(11-12-2021 06:19 AM)FrankyP Wrote: So do most of you guys think Judy did a good job after all, since it seems that y’all are happy with new adds?
She has a lot to make up for the terrible media deal she put us in. However, I'm happy with the 4 new additions. Id still fire her immediately and find new leadership.
(11-12-2021 06:19 AM)FrankyP Wrote: So do most of you guys think Judy did a good job after all, since it seems that y’all are happy with new adds?
She has a lot to make up for the terrible media deal she put us in. However, I'm happy with the 4 new additions. Id still fire her immediately and find new leadership.
This.
Thanks for adding four these 4 teams and not overdoing it. I wouldn't give her another shot at negotiating a media deal. (Unless you think she learned from her mistakes last time and will pull out a better deal this time)
(11-11-2021 09:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote: Oooh. Look at Liberty good at sports all of a sudden. How long ago was it that Liberty snuck through the Big South tournament and pundits were questioning if you were the worst team in NCAA Tournament history? It was 2013.
Liberty hasn't had a losing season in football since 2005. They won two straight bowl games as underdogs and will be in a bowl game their 3rd full year in FBS as well. In the last 5 years in basketball, Liberty is 125-46, including 3 straight NCAA appearances. They beat Ole Miss in the tournament, and have beaten several SEC schools, Wake Forest, and UCLA. I'm not here to make this about Liberty. There were plenty of other schools besides Liberty I think had more credentials for getting into the AAC then Charlotte. That said, I wish Charlotte good luck in their new conference.
Easy to do when you are the Grand Canyon University of the East.
I know Liberty moved to C-USA to have a shot at the Expanded CFP, but with this current arrangement a 2 loss conference team from the AAC, Sun Belt, and MWC would all be ranked higher than an undefeated Liberty in this version of C-USA. 6 years from now that may change but history shows that MTSU, FIU, NMSU, and UTEP are going to be bottom 10 to 20 teams.
You are so full of crap because history has shown that Middle is more likely to be a 7 to 8 win team than a bottom 10 to 20.
Hell the SBC just added 3 bottom feeders if we are going by current history...
ODU is most likely a 4 to 5 win team this season and the previous 2 seasons a 1 and 4 win team
S. Miss is most likely a 1 -11 or 2-10 team and a 3 win team last season and 5 out of the last 10 football seasons S. Miss finished with 3 or less wins. Hell 3 out of 5 winning seasons they were 1 game over .500
There's 2 bottom 10 to 20 programs the past couple years
Then you have a FCS move up in JMU that has not played as good as SHSU at that level. You must be assuming a larger budget makes them better...ODU budget is 40 million and how is that working out?
Then the SBC has 3 other bottom feeder schools in
ULM
Texas St
USA not over 4 wins in the past 4 seasons and the only reason they are winning 2021...130 out of 130 SOS
The SBC also has another school that floats to the bottom in Ga St
So the SBC's bottom just expanded by 100% by adding 2 FCS bottom feeders and a FCS. Compared to those SIX bottom feeders over the past few seasons or the last 10 seasons.....Middle would be middle to lower upper top of the SBC.
The SBC only good addition was Marshall and while most seasons they played at the top of CUSA 3.0. They failed to win the conference other than 2014.
Three out of the top 4 winningest CUSA 3.0 schools remain in CUSA and Middle is one of those. I'm not including UAB because they failed to play 2 seasons. Liberty over the past 3 seasons has played better football than any school that left CUSA and yes that includes Marshall and two time champs, UAB and FAU
That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
(11-11-2021 09:49 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote: Liberty hasn't had a losing season in football since 2005. They won two straight bowl games as underdogs and will be in a bowl game their 3rd full year in FBS as well. In the last 5 years in basketball, Liberty is 125-46, including 3 straight NCAA appearances. They beat Ole Miss in the tournament, and have beaten several SEC schools, Wake Forest, and UCLA. I'm not here to make this about Liberty. There were plenty of other schools besides Liberty I think had more credentials for getting into the AAC then Charlotte. That said, I wish Charlotte good luck in their new conference.
Easy to do when you are the Grand Canyon University of the East.
I know Liberty moved to C-USA to have a shot at the Expanded CFP, but with this current arrangement a 2 loss conference team from the AAC, Sun Belt, and MWC would all be ranked higher than an undefeated Liberty in this version of C-USA. 6 years from now that may change but history shows that MTSU, FIU, NMSU, and UTEP are going to be bottom 10 to 20 teams.
You are so full of crap because history has shown that Middle is more likely to be a 7 to 8 win team than a bottom 10 to 20.
Hell the SBC just added 3 bottom feeders if we are going by current history...
ODU is most likely a 4 to 5 win team this season and the previous 2 seasons a 1 and 4 win team
S. Miss is most likely a 1 -11 or 2-10 team and a 3 win team last season and 5 out of the last 10 football seasons S. Miss finished with 3 or less wins. Hell 3 out of 5 winning seasons they were 1 game over .500
There's 2 bottom 10 to 20 programs the past couple years
Then you have a FCS move up in JMU that has not played as good as SHSU at that level. You must be assuming a larger budget makes them better...ODU budget is 40 million and how is that working out?
Then the SBC has 3 other bottom feeder schools in
ULM
Texas St
USA not over 4 wins in the past 4 seasons and the only reason they are winning 2021...130 out of 130 SOS
The SBC also has another school that floats to the bottom in Ga St
So the SBC's bottom just expanded by 100% by adding 2 FCS bottom feeders and a FCS. Compared to those SIX bottom feeders over the past few seasons or the last 10 seasons.....Middle would be middle to lower upper top of the SBC.
The SBC only good addition was Marshall and while most seasons they played at the top of CUSA 3.0. They failed to win the conference other than 2014.
Three out of the top 4 winningest CUSA 3.0 schools remain in CUSA and Middle is one of those. I'm not including UAB because they failed to play 2 seasons. Liberty over the past 3 seasons has played better football than any school that left CUSA and yes that includes Marshall and two time champs, UAB and FAU
That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
(11-12-2021 09:16 AM)ericsaid Wrote: Easy to do when you are the Grand Canyon University of the East.
I know Liberty moved to C-USA to have a shot at the Expanded CFP, but with this current arrangement a 2 loss conference team from the AAC, Sun Belt, and MWC would all be ranked higher than an undefeated Liberty in this version of C-USA. 6 years from now that may change but history shows that MTSU, FIU, NMSU, and UTEP are going to be bottom 10 to 20 teams.
You are so full of crap because history has shown that Middle is more likely to be a 7 to 8 win team than a bottom 10 to 20.
Hell the SBC just added 3 bottom feeders if we are going by current history...
ODU is most likely a 4 to 5 win team this season and the previous 2 seasons a 1 and 4 win team
S. Miss is most likely a 1 -11 or 2-10 team and a 3 win team last season and 5 out of the last 10 football seasons S. Miss finished with 3 or less wins. Hell 3 out of 5 winning seasons they were 1 game over .500
There's 2 bottom 10 to 20 programs the past couple years
Then you have a FCS move up in JMU that has not played as good as SHSU at that level. You must be assuming a larger budget makes them better...ODU budget is 40 million and how is that working out?
Then the SBC has 3 other bottom feeder schools in
ULM
Texas St
USA not over 4 wins in the past 4 seasons and the only reason they are winning 2021...130 out of 130 SOS
The SBC also has another school that floats to the bottom in Ga St
So the SBC's bottom just expanded by 100% by adding 2 FCS bottom feeders and a FCS. Compared to those SIX bottom feeders over the past few seasons or the last 10 seasons.....Middle would be middle to lower upper top of the SBC.
The SBC only good addition was Marshall and while most seasons they played at the top of CUSA 3.0. They failed to win the conference other than 2014.
Three out of the top 4 winningest CUSA 3.0 schools remain in CUSA and Middle is one of those. I'm not including UAB because they failed to play 2 seasons. Liberty over the past 3 seasons has played better football than any school that left CUSA and yes that includes Marshall and two time champs, UAB and FAU
That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
I feel like you need a hug or a crisp high five.
I'm not a huggy feely type person and never need assurance from anyone. I have enough confidence that what I say is factual based
(11-11-2021 07:41 PM)rtist Wrote: I would agree with this; however, C-USA isn't going to succeed by copying the Sun Belt. They've had years to cultivate this identity; C-USA had been a mish-mash of identities. This left bigger markets vulnerable to AAC expansion, and smaller schools vulnerable to Sun Belt expansion.
We need to be different from both the AAC and Sun Belt if we are to build for the future. The question is: what identity should be cultivated?
Focus on bball which was the roots of CUSA. Any further additions should have a strong hoops tradition and facilities.
YES, YES, YES. A thousand times YES.
Wholeheartedly agree with this statement! I think this is going to be such a GOOD basketball conference.
(11-12-2021 09:45 AM)WKUYG Wrote: You are so full of crap because history has shown that Middle is more likely to be a 7 to 8 win team than a bottom 10 to 20.
Hell the SBC just added 3 bottom feeders if we are going by current history...
ODU is most likely a 4 to 5 win team this season and the previous 2 seasons a 1 and 4 win team
S. Miss is most likely a 1 -11 or 2-10 team and a 3 win team last season and 5 out of the last 10 football seasons S. Miss finished with 3 or less wins. Hell 3 out of 5 winning seasons they were 1 game over .500
There's 2 bottom 10 to 20 programs the past couple years
Then you have a FCS move up in JMU that has not played as good as SHSU at that level. You must be assuming a larger budget makes them better...ODU budget is 40 million and how is that working out?
Then the SBC has 3 other bottom feeder schools in
ULM
Texas St
USA not over 4 wins in the past 4 seasons and the only reason they are winning 2021...130 out of 130 SOS
The SBC also has another school that floats to the bottom in Ga St
So the SBC's bottom just expanded by 100% by adding 2 FCS bottom feeders and a FCS. Compared to those SIX bottom feeders over the past few seasons or the last 10 seasons.....Middle would be middle to lower upper top of the SBC.
The SBC only good addition was Marshall and while most seasons they played at the top of CUSA 3.0. They failed to win the conference other than 2014.
Three out of the top 4 winningest CUSA 3.0 schools remain in CUSA and Middle is one of those. I'm not including UAB because they failed to play 2 seasons. Liberty over the past 3 seasons has played better football than any school that left CUSA and yes that includes Marshall and two time champs, UAB and FAU
That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
I feel like you need a hug or a crisp high five.
I'm not a huggy feely type person and never need assurance from anyone. I have enough confidence that what I say is factual based
It's factual-based, but statistics can be skewed for narrative. ODU was a bottom feeder because of our FCS coach who built the program being kept too long. We finally have an FBS coach, only our second coach ever, who is actually recruiting FBS talent and doing all the right things. As long as we keep hiring FBS quality coaches, we have turned the page on that era. This year we have 68 freshman, a 3-6 record and 3 of our losses have been by one score or *less*, in the case of a missed PAT and the case of an overtime loss.
(11-11-2021 10:27 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote: Having a hard time understanding why it will not be better. Travel is a negative.
Teams lost to SBC will be improved in replacements. Liberty will be/is better than Marshall. Sam Houston is better than USM and JSU is better than ODU. While coming from FCS, Sam and JSU performance could change with the scenery change in divisions but both would have to be a major bust to not reach USM or ODU caliber.
UTSA, UAB and FAU are blows but losing UNCC, NT and Rice will help the strength.
Lost
Good
UAB
UTSA
FAU
Marshall
Bad
USM
UNCC
ODU
NT
Rice
Looks like a positive outcome for quality.
Hahahaha. You're a clown and that's the funniest **** I've ever seen. ODU isn't that good but they are better than you.
WKU fans have to put up with this **** now for years. All these newbies telling us how they will make this conference better. Liberty going to put us on ESPN now or better home and gardens. I know Jax st Basketball sucks because I know their HC. Someone, anyone get us out now! I am not going to make it 3 years with these new people. Sam Houston hasn’t even chimed in yet. I am sure they are going to save cusa too…
(11-12-2021 09:45 AM)WKUYG Wrote: You are so full of crap because history has shown that Middle is more likely to be a 7 to 8 win team than a bottom 10 to 20.
Hell the SBC just added 3 bottom feeders if we are going by current history...
ODU is most likely a 4 to 5 win team this season and the previous 2 seasons a 1 and 4 win team
S. Miss is most likely a 1 -11 or 2-10 team and a 3 win team last season and 5 out of the last 10 football seasons S. Miss finished with 3 or less wins. Hell 3 out of 5 winning seasons they were 1 game over .500
There's 2 bottom 10 to 20 programs the past couple years
Then you have a FCS move up in JMU that has not played as good as SHSU at that level. You must be assuming a larger budget makes them better...ODU budget is 40 million and how is that working out?
Then the SBC has 3 other bottom feeder schools in
ULM
Texas St
USA not over 4 wins in the past 4 seasons and the only reason they are winning 2021...130 out of 130 SOS
The SBC also has another school that floats to the bottom in Ga St
So the SBC's bottom just expanded by 100% by adding 2 FCS bottom feeders and a FCS. Compared to those SIX bottom feeders over the past few seasons or the last 10 seasons.....Middle would be middle to lower upper top of the SBC.
The SBC only good addition was Marshall and while most seasons they played at the top of CUSA 3.0. They failed to win the conference other than 2014.
Three out of the top 4 winningest CUSA 3.0 schools remain in CUSA and Middle is one of those. I'm not including UAB because they failed to play 2 seasons. Liberty over the past 3 seasons has played better football than any school that left CUSA and yes that includes Marshall and two time champs, UAB and FAU
That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
I feel like you need a hug or a crisp high five.
I'm not a huggy feely type person and never need assurance from anyone. I have enough confidence that what I say is factual based
So 2 years ago you’d have been fine with WKU being classified as a bottom feeder?
(11-12-2021 10:08 AM)mturn017 Wrote: That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
I feel like you need a hug or a crisp high five.
I'm not a huggy feely type person and never need assurance from anyone. I have enough confidence that what I say is factual based
It's factual-based, but statistics can be skewed for narrative. ODU was a bottom feeder because of our FCS coach who built the program being kept too long. We finally have an FBS coach, only our second coach ever, who is actually recruiting FBS talent and doing all the right things. As long as we keep hiring FBS quality coaches, we have turned the page on that era. This year we have 68 freshman, a 3-6 record and 3 of our losses have been by one score or *less*, in the case of a missed PAT and the case of an overtime loss.
No where did I say ODU or S.Miss had to or would stay at the bottom. I'm going by what ericsaid, said, and my post was limited to what I assume he must be talking about the last 2 or 3 seasons...
not one school is limited to what they are doing this year or did the last season or any season. That includes winning as well as losing.
(11-11-2021 10:27 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote: Sam Houston is better than USM
Sam Houston is the defending FCS Champion currently ranked #1 in the nation in FCS. If Jacksonville State is able to beat Florida State, Sam Houston would probably beat Southern Miss this year.
(11-12-2021 09:45 AM)WKUYG Wrote: You are so full of crap because history has shown that Middle is more likely to be a 7 to 8 win team than a bottom 10 to 20.
Hell the SBC just added 3 bottom feeders if we are going by current history...
ODU is most likely a 4 to 5 win team this season and the previous 2 seasons a 1 and 4 win team
S. Miss is most likely a 1 -11 or 2-10 team and a 3 win team last season and 5 out of the last 10 football seasons S. Miss finished with 3 or less wins. Hell 3 out of 5 winning seasons they were 1 game over .500
There's 2 bottom 10 to 20 programs the past couple years
Then you have a FCS move up in JMU that has not played as good as SHSU at that level. You must be assuming a larger budget makes them better...ODU budget is 40 million and how is that working out?
Then the SBC has 3 other bottom feeder schools in
ULM
Texas St
USA not over 4 wins in the past 4 seasons and the only reason they are winning 2021...130 out of 130 SOS
The SBC also has another school that floats to the bottom in Ga St
So the SBC's bottom just expanded by 100% by adding 2 FCS bottom feeders and a FCS. Compared to those SIX bottom feeders over the past few seasons or the last 10 seasons.....Middle would be middle to lower upper top of the SBC.
The SBC only good addition was Marshall and while most seasons they played at the top of CUSA 3.0. They failed to win the conference other than 2014.
Three out of the top 4 winningest CUSA 3.0 schools remain in CUSA and Middle is one of those. I'm not including UAB because they failed to play 2 seasons. Liberty over the past 3 seasons has played better football than any school that left CUSA and yes that includes Marshall and two time champs, UAB and FAU
That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
I feel like you need a hug or a crisp high five.
I'm not a huggy feely type person and never need assurance from anyone. I have enough confidence that what I say is factual based
(11-12-2021 11:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote: I’d say Western only being able to win basketball titles in a weaker conference is proof that their basketball program is ****. Factual.
(11-11-2021 10:27 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote: Liberty will be/is better than Marshall.
Trying to be objective/impartial here. I honestly see that as an even trade.
Quote:Sam Houston is better than USM and JSU is better than ODU.
I don’t really have enough information about SHSU and JSU to say. Maybe you’re right. But I guess I’m wondering what you base that on.
Quote:UTSA, UAB and FAU are blows but losing UNCC, NT and Rice will help the strength.
100% agreement. I’m told that Navy insisted on Rice. Not a good move by AAC, tbh, but okay I get it. But UNT and UNCC — wow. Taking those 3 perennial losers off your hands is Aresco’s gift to C-USA. The remainers should be thankful and make the most of it.
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(11-11-2021 08:08 PM)Dowless Wrote: For you guys that don't know the history of CUSA, the best days were when the conference was formed. This was Cinci, DePaul, Loiusville, Marquette, Saint Louis, South Florida, Charlotte, Southern Miss, UAB, Memphis, and Tulane. In 2005, there was another shuffle which saw several teams leave. The conference got weaker. Another split in 2013 and the conference got weaker. In 2023, another split is happening and it is just a hunch, but I don't think the conference will get stronger with this split. I honestly think that CUSA has a leadership issue and until that is resolved it will not get better.
Charlotte had a lack of leadership vision through the 90s and into the 00s. The lack of football sent us to the Atlantic 10. Finally, alumni and students forced the AD and the University into starting football. We were absolutely lucky to get back into CUSA in 2013. Now under new leadership, our football program is growing, basketball appears to be turning a corner, and baseball just won the regular season title.
Anyone that says Charlotte is not a loss for CUSA has no clue what is going on with the University and the Athletics. The budget is growing and a lot of big facility upgrades coming.
They can have facility upgrades all the want. The bottom line is, Charlotte was 52-90 in the last 5 years in basketball before this one. They were 21-46 in football the 5 years before this one. They averaged 12,319 fans in 2019 at football games. MANY teams were more deserving than Charlotte for the AAC. They were chosen for academic elitist reasons, not for sports. I'm sure facility upgrades and market matters, but it wasn't on winning programs, that is for sure.
Oooh. Look at Liberty good at sports all of a sudden. How long ago was it that Liberty snuck through the Big South tournament and pundits were questioning if you were the worst team in NCAA Tournament history? It was 2013.
Liberty hasn't had a losing season in football since 2005. They won two straight bowl games as underdogs and will be in a bowl game their 3rd full year in FBS as well. In the last 5 years in basketball, Liberty is 125-46, including 3 straight NCAA appearances. They beat Ole Miss in the tournament, and have beaten several SEC schools, Wake Forest, and UCLA. I'm not here to make this about Liberty. There were plenty of other schools besides Liberty I think had more credentials for getting into the AAC then Charlotte. That said, I wish Charlotte good luck in their new conference.
Easy to do when you are the Grand Canyon University of the East.
I know Liberty moved to C-USA to have a shot at the Expanded CFP, but with this current arrangement a 2 loss conference team from the AAC, Sun Belt, and MWC would all be ranked higher than an undefeated Liberty in this version of C-USA. 6 years from now that may change but history shows that MTSU, FIU, NMSU, and UTEP are going to be bottom 10 to 20 teams.
(11-11-2021 10:27 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote: Sam Houston is better than USM
Sam Houston is the defending FCS Champion currently ranked #1 in the nation in FCS. If Jacksonville State is able to beat Florida State, Sam Houston would probably beat Southern Miss this year.
All depending on what happens between now and next September, might could pull it off next season too. Gotta see how much room Hall can make with these HS back ups Hop signed.
(11-12-2021 10:08 AM)mturn017 Wrote: That’s a bunch of word salad to say nothing at all except that you think MT isn’t a bottom feeder (you’re right) and that SHSU has done more in CUSA than JMU (you’re wrong).
Then let me clean it up for you and be very clear......
SBC added 2 bottom feeders and a FCS school that is not as good as SHSU is at this time. Since ericsaid must be talking about the last 2 to 3 seasons, ODU and S. Miss fits that bottom feeder tag more than Middle
ODU has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 10, 2018
S. Miss has a total of 2 FBS wins since Nov 16, 2019
Cant get much more closer to the bottom than that . Middle has 3 FBS wins this season and 2 of those are Marshall and S. Miss. Along with a win @Troy last season.
Like I said if Middle is a bottom feeder the new SBC is loaded with 40% of the conference as bottom feeders
I feel like you need a hug or a crisp high five.
I'm not a huggy feely type person and never need assurance from anyone. I have enough confidence that what I say is factual based
So 2 years ago you’d have been fine with WKU being classified as a bottom feeder?
2020 I would say Western was one of the worse football teams in FBS. I did say just that, a number of times. But I dont believe ericsaid was limiting his post to the Covid season. Even with what I considered for Western, Western did have 4 FBS wins and 5-7 record and 77th of 128 in total wins.
I dont have any problem saying so when Western is not playing well and not living up to what I expect.
(11-12-2021 11:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote: I’d say Western only being able to win basketball titles in a weaker conference is proof that their basketball program is ****. Factual.
Someone is letting their feeling get hurt.
Am I wrong? WKU hasn’t been to the tournament against current competition.
I obviously don’t think WKU’s basketball program is ****. I think your arguments are ****.
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Let's make CUSA Better!!
