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RE: MSNBC: Inflation a Good Thing
Majority of Voters Blame Biden for Surging Inflation


Quote:A majority of voters blame President Biden for rising inflation, according to a YouGov/Yahoo News poll released on Tuesday.

When asked about the causes of inflation, 80 percent of respondents said disruptions caused by the coronavirus pandemic played a roll. However, 57 percent also blamed the president for rising inflation, with 39 percent of those saying Biden shared “a great deal” of blame and 18 percent saying “some” of the blame.

Consumer prices rose 6.2 percent in October 2021 compared with the same month in 2020, the highest increase since November 1990. The increase includes a 59.1 percent jump in fuel prices over the previous year, and a 5.4 percent rise in food prices over the same period.

While more Republicans blame Biden for inflation than Democrats, respondents across the political spectrum said inflation had affected their lives. Among Democrats, 69 percent said inflation has affected their lives, compared with 79 percent of Independents and 90 percent of Republicans.

Voters are also worried about supply shortages, with 46 percent of Democrats and 60 percent of Republicans saying they were worried about the effects of shortages on holiday purchases.

Meanwhile, only 18 percent of all respondents said Biden was doing enough to address inflation.

The YouGov/Yahoo News poll was conducted from November 17-19 in online interviews of 1,696 American adults, with a margin of error of 2.6 percentage points.

The poll was released as the president’s approval rating continues to fall, in a slide that appears to have accelerated since the end of July. Biden’s approval rating stood at 41.3 percent, with 53.4 percent disapproval, in the RealClearPolitics polling average on Wednesday.

Biden received a 42 percent approval rating in an NPR/Marist poll released Wednesday, the lowest rating in that survey since the president assumed office.

“Regardless of strong job numbers or the soaring stock market, Americans are worried about the economy and the reason is inflation,” Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion, said in a statement.
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(11-24-2021 04:45 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  “Shenanigans” the last few years?

Such as what? The Sloe* Biden rule?

To your other note above, you’re kidding on the “Republican refusal to separate Church and State” statement, right?

Who ACTUALLY campaigns IN Churches? Holds fundraisers? Have Ministers endorsing candidates all over the place and actively campaigning for them?

It ain a bunch of Lutherans or Presbyterians.

What matters is the type of legislation they are pushing and whether it violates the basic democratic principle of the separation of church and state. If you don't understand the importance of this to a democracy, you should google up on it.

(11-24-2021 08:40 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  If you understand the meaning of authoritarian then you are voting for it by voting democrat. To say otherwise ignores the obvious.

Compare Gore to Trump on how they handle defeat. Nothing more needs to be said. The Gore outcome 20 years ago is actually when I officially declared it's impossible to vote Republican for any federal office until Dems control the Supreme Court, for the sake of democracy. And here 20 years later my fears are proving to be more than justified.
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(11-23-2021 11:38 PM)scorpius Wrote:  It just appears that way because I usually debate from the left because it's more entertaining on a message board 95% conservative. I could easily switch sides and be just as convincing.

Scorp, this means you're a troll. you're throwing ^&!*$ against the wall to see if you can get into an argument just for the sake of arguing.

i agree the board is much more interesting when there are multiple viewpoints, and i appreciate those on the left who can espouse the democrat narrative or more left wing viewpoints from a reasonable perspective.

If you are not actually stating what you believe, without disclosing that you're just putting an alternative viewpoint out for discussion, then you're trolling.

i know you troll for debate, you constantly shift the point of the thread and even your position just to keep it going, but in the end you're a leftist. you may be able to "debate" from the other side, we all could. but you don't because you don't believe it.

Oh... and on a side note, you rarely debate "convincingly" - although as i've mentioned i do enjoy your technology viewpoints.

i do hope your Thanksgiving weekend has been and will be enjoyable.
11-26-2021 09:59 AM
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(11-26-2021 09:59 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 11:38 PM)scorpius Wrote:  It just appears that way because I usually debate from the left because it's more entertaining on a message board 95% conservative. I could easily switch sides and be just as convincing.

Scorp, this means you're a troll. you're throwing ^&!*$ against the wall to see if you can get into an argument just for the sake of arguing.

i agree the board is much more interesting when there are multiple viewpoints, and i appreciate those on the left who can espouse the democrat narrative or more left wing viewpoints from a reasonable perspective.

If you are not actually stating what you believe, without disclosing that you're just putting an alternative viewpoint out for discussion, then you're trolling.

i know you troll for debate, you constantly shift the point of the thread and even your position just to keep it going, but in the end you're a leftist. you may be able to "debate" from the other side, we all could. but you don't because you don't believe it.

Oh... and on a side note, you rarely debate "convincingly" - although as i've mentioned i do enjoy your technology viewpoints.

i do hope your Thanksgiving weekend has been and will be enjoyable.

When I debate something using a certain argument it means I believe in that argument on some level. And the point of mentioning it is to get other people's viewpoints to either 1) reinforce my opinion 2) perhaps alter my opinion.

Admitting you can alter your opinion based on new information is what most people on here can not do. They are too brainwashed to even open themselves to the fact they might be wrong. I have been wrong many times and view it as a positive when I realize it and can improve my own viewpoint over it.

When I mentioned entertainment I simply meant that it's easier to make an entertaining argument when it's against the grain. Like for example that "easter egg" I added earlier about food stamps which was very anti-liberal. It's all stuff I believe in on some level. I just lean towards the most entertaining to mention.

So for these reasons I would disagree I'm trolling. Just simply trying to be entertaining while debating doesn't make someone a troll. I have better things to do than to cause problems on message boards.
11-26-2021 06:08 PM
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(11-24-2021 10:03 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  CBO: Democrats’ Spending Spree Will Make Inflation Even Worse For Years

Quote:So much for fiscal responsibility. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score of Democrats’ “Build Back Bankrupt” spending spree didn’t stop the House of Representatives from passing the legislation last Friday.

Ironically, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-California, did more to delay the vote on the bill, speaking on the House floor for more than eight hours Thursday night and postponing the vote on House passage until Friday morning. But lawmakers who claim to care about our nation’s rapidly growing pile of debt, like Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.V. and Kyrsten Sinema, D-Arizona, should review the CBO analysis in detail.

Unlike its “score” of many other bills, the budget office did not release a textual narrative describing the legislation’s fiscal impact—at least, not yet. But even the series of spreadsheets CBO has thus far published demonstrate the dangerous impact of Democrats’ sprint towards socialism.

Raises the Deficit
The summary table shows that the bill will increase the deficit by $367 billion over its first ten years. While budgetary scorekeeping provisions prohibit CBO from using new revenue from tax enforcement to offset the bill’s deficit impact, the budget office predicts $207 billion of revenue from increased audits and other IRS-related activities.

The White House claims that Treasury will generate more revenue from tax enforcement than CBO projects, erasing the supposed deficit impact of $160 billion ($367 billion total deficit minus $207 billion from IRS enforcement). But the fact that the IRS has yet to audit Joe Biden’s taxes speaks to the falsity of this assertion. Moreover, the other gimmicks and tricks included in the bill far outweigh a deficit impact of “only” $367 billion, or even $160 billion.

Raises Inflation
As expected, CBO projected the bill will raise federal deficits—and thus inflation—in the short and medium term. In fact, the bill will exacerbate inflation within mere months. Consider the net fiscal impact by fiscal year:

Fiscal Year 2022 (now through next September 30): $155.1 billion deficit
Fiscal Year 2023 (starts next October 1): $161.1 billion deficit
Fiscal Year 2024: $147.2 billion deficit
Fiscal Year 2025: $209.3 billion deficit
Fiscal Year 2026: $119 billion deficit

All told, the bill will increase deficits by $791.6 billion in its first five years. Only in Fiscal Year 2027 and thereafter will the bill reduce the deficit—at least on paper.

That means that, over the next few years, the gusher of federal spending will continue, on top of the more than $5 trillion in “stimulus” spending Congress has approved since COVID first hit last spring, along with the trillions of dollars the Federal Reserve has printed over the same period as part of its quantitative easing program.

Budget Gimmicks Galore
The CBO tables reveal the many tricks Democrats have employed to disguise the full amount of the bill’s spending. To use but one example, CBO claimed that increased Obamacare subsidies would cost $57 billion—$43.8 billion in government spending (i.e., payments to people who have no income tax liability), and an additional $13.2 billion in reduced revenues.

But a CBO analysis from last year found that increased subsidies would cost $212.4 billion, or nearly three times as much as this year’s estimate. Why the much lower financial impact?

Simple: The Democratic bill would extend the subsidies for three years only—2023, 2024, and 2025. Of course, the left has no interest in letting the subsidies expire at the end of 2025. The early cut-off instead just serves to lower the bill’s upfront cost, and make the bill seem less expensive, and less radical, than it is.

Most of the bill’s major entitlements operate on this premise: The pre-K and child care programs; the Obamacare subsidies; and the child welfare credit, which the bill would extend for next year only. Little wonder then that the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget said the House-passed measure’s true long-term cost lies at nearly $5 trillion—roughly double the $2.4 trillion estimate for the bill as written.

Tax Increases Ahead
One could easily summarize the CBO tables, and the bill in general, with five simple words: “Hold on to your wallet.” Democrats claim that only “the rich” will pay for the bill’s spending spree, but the $2.4 trillion cost of the bill as written represents only a fraction of the revenue needed to fund the left’s socialist paradise. To even hope of paying for all this spending, taxes will have to sharply rise on every single American.

Economist Herbert Stein famously noted that unsustainable trends are in the long run unsustainable. That maxim applies as much to the notion that middle-class families can get all these new programs “for free” as it does to the fact that America’s creditors may soon weary of funding the $29 trillion (and counting) in debt to pay for them.

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(11-26-2021 06:08 PM)scorpius Wrote:  
(11-26-2021 09:59 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 11:38 PM)scorpius Wrote:  It just appears that way because I usually debate from the left because it's more entertaining on a message board 95% conservative. I could easily switch sides and be just as convincing.

Scorp, this means you're a troll. you're throwing ^&!*$ against the wall to see if you can get into an argument just for the sake of arguing.

i agree the board is much more interesting when there are multiple viewpoints, and i appreciate those on the left who can espouse the democrat narrative or more left wing viewpoints from a reasonable perspective.

If you are not actually stating what you believe, without disclosing that you're just putting an alternative viewpoint out for discussion, then you're trolling.

i know you troll for debate, you constantly shift the point of the thread and even your position just to keep it going, but in the end you're a leftist. you may be able to "debate" from the other side, we all could. but you don't because you don't believe it.

Oh... and on a side note, you rarely debate "convincingly" - although as i've mentioned i do enjoy your technology viewpoints.

i do hope your Thanksgiving weekend has been and will be enjoyable.

When I debate something using a certain argument it means I believe in that argument on some level. And the point of mentioning it is to get other people's viewpoints to either 1) reinforce my opinion 2) perhaps alter my opinion.

Admitting you can alter your opinion based on new information is what most people on here can not do. They are too brainwashed to even open themselves to the fact they might be wrong. I have been wrong many times and view it as a positive when I realize it and can improve my own viewpoint over it.

When I mentioned entertainment I simply meant that it's easier to make an entertaining argument when it's against the grain. Like for example that "easter egg" I added earlier about food stamps which was very anti-liberal. It's all stuff I believe in on some level. I just lean towards the most entertaining to mention.

So for these reasons I would disagree I'm trolling. Just simply trying to be entertaining while debating doesn't make someone a troll. I have better things to do than to cause problems on message boards.

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(11-26-2021 06:08 PM)scorpius Wrote:  
(11-26-2021 09:59 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 11:38 PM)scorpius Wrote:  It just appears that way because I usually debate from the left because it's more entertaining on a message board 95% conservative. I could easily switch sides and be just as convincing.

Scorp, this means you're a troll. you're throwing ^&!*$ against the wall to see if you can get into an argument just for the sake of arguing.

i agree the board is much more interesting when there are multiple viewpoints, and i appreciate those on the left who can espouse the democrat narrative or more left wing viewpoints from a reasonable perspective.

If you are not actually stating what you believe, without disclosing that you're just putting an alternative viewpoint out for discussion, then you're trolling.

i know you troll for debate, you constantly shift the point of the thread and even your position just to keep it going, but in the end you're a leftist. you may be able to "debate" from the other side, we all could. but you don't because you don't believe it.

Oh... and on a side note, you rarely debate "convincingly" - although as i've mentioned i do enjoy your technology viewpoints.

i do hope your Thanksgiving weekend has been and will be enjoyable.

When I debate something using a certain argument it means I believe in that argument on some level. And the point of mentioning it is to get other people's viewpoints to either 1) reinforce my opinion 2) perhaps alter my opinion.

Admitting you can alter your opinion based on new information is what most people on here can not do. They are too brainwashed to even open themselves to the fact they might be wrong. I have been wrong many times and view it as a positive when I realize it and can improve my own viewpoint over it.

When I mentioned entertainment I simply meant that it's easier to make an entertaining argument when it's against the grain. Like for example that "easter egg" I added earlier about food stamps which was very anti-liberal. It's all stuff I believe in on some level. I just lean towards the most entertaining to mention.

So for these reasons I would disagree I'm trolling. Just simply trying to be entertaining while debating doesn't make someone a troll. I have better things to do than to cause problems on message boards.

The only folks brainwashed are those in your corner. From cancel culture to complete blind adherence to the Regressive filth that spews from your think tank. Heck, leftists even cry and need counseling when people don't vote in their spiritual leaders. Lackeys are not allowed to think. Read Orwell and what you will see are the Democratic party playing their part. But, since you have been demoralized you can no longer acknowledge the truth even when it is obvious because it destroys all of your ill conceived thinking on what you have been led to believe from your Marxist educators. The really sad part for yourself and those who live in the same world as yourself is what will be waiting for you when you pass through this life.
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(11-26-2021 10:39 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  The only folks brainwashed are those in your corner. From cancel culture to complete blind adherence to the Regressive filth that spews from your think tank. Heck, leftists even cry and need counseling when people don't vote in their spiritual leaders. Lackeys are not allowed to think. Read Orwell and what you will see are the Democratic party playing their part. But, since you have been demoralized you can no longer acknowledge the truth even when it is obvious because it destroys all of your ill conceived thinking on what you have been led to believe from your Marxist educators. The really sad part for yourself and those who live in the same world as yourself is what will be waiting for you when you pass through this life.

I'm not the bad guy here. I just don't see much of a difference between insanity and unchecked blind faith, regardless of it's form. So view me as the one who tries to restore sanity by presenting the opposing viewpoint. Simple as that.
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