Edit: oh goodie, we had another run, 6-0, there near the end. Wowza.

Solid effort in the 2nd half. Unfortunately there was also the first half

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  I thought the UH fan base would have decent basketball knowledge but from the comments around me that’s not the case. Guess they don’t just struggle scholastically

Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

79-46 Houston. Guys, some of you need to stop with the hyperbole and please, I beg, pay attention to the matchups and not just the names on the jerseys. This was, and remains, a horrible matchup for Rice. Quite possibly one of the worst matchups for Rice in the country. Sampson is a brilliant defensive coach. His teams are effective at stopping the three and one of the staples of his system is that defenders swarm to the paint and opposing bigs. Guess how Rice likes to play? By working the ball through Fiedler (ineffective because of how Sampson defends bigs) and by shooting the 3 (not going to be easy). A 25+ point loss was always going to be the result if Rice didn't get hot from deep. Just because Houston struggled with an okay Hofstra team doesn't mean they're suddenly not a tournament team.

This isn't the end of the world. Am I worried about our point guard play? Yes. I've said this a million times, I don't think Pera recruits enough guys who can break down defenses. Mullins is out, McBride is adjusting to a different league and hasn't played competitively in two years, and Hutchins is raw. Is giving up 79 points concerning? Somewhat. But when you turn the ball over 20 times and give up 16 offensive rebounds, the other team is going to score a lot.

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  I thought the UH fan base would have decent basketball knowledge but from the comments around me that’s not the case. Guess they don’t just struggle scholastically

Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

Fertitta doesn’t care about those. I’d wager softball is better though.

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  I thought the UH fan base would have decent basketball knowledge but from the comments around me that’s not the case. Guess they don’t just struggle scholastically

Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

This year, basketball, volleyball and soccer for sure. They have a good women's golf program and softball program, neither of which we have. Don't know anything about swimming or track.

Men's sports they slaughter us in just about everything.

Pierre is tonight’s biggest disappointment. He just doesn’t have the clutch gene.

Great complementary player but can’t be your bellcow. Showed it in 4 years at UMass (and in high school quite frankly).

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  I thought the UH fan base would have decent basketball knowledge but from the comments around me that’s not the case. Guess they don’t just struggle scholastically

Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  I thought the UH fan base would have decent basketball knowledge but from the comments around me that’s not the case. Guess they don’t just struggle scholastically

Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

We don't even have elite women's programs. We have pretty good ones; we won the WNIT in basketball, not the NCAAs. They just look elite compared to the dumpster fire that is our men's sports programs.

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  I thought the UH fan base would have decent basketball knowledge but from the comments around me that’s not the case. Guess they don’t just struggle scholastically

Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

“On the rise” is another way to say “last option”? Kudos to UH. They found a rich alumnus who was willing to put tens of millions into their athletics program. They realized having a strong athletics program would attract all the kids who couldn’t get into established state schools and help enrollment. There’s a reason the student section copies LSU’s cheers.

Rice doesn’t need to increase applications and doesn’t seem to have any alumni who are willing to throw money at a poorly run department. Maybe our alumni are too smart or have been told it will never work.

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:44 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  I thought the UH fan base would have decent basketball knowledge but from the comments around me that’s not the case. Guess they don’t just struggle scholastically

Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

Tonight was bad but you are right, it will be nothing compared to when we have to go against on back to back weeks, the likes of Houston, Cincinnati, Central Florida.

(11-12-2021 10:30 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

“On the rise” is another way to say “last option”? Kudos to UH. They found a rich alumnus who was willing to put tens of millions into their athletics program. They realized having a strong athletics program would attract all the kids who couldn’t get into established state schools and help enrollment. There’s a reason the student section copies LSU’s cheers.

Rice doesn’t need to increase applications and doesn’t seem to have any alumni who are willing to throw money at a poorly run department. Maybe our alumni are too smart or have been told it will never work.

Look at the result when John Moores money went away (with his divorce) and hope it doesn’t happen with Tilman. But then again Moores never wanted to be UH’s bankroll as well as AD and President like Tilman.

The scavengers on this board have come out to hover over the carcas. Don't you guys have better things to do? Hey, whatever floats your boat.

(11-12-2021 10:30 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

“On the rise” is another way to say “last option”? Kudos to UH. They found a rich alumnus who was willing to put tens of millions into their athletics program. They realized having a strong athletics program would attract all the kids who couldn’t get into established state schools and help enrollment. There’s a reason the student section copies LSU’s cheers.

Rice doesn’t need to increase applications and doesn’t seem to have any alumni who are willing to throw money at a poorly run department. Maybe our alumni are too smart or have been told it will never work.

Rich alum? Like Tilman who went to UH and the many alums that support their school?

Established school? UH is a Tier 1 and R1 school. We all know what Rice academics is all about.

Your apathetic attitude and denial is the reason Rice athletics haven't evolved.

I've been to Rice and UH games since the 80s. My brother went to Rice and other family members. I can't even tell you how bad things have gone down.

(11-12-2021 10:30 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:52 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  Maybe if Rice used their "scholastic" advantage the athletic department and teams wouldn't be the continued embarrassment of the state.

Rice doesn't even look like it belongs in the same collegiate level as UH.

We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

“On the rise” is another way to say “last option”? Kudos to UH. They found a rich alumnus who was willing to put tens of millions into their athletics program. They realized having a strong athletics program would attract all the kids who couldn’t get into established state schools and help enrollment. There’s a reason the student section copies LSU’s cheers.

Rice doesn’t need to increase applications and doesn’t seem to have any alumni who are willing to throw money at a poorly run department. Maybe our alumni are too smart or have been told it will never work.

Be thankful Rice got in AAC. Most AAC fans think Rice brings nothing to the AAC in terms of sports.

(11-12-2021 10:38 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:30 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

“On the rise” is another way to say “last option”? Kudos to UH. They found a rich alumnus who was willing to put tens of millions into their athletics program. They realized having a strong athletics program would attract all the kids who couldn’t get into established state schools and help enrollment. There’s a reason the student section copies LSU’s cheers.

Rice doesn’t need to increase applications and doesn’t seem to have any alumni who are willing to throw money at a poorly run department. Maybe our alumni are too smart or have been told it will never work.

Rich alum? Like Tilman who went to UH and the many alums that support their school?

Established school? UH is a Tier 1 and R1 school. We all know what Rice academics is all about.

Your apathetic attitude and denial is the reason Rice athletics haven't evolved.

I've been to Rice and UH games since the 80s. My brother went to Rice and other family members. I can't even tell you how bad things have gone down.

Reading comprehension…

Tier 1 is something UH started bragging about around 2012 that just means they spend enough money on research to receive that classification. It has nothing to do with the quality of school.

(11-12-2021 10:10 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  79-46 Houston. Guys, some of you need to stop with the hyperbole and please, I beg, pay attention to the matchups and not just the names on the jerseys. This was, and remains, a horrible matchup for Rice. Quite possibly one of the worst matchups for Rice in the country. Sampson is a brilliant defensive coach. His teams are effective at stopping the three and one of the staples of his system is that defenders swarm to the paint and opposing bigs. Guess how Rice likes to play? By working the ball through Fiedler (ineffective because of how Sampson defends bigs) and by shooting the 3 (not going to be easy). A 25+ point loss was always going to be the result if Rice didn't get hot from deep. Just because Houston struggled with an okay Hofstra team doesn't mean they're suddenly not a tournament team.

This isn't the end of the world. Am I worried about our point guard play? Yes. I've said this a million times, I don't think Pera recruits enough guys who can break down defenses. Mullins is out, McBride is adjusting to a different league and hasn't played competitively in two years, and Hutchins is raw. Is giving up 79 points concerning? Somewhat. But when you turn the ball over 20 times and give up 16 offensive rebounds, the other team is going to score a lot.

100% agree. I suspect when the season is over UH will have played its best defensive half of the season in the 1st half against Rice. There were TWO uncontested shots in the half. Rice was not missing open looks. They were forced to chuck low % shots, late in the shot clock. The only criticism I would have if I was a Rice fan, is why the team played so slow offensively. If you let UH set up its half court defense, you are not going to score at a high clip. They need some guard to get aggressive and attack the rim before the defense sets. I don't pretend to know Rice's personnel, so maybe that guy does not exist.

I don't think UH is as good as they looked tonight (probably a top 30 team, but not the top 15 team it is currently ranked) and Rice is certainly competitive in CUSA. Best of luck to the Owls the rest of the way. Hope you can get your horses healthy.

(11-12-2021 10:38 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:30 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:20 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:08 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 09:55 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  We don't in just about any sport these days. Sad how far we've fallen.

In how many women's sports is Houston ahead of Rice? I'll wait.

You keep holding on to those Rice elite women's championships while there are major issues in the Rice athletic department. There's a reason why one school is on the rise and is in the Big 12 while Rice is holding on by the AAC hopeful rope.

You think tonight is bad, wait when Rice plays in the AAC.

“On the rise” is another way to say “last option”? Kudos to UH. They found a rich alumnus who was willing to put tens of millions into their athletics program. They realized having a strong athletics program would attract all the kids who couldn’t get into established state schools and help enrollment. There’s a reason the student section copies LSU’s cheers.

Rice doesn’t need to increase applications and doesn’t seem to have any alumni who are willing to throw money at a poorly run department. Maybe our alumni are too smart or have been told it will never work.

Rich alum? Like Tilman who went to UH and the many alums that support their school?

Established school? UH is a Tier 1 and R1 school. We all know what Rice academics is all about.

Your apathetic attitude and denial is the reason Rice athletics haven't evolved.

I've been to Rice and UH games since the 80s. My brother went to Rice and other family members. I can't even tell you how bad things have gone down.

As pathetic as the rice support has become, I would be willing to bet that as a % of graduates, Rice's attendance is still higher. UH is a wannabe of Rice and UT. Period.

(11-12-2021 10:42 PM)Mademen Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:10 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  79-46 Houston. Guys, some of you need to stop with the hyperbole and please, I beg, pay attention to the matchups and not just the names on the jerseys. This was, and remains, a horrible matchup for Rice. Quite possibly one of the worst matchups for Rice in the country. Sampson is a brilliant defensive coach. His teams are effective at stopping the three and one of the staples of his system is that defenders swarm to the paint and opposing bigs. Guess how Rice likes to play? By working the ball through Fiedler (ineffective because of how Sampson defends bigs) and by shooting the 3 (not going to be easy). A 25+ point loss was always going to be the result if Rice didn't get hot from deep. Just because Houston struggled with an okay Hofstra team doesn't mean they're suddenly not a tournament team.

This isn't the end of the world. Am I worried about our point guard play? Yes. I've said this a million times, I don't think Pera recruits enough guys who can break down defenses. Mullins is out, McBride is adjusting to a different league and hasn't played competitively in two years, and Hutchins is raw. Is giving up 79 points concerning? Somewhat. But when you turn the ball over 20 times and give up 16 offensive rebounds, the other team is going to score a lot.

100% agree. I suspect when the season is over UH will have played its best defensive half of the season in the 1st half against Rice. There were TWO uncontested shots in the half. Rice was not missing open looks. They were forced to chuck low % shots, late in the shot clock. The only criticism I would have if I was a Rice fan, is why the team played so slow offensively. If you let UH set up its half court defense, you are not going to score at a high clip. They need some guard to get aggressive and attack the rim before the defense sets. I don't pretend to know Rice's personnel, so maybe that guy does not exist.

I don't think UH is as good as they looked tonight (probably a top 30 team, but not the top 15 team it is currently ranked) and Rice is certainly competitive in CUSA. Best of luck to the Owls the rest of the way. Hope you can get your horses healthy.

Mademen- you have always been rational and fair. Only if there were more of you rooting for your team.

(11-12-2021 10:45 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:42 PM)Mademen Wrote:  

(11-12-2021 10:10 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  79-46 Houston. Guys, some of you need to stop with the hyperbole and please, I beg, pay attention to the matchups and not just the names on the jerseys. This was, and remains, a horrible matchup for Rice. Quite possibly one of the worst matchups for Rice in the country. Sampson is a brilliant defensive coach. His teams are effective at stopping the three and one of the staples of his system is that defenders swarm to the paint and opposing bigs. Guess how Rice likes to play? By working the ball through Fiedler (ineffective because of how Sampson defends bigs) and by shooting the 3 (not going to be easy). A 25+ point loss was always going to be the result if Rice didn't get hot from deep. Just because Houston struggled with an okay Hofstra team doesn't mean they're suddenly not a tournament team.

This isn't the end of the world. Am I worried about our point guard play? Yes. I've said this a million times, I don't think Pera recruits enough guys who can break down defenses. Mullins is out, McBride is adjusting to a different league and hasn't played competitively in two years, and Hutchins is raw. Is giving up 79 points concerning? Somewhat. But when you turn the ball over 20 times and give up 16 offensive rebounds, the other team is going to score a lot.

100% agree. I suspect when the season is over UH will have played its best defensive half of the season in the 1st half against Rice. There were TWO uncontested shots in the half. Rice was not missing open looks. They were forced to chuck low % shots, late in the shot clock. The only criticism I would have if I was a Rice fan, is why the team played so slow offensively. If you let UH set up its half court defense, you are not going to score at a high clip. They need some guard to get aggressive and attack the rim before the defense sets. I don't pretend to know Rice's personnel, so maybe that guy does not exist.

I don't think UH is as good as they looked tonight (probably a top 30 team, but not the top 15 team it is currently ranked) and Rice is certainly competitive in CUSA. Best of luck to the Owls the rest of the way. Hope you can get your horses healthy.

Mademen- you have always been rational and fair. Only if there were more of you rooting for your team.

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