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RE: Rice Announcing New President Tomorrow at 2 P.M.
(11-11-2021 07:11 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
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(11-11-2021 03:53 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Wow... this is potentially HUGE for Rice Athletics

Congratulations to Reggie and his family!

To those of us who don't know, what is his affiliation to athletics?

See Hambone's post #11 above ... or here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-935096-post-17...id17842876
Thanks, That is encouraging, but don't know if support of a sport w true student athletes( such as soccer) translates into the kind of support necessary to make FB, or MBB( where the successful programs are not so likely to have true students) relevant. I hope so.
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(11-11-2021 07:11 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
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(11-11-2021 03:53 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Wow... this is potentially HUGE for Rice Athletics

Congratulations to Reggie and his family!

To those of us who don't know, what is his affiliation to athletics?

See Hambone's post #11 above ... or here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-935096-post-17...id17842876
Thanks, That is encouraging, but don't know if support of a sport w true student athletes( such as soccer) translates into the kind of support necessary to make FB, or MBB( where the successful programs are not so likely to have true students) relevant. I hope so.
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Desroches will be great for Athletics from all that I’ve heard and can tell.

Less optimistic on the statue front. After all, he is the brother of a senior advisor to statue-remover-in-chief, Bill Deblasio.
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I saw a few Rice student athletes twitter feeds who seemed genuinely happy that he was named the new President. I suspect that he's been a helpful influence behind the scenes for our minority athletes (and probably not just the minority athletes) the past couple of years.
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(11-12-2021 08:18 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Desroches will be great for Athletics from all that I’ve heard and can tell.

Less optimistic on the statue front. After all, he is the brother of a senior advisor to statue-remover-in-chief, Bill Deblasio.

I guess we will see. In the meantime, I shall continue to not answer those calls from Rice.
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(11-11-2021 04:10 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
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(11-11-2021 03:53 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Wow... this is potentially HUGE for Rice Athletics

Congratulations to Reggie and his family!

To those of us who don't know, what is his affiliation to athletics?

The most obvious is that his daughter is on the soccer team. Beyond that, I know that the ADs office recruited him pretty hard as a fan and that he has generally been supportive as he could be as Provost. Also, he comes from Berkeley (as a student) and Ga Tech (as faculty) and he was the Faculty Athletics Rep there... and was VP of the ACC.

I understand that Berkeley and GT (and the ACC) aren't Michigan and UT (or the SEC), but they're not bad models for Rice to follow in many regards. They are decidedly better than Yale and the Ivy League.

Good to know. Ready. I hope he really supports athletics in a big way. We need a culture change.
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(11-12-2021 12:47 AM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote:  
(11-11-2021 10:34 PM)Baconator Wrote:  Does anybody know what his position is on removing Willy’s Statue?

what's the debate around the statue?

Well, if you dare venture into The Quad, you can read about the issue in detail in the thread titled "Founder's Memorial Update - Task Force on Slavery, Segregation, & Racial Injustice." Immediately following the initial post-George Floyd protests and rioting, a Rice Black Student group created and submitted a list of approximately 20 demands to the university, including 1) the removal of Willy's statue, 2) the building of an on campus "Black House" - similar in size to the residential colleges, to be used only by black students for events and socializing, 3) implementation of mandatory diversity training for all professors, counselors, students, etc., 4) an increase in percentage of black students, professors, counselors, etc., 5) a cutting of all ties with the Houston Police Department and reducing the amount of RUPD presence on campus, 6) that a continuous monetary investment be made by Rice to the Third Ward, etc. In the weeks and months the followed, many of the Rice athletes participated in some form of BLM protests, such as 1) the football team marching in unison to conduct a formal protest in the main quad, 2) basketball team members wearing BLM warmup jerseys last year, 3) soccer team members kneeling during the national anthem (Note: I never witnessed this myself - another poster mentioned this had occurred at women's soccer games this year).

Not surprisingly, throughout all this, the university leadership has maintained a strong, left-leaning public stance on these issues. A committee was formed to look into this list of demands, and my understanding is that their resulting report indicated that most of the black student demands will be met, including removal of Willy's statue. However, none of us have heard any news as to the University's final decision on these issues - most importantly, the decision on whether Willy's statue will in fact be removed. After witnessing other universities and cities bowing to the cancel culture movement, and knowing the political leanings of the current Rice administration, most of us feel it is just a matter of time before a final decision is made to remove the statue (and perhaps change the name of the university?). Because of their disagreement with the cancel culture movement, many Rice athletic supporters have decided to stop attending Rice sporting events and have ended their financial relationship with Rice - including most of my friends and I, who have been attending Rice football, basketball, and baseball sporting events together for the last 30 years.

In my view, Leebron should have announced the university's path-forward decision on all these issues by now - why has that not been the case? Meanwhile, many of Rice's most die-hard sports fans continue to boycott the games and have stopped donating any money to the Owl Club and Annual Fund.

I am really hoping the new President will be an alumni uniter, and not a divider like our current President. Here's a good compromise for him to implement: Keep the statue as is, but add other statues in the quad honoring the first black students, former Rice Nobel Prize winners, etc. Am I being naive? Is a reasonable compromise like that too much to hope for?
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(11-12-2021 09:56 AM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 12:47 AM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote:  
(11-11-2021 10:34 PM)Baconator Wrote:  Does anybody know what his position is on removing Willy’s Statue?

what's the debate around the statue?

Well, if you dare venture into The Quad, you can read about the issue in detail in the thread titled "Founder's Memorial Update - Task Force on Slavery, Segregation, & Racial Injustice." Immediately following the initial post-George Floyd protests and rioting, a Rice Black Student group created and submitted a list of approximately 20 demands to the university, including 1) the removal of Willy's statue, 2) the building of an on campus "Black House" - similar in size to the residential colleges, to be used only by black students for events and socializing, 3) implementation of mandatory diversity training for all professors, counselors, students, etc., 4) an increase in percentage of black students, professors, counselors, etc., 5) a cutting of all ties with the Houston Police Department and reducing the amount of RUPD presence on campus, 6) that a continuous monetary investment be made by Rice to the Third Ward, etc. In the weeks and months the followed, many of the Rice athletes participated in some form of BLM protests, such as 1) the football team marching in unison to conduct a formal protest in the main quad, 2) basketball team members wearing BLM warmup jerseys last year, 3) soccer team members kneeling during the national anthem (Note: I never witnessed this myself - another poster mentioned this had occurred at women's soccer games this year).

Not surprisingly, throughout all this, the university leadership has maintained a strong, left-leaning public stance on these issues. A committee was formed to look into this list of demands, and my understanding is that their resulting report indicated that most of the black student demands will be met, including removal of Willy's statue. However, none of us have heard any news as to the University's final decision on these issues - most importantly, the decision on whether Willy's statue will in fact be removed. After witnessing other universities and cities bowing to the cancel culture movement, and knowing the political leanings of the current Rice administration, most of us feel it is just a matter of time before a final decision is made to remove the statue (and perhaps change the name of the university?). Because of their disagreement with the cancel culture movement, many Rice athletic supporters have decided to stop attending Rice sporting events and have ended their financial relationship with Rice - including most of my friends and I, who have been attending Rice football, basketball, and baseball sporting events together for the last 30 years.

In my view, Leebron should have announced the university's path-forward decision on all these issues by now - why has that not been the case? Meanwhile, many of Rice's most die-hard sports fans continue to boycott the games and have stopped donating any money to the Owl Club and Annual Fund.

I am really hoping the new President will be an alumni uniter, and not a divider like our current President. Here's a good compromise for him to implement: Keep the statue as is, but add other statues in the quad honoring the first black students, former Rice Nobel Prize winners, etc. Am I being naive? Is a reasonable compromise like that too much to hope for?

??? First off, the report did not indicate that most of the demands would be met. It's clear you never read the report. And regarding Willy's statue, I know as a fact that no decision has been reached at this time. Second, stop exaggerating the impact on support of Rice and Rice athletics. While it's true that SOME have responded by withholding funding and stopping attending games, almost all of those doing so were not major donors...and it certainly was not the MANY of the most die hard supporters you allude to.

BTW, do tell how Leebron has been an "alumni divider"?
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Just curious: How long has Rice had a Provost position? Is it a permanent position, or was it created for Reginald Desroches?
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(11-12-2021 10:26 AM)grol Wrote:  Just curious: How long has Rice had a Provost position? Is it a permanent position, or was it created for Reginald Desroches?

The Provost position has been there for quite some time-- at least since the 1990s...and before that I believe it was called Dean of Undergraduate Affairs (when we had a much smaller graduate student base and no professional schools). All the university deans report into the Provost. John Hutchinson held it for many years before Desroches.
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(11-12-2021 10:10 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 09:56 AM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 12:47 AM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote:  
(11-11-2021 10:34 PM)Baconator Wrote:  Does anybody know what his position is on removing Willy’s Statue?

what's the debate around the statue?

Well, if you dare venture into The Quad, you can read about the issue in detail in the thread titled "Founder's Memorial Update - Task Force on Slavery, Segregation, & Racial Injustice." Immediately following the initial post-George Floyd protests and rioting, a Rice Black Student group created and submitted a list of approximately 20 demands to the university, including 1) the removal of Willy's statue, 2) the building of an on campus "Black House" - similar in size to the residential colleges, to be used only by black students for events and socializing, 3) implementation of mandatory diversity training for all professors, counselors, students, etc., 4) an increase in percentage of black students, professors, counselors, etc., 5) a cutting of all ties with the Houston Police Department and reducing the amount of RUPD presence on campus, 6) that a continuous monetary investment be made by Rice to the Third Ward, etc. In the weeks and months the followed, many of the Rice athletes participated in some form of BLM protests, such as 1) the football team marching in unison to conduct a formal protest in the main quad, 2) basketball team members wearing BLM warmup jerseys last year, 3) soccer team members kneeling during the national anthem (Note: I never witnessed this myself - another poster mentioned this had occurred at women's soccer games this year).

Not surprisingly, throughout all this, the university leadership has maintained a strong, left-leaning public stance on these issues. A committee was formed to look into this list of demands, and my understanding is that their resulting report indicated that most of the black student demands will be met, including removal of Willy's statue. However, none of us have heard any news as to the University's final decision on these issues - most importantly, the decision on whether Willy's statue will in fact be removed. After witnessing other universities and cities bowing to the cancel culture movement, and knowing the political leanings of the current Rice administration, most of us feel it is just a matter of time before a final decision is made to remove the statue (and perhaps change the name of the university?). Because of their disagreement with the cancel culture movement, many Rice athletic supporters have decided to stop attending Rice sporting events and have ended their financial relationship with Rice - including most of my friends and I, who have been attending Rice football, basketball, and baseball sporting events together for the last 30 years.

In my view, Leebron should have announced the university's path-forward decision on all these issues by now - why has that not been the case? Meanwhile, many of Rice's most die-hard sports fans continue to boycott the games and have stopped donating any money to the Owl Club and Annual Fund.

I am really hoping the new President will be an alumni uniter, and not a divider like our current President. Here's a good compromise for him to implement: Keep the statue as is, but add other statues in the quad honoring the first black students, former Rice Nobel Prize winners, etc. Am I being naive? Is a reasonable compromise like that too much to hope for?

??? First off, the report did not indicate that most of the demands would be met. It's clear you never read the report. And regarding Willy's statue, I know as a fact that no decision has been reached at this time. Second, stop exaggerating the impact on support of Rice and Rice athletics. While it's true that SOME have responded by withholding funding and stopping attending games, almost all of those doing so were not major donors...and it certainly was not the MANY of the most die hard supporters you allude to.

BTW, do tell how Leebron has been an "alumni divider"?

Our Athletics department doesn’t have the margin of error to be losing ANY donors.

Even if we lost 10 donors who averaged $1000/year each in contributions, that means one team’s road game accommodations will be slightly less convenient, an athletic trainer will not be allowed to do overtime in the off season (actual example for football under Bailiff), etc.
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(11-12-2021 10:30 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 10:26 AM)grol Wrote:  Just curious: How long has Rice had a Provost position? Is it a permanent position, or was it created for Reginald Desroches?

The Provost position has been there for quite some time-- at least since the 1990s...and before that I believe it was called Dean of Undergraduate Affairs (when we had a much smaller graduate student base and no professional schools). All the university deans report into the Provost. John Hutchinson held it for many years before Desroches.

No, Marie Lynn Miranda preceded DesRoches as provost.

Hutchinson was replaced by Bridget Gorman as Dean of Undergraduates.
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(11-12-2021 09:56 AM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  Meanwhile, many of Rice's most die-hard sports fans continue to boycott the games and have stopped donating any money to the Owl Club and Annual Fund.

close-enough description of me. Although current events athletically and academically did not figure into my decisions, they do make it harder for Rice to get me to reverse them.

But I remain a die-hard Rice sports fan, just as I have been since 1963.
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(11-12-2021 09:56 AM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  After witnessing other universities and cities bowing to the cancel culture movement, and knowing the political leanings of the current Rice administration, most of us feel it is just a matter of time before a final decision is made to remove the statue (and perhaps change the name of the university?). Because of their disagreement with the cancel culture movement, many Rice athletic supporters have decided to stop attending Rice sporting events and have ended their financial relationship with Rice - including most of my friends and I, who have been attending Rice football, basketball, and baseball sporting events together for the last 30 years.

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(11-12-2021 11:02 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 10:30 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 10:26 AM)grol Wrote:  Just curious: How long has Rice had a Provost position? Is it a permanent position, or was it created for Reginald Desroches?

The Provost position has been there for quite some time-- at least since the 1990s...and before that I believe it was called Dean of Undergraduate Affairs (when we had a much smaller graduate student base and no professional schools). All the university deans report into the Provost. John Hutchinson held it for many years before Desroches.

No, Marie Lynn Miranda preceded DesRoches as provost.

Hutchinson was replaced by Bridget Gorman as Dean of Undergraduates.

The provost position has existed for most of Rice's history. At Rice as at most universities, it is generally considered the #2 post in the university, and is often co-titled Vice President for Academic Affairs. Under him are four vice provosts (one of whom is the University Librarian) and all the deans. Previous illustrious provosts that I remember include Gene Levy and the great Neal Lane.
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(11-12-2021 11:02 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 10:30 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 10:26 AM)grol Wrote:  Just curious: How long has Rice had a Provost position? Is it a permanent position, or was it created for Reginald Desroches?

The Provost position has been there for quite some time-- at least since the 1990s...and before that I believe it was called Dean of Undergraduate Affairs (when we had a much smaller graduate student base and no professional schools). All the university deans report into the Provost. John Hutchinson held it for many years before Desroches.

No, Marie Lynn Miranda preceded DesRoches as provost.

Hutchinson was replaced by Bridget Gorman as Dean of Undergraduates.

DesRoches was Rice's 13th Provost, counting the "acting" and "interim" ones (such as Seiichi Matsuda, who served as the Interim Provost between Miranda and DesRoches).

Carey Croneis was Rice's first Provost, appointed in 1954.

Here's a list of them all, with links to biographical info on each: https://digitalprojects.rice.edu/wrc/pre...s/provosts
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(11-12-2021 11:39 AM)mrbig Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 09:56 AM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  After witnessing other universities and cities bowing to the cancel culture movement, and knowing the political leanings of the current Rice administration, most of us feel it is just a matter of time before a final decision is made to remove the statue (and perhaps change the name of the university?). Because of their disagreement with the cancel culture movement, many Rice athletic supporters have decided to stop attending Rice sporting events and have ended their financial relationship with Rice - including most of my friends and I, who have been attending Rice football, basketball, and baseball sporting events together for the last 30 years.

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Yep. Hoisting the cancel culture movement on its own petard.
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(11-12-2021 11:39 AM)mrbig Wrote:  
(11-12-2021 09:56 AM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  After witnessing other universities and cities bowing to the cancel culture movement, and knowing the political leanings of the current Rice administration, most of us feel it is just a matter of time before a final decision is made to remove the statue (and perhaps change the name of the university?). Because of their disagreement with the cancel culture movement, many Rice athletic supporters have decided to stop attending Rice sporting events and have ended their financial relationship with Rice - including most of my friends and I, who have been attending Rice football, basketball, and baseball sporting events together for the last 30 years.

People protest cancel culture movement by embracing cancel culture movement. 07-coffee3

Big difference between cancelling and choosing not to support.
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Guys. Please clean up the posts or I'll have to split it to the quad. It's cumbersome and I don't want to do it. Someone asked the debate over the statue, that has generally been answered... including a bit of the debate.
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(11-12-2021 03:03 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  Thanks, That is encouraging, but don't know if support of a sport w true student athletes( such as soccer) translates into the kind of support necessary to make FB, or MBB( where the successful programs are not so likely to have true students) relevant. I hope so.

That's where his experience at Berkeley, GT and with the ACC come in.

(11-12-2021 08:28 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I saw a few Rice student athletes twitter feeds who seemed genuinely happy that he was named the new President. I suspect that he's been a helpful influence behind the scenes for our minority athletes (and probably not just the minority athletes) the past couple of years.

This, and yes... not just the minority athletes. He's about as inclusive a person as you can find, but he certainly understands that athletics is often the ticket 'up' for many students, often but not always minorities. In these cases, not simply to an education... but to a TOP 20 education, without having to sacrifice athletics competition at the highest levels... which is what got a lot of these people to where they are in the first place.
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