If Lunardi had a job that paid him what he was worth, he'd be the only one picketing along with those demanding a living wage, begging to be paid minimum wage

And let's cut Bilas some slack. He's missing his dukedom dude.

(11-09-2021 11:12 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:29 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:33 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:10 AM)OldFan Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...redictions

The usual four (Myron Medcalf, Jeff Borzello, John Gasaway and Joe Lunardi) discussed this question:

"The Memphis Tigers are ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, which identifies them as a second-weekend NCAA tournament team. Are you buying or selling Memphis in the Sweet 16?"

The first three are buyers with very nice things to say about the Tigers. But as usual, Lunardi is down on the team. His comment: "Once again, an incredibly hyped Memphis team is expecting to be among the last standing in March. Haven't we seen this movie before? And didn't the last one end in the relative obscurity of Frisco, Texas? Sorry to be the contrarian."

Lunardi even has the wrong year. The NIT was last year. The #1 recruiting class and Penny's claim to win a National Championship was 2 years earlier. We did go to the NIT that year but it wasn't in Frisco, TX. It was at Madison Square Garden. Of course, we lost at Creighton.

Inaccurate soundbite shall be referred to as a Lunardi from here on.

Uh the last time we had the number 1 recruiting class nobody went anywhere. Covid ended the season for everyone.

Yep. To get the timeline straight:

2018-19
Recruiting Ranking #30
Loss to Creighton in 2019 NIT
Final Record 22-14

2019-20
Recruiting Ranking #1
NIT and NCAA tourneys cancelled due to COVID
Final Record 21-10

2020-21
Recruiting Ranking #24
Won 2021 NIT Tournament
Final Record 20-8 (notice a trend with our losses?)

2021-22
Recruiting Ranking #1

Sources:
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basket...mRankings/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Me...tball_team

Last time we had the #1 class the #1 player only played 3 games, the #4 player missed a bunch of games at the end of the year and Isaiah Maurice was our only upper classman.

We ain't never had a shining moment like this in our BB history, imo. NObody has.

Consider the experience of Larry Brown + our NBA experienced coaches ...the focus of our program....our recruiting class, very carefully hand picked.....the upper classmen ready to rock and roll the place...

It's just too much for the old media dudes and the folks who rank teams to wrap their heads around lol

(11-09-2021 12:12 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  We ain't never had a shining moment like this in our BB history, imo. NObody has.

Consider the experience of Larry Brown + our NBA experienced coaches ...the focus of our program....our recruiting class, very carefully hand picked.....the upper classmen ready to rock and roll the place...

It's just too much for the old media dudes and the folks who rank teams to wrap their heads around lol

just have to go out and do to AL and TN what the 2008 Tigers did to Texas and MiSt.
No pundits picked us then either.

(11-09-2021 11:20 AM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  If Lunardi had a job that paid him what he was worth, he'd be the only one picketing along with those demanding a living wage, begging to be paid minimum wage

Lol

(11-08-2021 11:56 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 01:43 PM)yakko Wrote:  we need to just play and not let up when we get big leads. Just approach each game with the goal of blowing everyone out if we can.

The goal is not to blow some one out! The goal is to win. That means taking care of the ball, unselfish play, and defense very tough defense. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. However, to shut up the people like Lunardi we have no margin of error and must convincingly win every game.

(11-09-2021 02:32 PM)yakko Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 11:56 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 01:43 PM)yakko Wrote:  we need to just play and not let up when we get big leads. Just approach each game with the goal of blowing everyone out if we can.

The goal is not to blow some one out! The goal is to win. That means taking care of the ball, unselfish play, and defense very tough defense. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. However, to shut up the people like Lunardi we have no margin of error and must convincingly win every game.

Yeah, we have to be more than perfect.

(11-09-2021 02:39 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:32 PM)yakko Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 11:56 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 01:43 PM)yakko Wrote:  we need to just play and not let up when we get big leads. Just approach each game with the goal of blowing everyone out if we can.

The goal is not to blow some one out! The goal is to win. That means taking care of the ball, unselfish play, and defense very tough defense. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. However, to shut up the people like Lunardi we have no margin of error and must convincingly win every game.

Yeah, we have to be more than perfect.

Yep... Look at Cincy. No losses, and they get dinged for not beating teams by enough. Then Bama sneaks by LSU and everyone looks the other way.

(11-09-2021 04:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:39 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:32 PM)yakko Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 11:56 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 01:43 PM)yakko Wrote:  we need to just play and not let up when we get big leads. Just approach each game with the goal of blowing everyone out if we can.

The goal is not to blow some one out! The goal is to win. That means taking care of the ball, unselfish play, and defense very tough defense. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. However, to shut up the people like Lunardi we have no margin of error and must convincingly win every game.

Yeah, we have to be more than perfect.

Yep... Look at Cincy. No losses, and they get dinged for not beating teams by enough. Then Bama sneaks by LSU and everyone looks the other way.

What’s worse is there are analysts now talking up ND for the playoff, if they finish with only 1 loss…

(11-10-2021 08:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:39 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:32 PM)yakko Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 11:56 PM)Keeper Wrote:  The goal is not to blow some one out! The goal is to win. That means taking care of the ball, unselfish play, and defense very tough defense. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. However, to shut up the people like Lunardi we have no margin of error and must convincingly win every game.

Yeah, we have to be more than perfect.

Yep... Look at Cincy. No losses, and they get dinged for not beating teams by enough. Then Bama sneaks by LSU and everyone looks the other way.

What’s worse is there are analysts now talking up ND for the playoff, if they finish with only 1 loss…

“Everybody knows the fight was fixed,
The poor stay poor and the rich stay rich.
That’s how it goes.
Everybody knows.”-Don Henley

(11-09-2021 11:53 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 11:12 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:29 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:33 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:10 AM)OldFan Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...redictions

The usual four (Myron Medcalf, Jeff Borzello, John Gasaway and Joe Lunardi) discussed this question:

"The Memphis Tigers are ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, which identifies them as a second-weekend NCAA tournament team. Are you buying or selling Memphis in the Sweet 16?"

The first three are buyers with very nice things to say about the Tigers. But as usual, Lunardi is down on the team. His comment: "Once again, an incredibly hyped Memphis team is expecting to be among the last standing in March. Haven't we seen this movie before? And didn't the last one end in the relative obscurity of Frisco, Texas? Sorry to be the contrarian."

Lunardi even has the wrong year. The NIT was last year. The #1 recruiting class and Penny's claim to win a National Championship was 2 years earlier. We did go to the NIT that year but it wasn't in Frisco, TX. It was at Madison Square Garden. Of course, we lost at Creighton.

Inaccurate soundbite shall be referred to as a Lunardi from here on.

Uh the last time we had the number 1 recruiting class nobody went anywhere. Covid ended the season for everyone.

Yep. To get the timeline straight:

2018-19
Recruiting Ranking #30
Loss to Creighton in 2019 NIT
Final Record 22-14

2019-20
Recruiting Ranking #1
NIT and NCAA tourneys cancelled due to COVID
Final Record 21-10

2020-21
Recruiting Ranking #24
Won 2021 NIT Tournament
Final Record 20-8 (notice a trend with our losses?)

2021-22
Recruiting Ranking #1

Sources:
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basket...mRankings/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Me...tball_team

Last time we had the #1 class the #1 player only played 3 games, the #4 player missed a bunch of games at the end of the year and Isaiah Maurice was our only upper classman.

The #4 player on the team...

Is that Q or DJ.

Because if it was the #4 player in the class I guess Precious was close to that...He didn't miss any.

(11-09-2021 02:39 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:32 PM)yakko Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 11:56 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 01:43 PM)yakko Wrote:  we need to just play and not let up when we get big leads. Just approach each game with the goal of blowing everyone out if we can.

The goal is not to blow some one out! The goal is to win. That means taking care of the ball, unselfish play, and defense very tough defense. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. However, to shut up the people like Lunardi we have no margin of error and must convincingly win every game.

Yeah, we have to be more than perfect.

Pffft...No we don't

Just win the last 6

(11-10-2021 08:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:39 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 02:32 PM)yakko Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 11:56 PM)Keeper Wrote:  The goal is not to blow some one out! The goal is to win. That means taking care of the ball, unselfish play, and defense very tough defense. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. However, to shut up the people like Lunardi we have no margin of error and must convincingly win every game.

Yeah, we have to be more than perfect.

Yep... Look at Cincy. No losses, and they get dinged for not beating teams by enough. Then Bama sneaks by LSU and everyone looks the other way.

What’s worse is there are analysts now talking up ND for the playoff, if they finish with only 1 loss…

At least you have a chance in hoops. Gotta win it on the court instead of a conference room.

(11-08-2021 10:41 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Penny needs to win the early games & shut these folks up. Laying an egg early and then catching fire in conference will land this team in the NIT & make Lunardi again come off as a wise sage.
Bottom line is we have not lived up to our talent, but this is the year it changes.

Looks like Lunardi was right…

(12-02-2021 10:10 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:41 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Penny needs to win the early games & shut these folks up. Laying an egg early and then catching fire in conference will land this team in the NIT & make Lunardi again come off as a wise sage.
Bottom line is we have not lived up to our talent, but this is the year it changes.

Looks like Lunardi was right…

That’s why he’s on ESPN and not some school message board.

(11-09-2021 11:12 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:29 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:33 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:10 AM)OldFan Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...redictions

The usual four (Myron Medcalf, Jeff Borzello, John Gasaway and Joe Lunardi) discussed this question:

"The Memphis Tigers are ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, which identifies them as a second-weekend NCAA tournament team. Are you buying or selling Memphis in the Sweet 16?"

The first three are buyers with very nice things to say about the Tigers. But as usual, Lunardi is down on the team. His comment: "Once again, an incredibly hyped Memphis team is expecting to be among the last standing in March. Haven't we seen this movie before? And didn't the last one end in the relative obscurity of Frisco, Texas? Sorry to be the contrarian."

Lunardi even has the wrong year. The NIT was last year. The #1 recruiting class and Penny's claim to win a National Championship was 2 years earlier. We did go to the NIT that year but it wasn't in Frisco, TX. It was at Madison Square Garden. Of course, we lost at Creighton.

Inaccurate soundbite shall be referred to as a Lunardi from here on.

Uh the last time we had the number 1 recruiting class nobody went anywhere. Covid ended the season for everyone.

Yep. To get the timeline straight:

2018-19
Recruiting Ranking #30
Loss to Creighton in 2019 NIT
Final Record 22-14

2019-20
Recruiting Ranking #1
NIT and NCAA tourneys cancelled due to COVID
Final Record 21-10

2020-21
Recruiting Ranking #24
Won 2021 NIT Tournament
Final Record 20-8 (notice a trend with our losses?)

2021-22
Recruiting Ranking #1

Sources:
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basket...mRankings/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Me...tball_team

The notion that Penny and his teams are not getting better is silly.

(12-02-2021 11:55 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 11:12 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:29 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:33 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:10 AM)OldFan Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...redictions

The usual four (Myron Medcalf, Jeff Borzello, John Gasaway and Joe Lunardi) discussed this question:

"The Memphis Tigers are ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, which identifies them as a second-weekend NCAA tournament team. Are you buying or selling Memphis in the Sweet 16?"

The first three are buyers with very nice things to say about the Tigers. But as usual, Lunardi is down on the team. His comment: "Once again, an incredibly hyped Memphis team is expecting to be among the last standing in March. Haven't we seen this movie before? And didn't the last one end in the relative obscurity of Frisco, Texas? Sorry to be the contrarian."

Lunardi even has the wrong year. The NIT was last year. The #1 recruiting class and Penny's claim to win a National Championship was 2 years earlier. We did go to the NIT that year but it wasn't in Frisco, TX. It was at Madison Square Garden. Of course, we lost at Creighton.

Inaccurate soundbite shall be referred to as a Lunardi from here on.

Uh the last time we had the number 1 recruiting class nobody went anywhere. Covid ended the season for everyone.

Yep. To get the timeline straight:

2018-19
Recruiting Ranking #30
Loss to Creighton in 2019 NIT
Final Record 22-14

2019-20
Recruiting Ranking #1
NIT and NCAA tourneys cancelled due to COVID
Final Record 21-10

2020-21
Recruiting Ranking #24
Won 2021 NIT Tournament
Final Record 20-8 (notice a trend with our losses?)

2021-22
Recruiting Ranking #1

Sources:
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basket...mRankings/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Me...tball_team

The notion that Penny and his teams are not getting better is silly.

They are getting better due to better talent and more experienced players but still incredibly disorganized.

(12-03-2021 01:29 AM)dwash Wrote:  

(12-02-2021 11:55 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 11:12 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:29 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:33 AM)mairving Wrote:  Lunardi even has the wrong year. The NIT was last year. The #1 recruiting class and Penny's claim to win a National Championship was 2 years earlier. We did go to the NIT that year but it wasn't in Frisco, TX. It was at Madison Square Garden. Of course, we lost at Creighton.

Inaccurate soundbite shall be referred to as a Lunardi from here on.

Uh the last time we had the number 1 recruiting class nobody went anywhere. Covid ended the season for everyone.

Yep. To get the timeline straight:

2018-19
Recruiting Ranking #30
Loss to Creighton in 2019 NIT
Final Record 22-14

2019-20
Recruiting Ranking #1
NIT and NCAA tourneys cancelled due to COVID
Final Record 21-10

2020-21
Recruiting Ranking #24
Won 2021 NIT Tournament
Final Record 20-8 (notice a trend with our losses?)

2021-22
Recruiting Ranking #1

Sources:
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basket...mRankings/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Me...tball_team

The notion that Penny and his teams are not getting better is silly.

They are getting better due to better talent and more experienced players but still incredibly disorganized.

Sure, that is the way it works for a coach... They also have a coach that is learning and making changes much quicker and earlier in the year...

(12-02-2021 10:10 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:41 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Penny needs to win the early games & shut these folks up. Laying an egg early and then catching fire in conference will land this team in the NIT & make Lunardi again come off as a wise sage.
Bottom line is we have not lived up to our talent, but this is the year it changes.

Looks like Lunardi was right…

Link?