly the sec and Big10 — how does Duke have a player getting 100k worth of jewelry during the season and get no penalty and Ok State is banned from the ncaa for $300? Duke and UNC get off - Ok St and Louisville get hammered

The Presidents that are benefiting from the slanted system are not going to put a stop to it , the Presidents who are being victimized by the NCAA don’t believe it is completely corrupt until it happens to them. Even when they do wake up, they are in the group that is scared of the break away and them being on the wrong side of it

The NCAA exists for one thing: to keep the NCAA tourney going which funds the institution. Yes it is a 5013© but a lot of people make very good money working there.

Duke and NC are considered money makers for the NCAA tourney so the book will never be thrown at either school as long as the NCAA in its current form exists.

When the p5 leave the ncaa they can have their own tournament.

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

Yeah, keep spouting that tired old line.
It's nonsense.
It's a power hierarchy administered by lawyers.

(11-14-2021 01:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

Yeah, keep spouting that tired old line.
It's nonsense.
It's a power hierarchy administered by lawyers.

They even pay their own Washington lobbyists to try to keep 'certain laws' from passing

(11-13-2021 10:19 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  Apparently, Oklahoma State fans researched names and addresses of NCAA staff, who were responsible for hammering their basketball program with a postseason ban and other sanctions.

Looks like they received death threats. While that's obviously unacceptable, I can't honestly say that I'm too worked up about it. If you run your organization like the Italian mafia, then guess what happens when the public starts punching back?

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/2...594474002/

Quote:“Comments by Oklahoma State personnel regarding its infractions case resulted in NCAA volunteer committee members and staff receiving threatening and offensive messages after being identified by name. This is unacceptable.

“Oklahoma State personnel encouraged individuals to circumvent the NCAA member-created process that every school agrees to participate in as part of their responsibility to each other. Further, there is a troubling trend of misstating facts about the infractions process by schools that disagree with the infractions outcomes. Each member has the ability to seek change to the Division I infractions process, and there is a review group underway looking at how to improve the process.

“This is also a clear example of the work that needs to be done to address issues and behaviors like this moving forward with the new NCAA Constitution and Division I Transformation process. We know that an adverse decision can be emotional, but personal attacks against individuals simply carrying out their responsibilities are inappropriate, unethical and potentially dangerous.”

Hope the committee thinks long and hard before issuing disciplinary measures against Memphis.

This post looks and sounds like a thinly veiled threat itself.

(11-14-2021 06:33 AM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 12:54 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  The NCAA is a member intuitions made up and run by Presidents of universities. If "they" the Presidents wanted to change things they can and could have at any time. Not sure why they haven't - a focus that has been lost on most.

I USED to believe that , now I see that a few large schools are running the ncaa and they are using the ncaa enforcement mechanisms to keep their advantage over other schools—.

When UNC got off scott free after proof surfaced that they had committed whosale academic fraud the ncaa was exposed for what they are a cabal of a few schools - mostly the sec and Big10 — how does Duke have a player getting 100k worth of jewelry during the season and get no penalty and Ok State is banned from the ncaa for $300? Duke and UNC get off - Ok St and Louisville get hammered

The Presidents that are benefiting from the slanted system are not going to put a stop to it , the Presidents who are being victimized by the NCAA don’t believe it is completely corrupt until it happens to them. Even when they do wake up, they are in the group that is scared of the break away and them being on the wrong side of it

Agree with this as well.