WTH, UTEP???

https://brobible.com/sports/article/utep...tsa-truck/


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(11-07-2021 05:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:24 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 04:34 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  It’s not that’s it’s hard to recruit to “New Nexico” (a pet peeve of mine, El Paso is part of Texas, period). The problem is something else which is a topic for another day. If geography was the main reason, then explain Boise State football and Gonzaga basketball. Boise and Spokane are far from any relevant recruiting areas. At least El Paso is right in the middle of the population center of Texas and Southern California. But again, a topic for another day.

That's rare though. Theyve built themselves into name brand programs. I'm sure they weren't recruiting the same calibre of recruits before becoming a brand. Now they can, but initially they weren't winning by out-talenting opponents.

I'm not trying to put UTEP or El Paso down. It's just been the reality since I've been following CUSA recruiting. You've always been at the bottom of recruiting rankings by a mile. Rarely ever beat other Texas CUSA schools for recruits. Most of your recruits have no other FBS offers. Barring a Boise St type run (how probable is that) that will continue to be the case because of geography, imo. Thats why I think the KState model is smart for y'all.

Nope. Geography is part of that but it’s not the only reason. If geography was the main reason, Boise State would not have ever elevated their program to a top 25 one. Boise is in a worse part of the country for recruiting purposes than El Paso. But recruits want to go where they can win and in order to do that, you have to invest in paying coaches better. Yes, $750k a year goes a long way in El Paso. A nice house in the Franklin Mountains with a pool is nice. But in today’s landscape, $750k is not going to cut it if you want to move up on the G5 ladder. You won’t attract assistant coaches with $100k either. That’s where the fan base has to make a decision if they want to keep the status quo of having a winning season once or twice a decade or pay more in tickets. The facilities are there, the fan base is there as well. There’s no P5 and pro sports taking away attention from UTEP, in fact, the local media coverage is one I’ve seen in P5 markets and on the G5 level, the MWC. The business community supports the school as well but they can’t do it all by themselves. So the question is, would you pay an extra $5-$10for tickets and attract better coaches with a least $1.5 million salary or just be a program that keeps being left behind since 1998. The basketball program has the history and tradition but again, $750k is not going to cut it either.

As I’ve always stated multiple times on this board and the realignment one, UTEP’s struggles are internal not external. UTSA for example has to deal with UT-Austin being too close, a storied NBA franchise, having too many transplants who bring their allegiance to their new town and a lack of tradition when it comes to following the local FBS team. In El Paso, you’re an automatic fan if you’re born and raised there. It’s not rare if you went to a P5 school and still root for the Miners. Can the average San Antonian say the same? That’s why I can’t emphasize enough when I say it’s a different struggle from the vast majority of G5 schools. I’m not from El Paso and that’s the first thing I learned in my first semester and that’s why I don’t blame other people when they think it’s about geography. Heck, I used to think the same way.

Two paragraphs in, and still have no idea what UTEP's internal struggles are. WTH did I just read?

(11-08-2021 09:39 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:24 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 04:34 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  It’s not that’s it’s hard to recruit to “New Nexico” (a pet peeve of mine, El Paso is part of Texas, period). The problem is something else which is a topic for another day. If geography was the main reason, then explain Boise State football and Gonzaga basketball. Boise and Spokane are far from any relevant recruiting areas. At least El Paso is right in the middle of the population center of Texas and Southern California. But again, a topic for another day.

That's rare though. Theyve built themselves into name brand programs. I'm sure they weren't recruiting the same calibre of recruits before becoming a brand. Now they can, but initially they weren't winning by out-talenting opponents.

I'm not trying to put UTEP or El Paso down. It's just been the reality since I've been following CUSA recruiting. You've always been at the bottom of recruiting rankings by a mile. Rarely ever beat other Texas CUSA schools for recruits. Most of your recruits have no other FBS offers. Barring a Boise St type run (how probable is that) that will continue to be the case because of geography, imo. Thats why I think the KState model is smart for y'all.

Nope. Geography is part of that but it’s not the only reason. If geography was the main reason, Boise State would not have ever elevated their program to a top 25 one. Boise is in a worse part of the country for recruiting purposes than El Paso. But recruits want to go where they can win and in order to do that, you have to invest in paying coaches better. Yes, $750k a year goes a long way in El Paso. A nice house in the Franklin Mountains with a pool is nice. But in today’s landscape, $750k is not going to cut it if you want to move up on the G5 ladder. You won’t attract assistant coaches with $100k either. That’s where the fan base has to make a decision if they want to keep the status quo of having a winning season once or twice a decade or pay more in tickets. The facilities are there, the fan base is there as well. There’s no P5 and pro sports taking away attention from UTEP, in fact, the local media coverage is one I’ve seen in P5 markets and on the G5 level, the MWC. The business community supports the school as well but they can’t do it all by themselves. So the question is, would you pay an extra $5-$10for tickets and attract better coaches with a least $1.5 million salary or just be a program that keeps being left behind since 1998. The basketball program has the history and tradition but again, $750k is not going to cut it either.

As I’ve always stated multiple times on this board and the realignment one, UTEP’s struggles are internal not external. UTSA for example has to deal with UT-Austin being too close, a storied NBA franchise, having too many transplants who bring their allegiance to their new town and a lack of tradition when it comes to following the local FBS team. In El Paso, you’re an automatic fan if you’re born and raised there. It’s not rare if you went to a P5 school and still root for the Miners. Can the average San Antonian say the same? That’s why I can’t emphasize enough when I say it’s a different struggle from the vast majority of G5 schools. I’m not from El Paso and that’s the first thing I learned in my first semester and that’s why I don’t blame other people when they think it’s about geography. Heck, I used to think the same way.

Two paragraphs in, and still have no idea what UTEP's internal struggles are. WTH did I just read?

UTEP has never prioritized football. Historically we've always paid our football coaches the lowest in the conference and among the lowest in the nation.

(11-08-2021 10:09 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 09:39 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:24 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 04:34 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  It’s not that’s it’s hard to recruit to “New Nexico” (a pet peeve of mine, El Paso is part of Texas, period). The problem is something else which is a topic for another day. If geography was the main reason, then explain Boise State football and Gonzaga basketball. Boise and Spokane are far from any relevant recruiting areas. At least El Paso is right in the middle of the population center of Texas and Southern California. But again, a topic for another day.

That's rare though. Theyve built themselves into name brand programs. I'm sure they weren't recruiting the same calibre of recruits before becoming a brand. Now they can, but initially they weren't winning by out-talenting opponents.

I'm not trying to put UTEP or El Paso down. It's just been the reality since I've been following CUSA recruiting. You've always been at the bottom of recruiting rankings by a mile. Rarely ever beat other Texas CUSA schools for recruits. Most of your recruits have no other FBS offers. Barring a Boise St type run (how probable is that) that will continue to be the case because of geography, imo. Thats why I think the KState model is smart for y'all.

Nope. Geography is part of that but it’s not the only reason. If geography was the main reason, Boise State would not have ever elevated their program to a top 25 one. Boise is in a worse part of the country for recruiting purposes than El Paso. But recruits want to go where they can win and in order to do that, you have to invest in paying coaches better. Yes, $750k a year goes a long way in El Paso. A nice house in the Franklin Mountains with a pool is nice. But in today’s landscape, $750k is not going to cut it if you want to move up on the G5 ladder. You won’t attract assistant coaches with $100k either. That’s where the fan base has to make a decision if they want to keep the status quo of having a winning season once or twice a decade or pay more in tickets. The facilities are there, the fan base is there as well. There’s no P5 and pro sports taking away attention from UTEP, in fact, the local media coverage is one I’ve seen in P5 markets and on the G5 level, the MWC. The business community supports the school as well but they can’t do it all by themselves. So the question is, would you pay an extra $5-$10for tickets and attract better coaches with a least $1.5 million salary or just be a program that keeps being left behind since 1998. The basketball program has the history and tradition but again, $750k is not going to cut it either.

As I’ve always stated multiple times on this board and the realignment one, UTEP’s struggles are internal not external. UTSA for example has to deal with UT-Austin being too close, a storied NBA franchise, having too many transplants who bring their allegiance to their new town and a lack of tradition when it comes to following the local FBS team. In El Paso, you’re an automatic fan if you’re born and raised there. It’s not rare if you went to a P5 school and still root for the Miners. Can the average San Antonian say the same? That’s why I can’t emphasize enough when I say it’s a different struggle from the vast majority of G5 schools. I’m not from El Paso and that’s the first thing I learned in my first semester and that’s why I don’t blame other people when they think it’s about geography. Heck, I used to think the same way.

Two paragraphs in, and still have no idea what UTEP's internal struggles are. WTH did I just read?

UTEP has never prioritized football. Historically we've always paid our football coaches the lowest in the conference and among the lowest in the nation.

This.

There are many reasons why UTEP has been spinning its wheels for 17 years. Any facility upgrades or new projects have been focused on a disappointing basketball program. UTEP needs to focus more on football. Its time to start giving the football program some improved/new facilities.

I agree that geography plays a role in recruiting difficulty to el paso. El paso isnt the prettiest city in the world at first glance and you have to stay here long enough to find its beauty. I have talked to a recruits father in the past and he said el paso is dangerous. Anyone from el paso knows this isn't true, but due to its proximity to the border, el paso has a reputation of being dangerous.

Given this, we still have had coaches who could recruit to el paso. Gary Nord, Gillispie, Barbee.

(11-08-2021 09:39 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:24 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 04:34 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  It’s not that’s it’s hard to recruit to “New Nexico” (a pet peeve of mine, El Paso is part of Texas, period). The problem is something else which is a topic for another day. If geography was the main reason, then explain Boise State football and Gonzaga basketball. Boise and Spokane are far from any relevant recruiting areas. At least El Paso is right in the middle of the population center of Texas and Southern California. But again, a topic for another day.

That's rare though. Theyve built themselves into name brand programs. I'm sure they weren't recruiting the same calibre of recruits before becoming a brand. Now they can, but initially they weren't winning by out-talenting opponents.

I'm not trying to put UTEP or El Paso down. It's just been the reality since I've been following CUSA recruiting. You've always been at the bottom of recruiting rankings by a mile. Rarely ever beat other Texas CUSA schools for recruits. Most of your recruits have no other FBS offers. Barring a Boise St type run (how probable is that) that will continue to be the case because of geography, imo. Thats why I think the KState model is smart for y'all.

Nope. Geography is part of that but it’s not the only reason. If geography was the main reason, Boise State would not have ever elevated their program to a top 25 one. Boise is in a worse part of the country for recruiting purposes than El Paso. But recruits want to go where they can win and in order to do that, you have to invest in paying coaches better. Yes, $750k a year goes a long way in El Paso. A nice house in the Franklin Mountains with a pool is nice. But in today’s landscape, $750k is not going to cut it if you want to move up on the G5 ladder. You won’t attract assistant coaches with $100k either. That’s where the fan base has to make a decision if they want to keep the status quo of having a winning season once or twice a decade or pay more in tickets. The facilities are there, the fan base is there as well. There’s no P5 and pro sports taking away attention from UTEP, in fact, the local media coverage is one I’ve seen in P5 markets and on the G5 level, the MWC. The business community supports the school as well but they can’t do it all by themselves. So the question is, would you pay an extra $5-$10for tickets and attract better coaches with a least $1.5 million salary or just be a program that keeps being left behind since 1998. The basketball program has the history and tradition but again, $750k is not going to cut it either.

As I’ve always stated multiple times on this board and the realignment one, UTEP’s struggles are internal not external. UTSA for example has to deal with UT-Austin being too close, a storied NBA franchise, having too many transplants who bring their allegiance to their new town and a lack of tradition when it comes to following the local FBS team. In El Paso, you’re an automatic fan if you’re born and raised there. It’s not rare if you went to a P5 school and still root for the Miners. Can the average San Antonian say the same? That’s why I can’t emphasize enough when I say it’s a different struggle from the vast majority of G5 schools. I’m not from El Paso and that’s the first thing I learned in my first semester and that’s why I don’t blame other people when they think it’s about geography. Heck, I used to think the same way.

Two paragraphs in, and still have no idea what UTEP's internal struggles are. WTH did I just read?

Fans don’t want to pony up. No money = paying head coaches and assistant coaches the minimum. Fans want a Boise State or UCF type of program but they want to spend $20 on four tickets, concessions and free parking. That’s some of the internal issues the school faces. Unlike most G5’s which are shadowed by P5 and pro sports and get ignored by the local media, none of those things apply to UTEP. Basketball gets more funding based on the history and tradition but the salaries are still low.

Until that mentality changes, things will remain the same.

(11-08-2021 10:20 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:09 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 09:39 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:24 PM)correcamino Wrote:  That's rare though. Theyve built themselves into name brand programs. I'm sure they weren't recruiting the same calibre of recruits before becoming a brand. Now they can, but initially they weren't winning by out-talenting opponents.

I'm not trying to put UTEP or El Paso down. It's just been the reality since I've been following CUSA recruiting. You've always been at the bottom of recruiting rankings by a mile. Rarely ever beat other Texas CUSA schools for recruits. Most of your recruits have no other FBS offers. Barring a Boise St type run (how probable is that) that will continue to be the case because of geography, imo. Thats why I think the KState model is smart for y'all.

Nope. Geography is part of that but it’s not the only reason. If geography was the main reason, Boise State would not have ever elevated their program to a top 25 one. Boise is in a worse part of the country for recruiting purposes than El Paso. But recruits want to go where they can win and in order to do that, you have to invest in paying coaches better. Yes, $750k a year goes a long way in El Paso. A nice house in the Franklin Mountains with a pool is nice. But in today’s landscape, $750k is not going to cut it if you want to move up on the G5 ladder. You won’t attract assistant coaches with $100k either. That’s where the fan base has to make a decision if they want to keep the status quo of having a winning season once or twice a decade or pay more in tickets. The facilities are there, the fan base is there as well. There’s no P5 and pro sports taking away attention from UTEP, in fact, the local media coverage is one I’ve seen in P5 markets and on the G5 level, the MWC. The business community supports the school as well but they can’t do it all by themselves. So the question is, would you pay an extra $5-$10for tickets and attract better coaches with a least $1.5 million salary or just be a program that keeps being left behind since 1998. The basketball program has the history and tradition but again, $750k is not going to cut it either.

As I’ve always stated multiple times on this board and the realignment one, UTEP’s struggles are internal not external. UTSA for example has to deal with UT-Austin being too close, a storied NBA franchise, having too many transplants who bring their allegiance to their new town and a lack of tradition when it comes to following the local FBS team. In El Paso, you’re an automatic fan if you’re born and raised there. It’s not rare if you went to a P5 school and still root for the Miners. Can the average San Antonian say the same? That’s why I can’t emphasize enough when I say it’s a different struggle from the vast majority of G5 schools. I’m not from El Paso and that’s the first thing I learned in my first semester and that’s why I don’t blame other people when they think it’s about geography. Heck, I used to think the same way.

Two paragraphs in, and still have no idea what UTEP's internal struggles are. WTH did I just read?

UTEP has never prioritized football. Historically we've always paid our football coaches the lowest in the conference and among the lowest in the nation.

This.

There are many reasons why UTEP has been spinning its wheels for 17 years. Any facility upgrades or new projects have been focused on a disappointing basketball program. UTEP needs to focus more on football. Its time to start giving the football program some improved/new facilities.

I agree that geography plays a role in recruiting difficulty to el paso. El paso isnt the prettiest city in the world at first glance and you have to stay here long enough to find its beauty. I have talked to a recruits father in the past and he said el paso is dangerous. Anyone from el paso knows this isn't true, but due to its proximity to the border, el paso has a reputation of being dangerous.

Given this, we still have had coaches who could recruit to el paso. Gary Nord, Gillispie, Barbee.

I’m not from El Paso so I see it from a different perspective. Of all the places I’ve seen all over the US, El Paso is not even in my top 50 worst places to live. The city is very safe, relatively clean, you don’t see homeless people in downtown or all over town like most places, the people are very friendly, the projects don’t even look like projects, what you call the hood is Disneyland compared to most places, the public schools are not bad given the size of the city, the airport is easy to navigate, traffic is not bad, the weather is perfect most of the year and the area is not prone to natural disasters. The best part is you have the best Mexican food in the US and don’t serve that crap called Tex-Mex.

(11-08-2021 10:43 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:20 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:09 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 09:39 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 05:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Nope. Geography is part of that but it’s not the only reason. If geography was the main reason, Boise State would not have ever elevated their program to a top 25 one. Boise is in a worse part of the country for recruiting purposes than El Paso. But recruits want to go where they can win and in order to do that, you have to invest in paying coaches better. Yes, $750k a year goes a long way in El Paso. A nice house in the Franklin Mountains with a pool is nice. But in today’s landscape, $750k is not going to cut it if you want to move up on the G5 ladder. You won’t attract assistant coaches with $100k either. That’s where the fan base has to make a decision if they want to keep the status quo of having a winning season once or twice a decade or pay more in tickets. The facilities are there, the fan base is there as well. There’s no P5 and pro sports taking away attention from UTEP, in fact, the local media coverage is one I’ve seen in P5 markets and on the G5 level, the MWC. The business community supports the school as well but they can’t do it all by themselves. So the question is, would you pay an extra $5-$10for tickets and attract better coaches with a least $1.5 million salary or just be a program that keeps being left behind since 1998. The basketball program has the history and tradition but again, $750k is not going to cut it either.

As I’ve always stated multiple times on this board and the realignment one, UTEP’s struggles are internal not external. UTSA for example has to deal with UT-Austin being too close, a storied NBA franchise, having too many transplants who bring their allegiance to their new town and a lack of tradition when it comes to following the local FBS team. In El Paso, you’re an automatic fan if you’re born and raised there. It’s not rare if you went to a P5 school and still root for the Miners. Can the average San Antonian say the same? That’s why I can’t emphasize enough when I say it’s a different struggle from the vast majority of G5 schools. I’m not from El Paso and that’s the first thing I learned in my first semester and that’s why I don’t blame other people when they think it’s about geography. Heck, I used to think the same way.

Two paragraphs in, and still have no idea what UTEP's internal struggles are. WTH did I just read?

UTEP has never prioritized football. Historically we've always paid our football coaches the lowest in the conference and among the lowest in the nation.

This.

There are many reasons why UTEP has been spinning its wheels for 17 years. Any facility upgrades or new projects have been focused on a disappointing basketball program. UTEP needs to focus more on football. Its time to start giving the football program some improved/new facilities.

I agree that geography plays a role in recruiting difficulty to el paso. El paso isnt the prettiest city in the world at first glance and you have to stay here long enough to find its beauty. I have talked to a recruits father in the past and he said el paso is dangerous. Anyone from el paso knows this isn't true, but due to its proximity to the border, el paso has a reputation of being dangerous.

Given this, we still have had coaches who could recruit to el paso. Gary Nord, Gillispie, Barbee.

I’m not from El Paso so I see it from a different perspective. Of all the places I’ve seen all over the US, El Paso is not even in my top 50 worst places to live. The city is very safe, relatively clean, you don’t see homeless people in downtown or all over town like most places, the people are very friendly, the projects don’t even look like projects, what you call the hood is Disneyland compared to most places, the public schools are not bad given the size of the city, the airport is easy to navigate, traffic is not bad, the weather is perfect most of the year and the area is not prone to natural disasters. The best part is you have the best Mexican food in the US and don’t serve that crap called Tex-Mex.

Bolded part is damned true.

Agree. I love el paso. I have lived in a few other places and I always come back. Do I wish it was greener? Sure, but I can drive a couple hours north to Cloudcroft, and plus have learned to appreciate desert beauty too.

(11-08-2021 11:09 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:43 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:20 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 10:09 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 09:39 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  Two paragraphs in, and still have no idea what UTEP's internal struggles are. WTH did I just read?

UTEP has never prioritized football. Historically we've always paid our football coaches the lowest in the conference and among the lowest in the nation.

This.

There are many reasons why UTEP has been spinning its wheels for 17 years. Any facility upgrades or new projects have been focused on a disappointing basketball program. UTEP needs to focus more on football. Its time to start giving the football program some improved/new facilities.

I agree that geography plays a role in recruiting difficulty to el paso. El paso isnt the prettiest city in the world at first glance and you have to stay here long enough to find its beauty. I have talked to a recruits father in the past and he said el paso is dangerous. Anyone from el paso knows this isn't true, but due to its proximity to the border, el paso has a reputation of being dangerous.

Given this, we still have had coaches who could recruit to el paso. Gary Nord, Gillispie, Barbee.

I’m not from El Paso so I see it from a different perspective. Of all the places I’ve seen all over the US, El Paso is not even in my top 50 worst places to live. The city is very safe, relatively clean, you don’t see homeless people in downtown or all over town like most places, the people are very friendly, the projects don’t even look like projects, what you call the hood is Disneyland compared to most places, the public schools are not bad given the size of the city, the airport is easy to navigate, traffic is not bad, the weather is perfect most of the year and the area is not prone to natural disasters. The best part is you have the best Mexican food in the US and don’t serve that crap called Tex-Mex.

Bolded part is damned true.

Agree. I love el paso. I have lived in a few other places and I always come back. Do I wish it was greener? Sure, but I can drive a couple hours north to Cloudcroft, and plus have learned to appreciate desert beauty too.

Probably more palm trees like in other desert cities like Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas and Palm Springs would help. More desert plants like cactus on the medians and on the side of I-10 would make it look nicer. And you’re right about Cloudcroft and Ruidoso. Reminds me of what people do in Phoenix when they go to Flagstaff to scape the heat and see the greenery.

(11-08-2021 08:52 PM)Roy Munson Wrote:  WTH, UTEP???

https://brobible.com/sports/article/utep...tsa-truck/


Beware the NSFW link embedded in the story.

Ridiculous. I live just outside of Houston, and drove to San Antonio to pick up my 75-year-old mother who wanted to join me for the trip because she's also a huge UTSA supporter, and I'm glad we didn't catch any of that action on our way in or out.

Aside from the concession stand delays, the only other thing I'll add is that we got in without anyone even checking our tickets. We went through two checkpoints and not one person scanned our tickets, or even asked to see them. We could've gotten in free of charge.

Been to El Paso at least 2-3 times before and enjoyed myself, and did this time as well, but if UTEP wants to keep their winning ways going, they need to take some measures not to embarrass themselves again the next time they have a big crowd.

(11-09-2021 09:44 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 08:52 PM)Roy Munson Wrote:  WTH, UTEP???

https://brobible.com/sports/article/utep...tsa-truck/


Beware the NSFW link embedded in the story.

Ridiculous. I live just outside of Houston, and drove to San Antonio to pick up my 75-year-old mother who wanted to join me for the trip because she's also a huge UTSA supporter, and I'm glad we didn't catch any of that action on our way in or out.

Aside from the concession stand delays, the only other thing I'll add is that we got in without anyone even checking our tickets. We went through two checkpoints and not one person scanned our tickets, or even asked to see them. We could've gotten in free of charge.

Been to El Paso at least 2-3 times before and enjoyed myself, and did this time as well, but if UTEP wants to keep their winning ways going, they need to take some measures not to embarrass themselves again the next time they have a big crowd.

Well that explains a lot. With the announced attendance being 31,500(roughly) and capacity being 51,000, there is no way in hell you could’ve fit another 20k people in there. Hell, we missed the first touchdown because it took us 20 min to get through the gate there was so many people. I needed to go to the bathroom at halftime and was dreading it, hah, no problem. Apparently everyone was standing in a concession line so I walked right in and out.

All in all we had a fantastic time in El Paso. The city was great, the food was great and everyone was very nice (though the gas prices on the west side were ridiculous). Kudos to y’all and we appreciated the hospitality.

(11-10-2021 06:59 AM)Migser31 Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 09:44 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-08-2021 08:52 PM)Roy Munson Wrote:  WTH, UTEP???

https://brobible.com/sports/article/utep...tsa-truck/


Beware the NSFW link embedded in the story.

Ridiculous. I live just outside of Houston, and drove to San Antonio to pick up my 75-year-old mother who wanted to join me for the trip because she's also a huge UTSA supporter, and I'm glad we didn't catch any of that action on our way in or out.

Aside from the concession stand delays, the only other thing I'll add is that we got in without anyone even checking our tickets. We went through two checkpoints and not one person scanned our tickets, or even asked to see them. We could've gotten in free of charge.

Been to El Paso at least 2-3 times before and enjoyed myself, and did this time as well, but if UTEP wants to keep their winning ways going, they need to take some measures not to embarrass themselves again the next time they have a big crowd.

Well that explains a lot. With the announced attendance being 31,500(roughly) and capacity being 51,000, there is no way in hell you could’ve fit another 20k people in there. Hell, we missed the first touchdown because it took us 20 min to get through the gate there was so many people. I needed to go to the bathroom at halftime and was dreading it, hah, no problem. Apparently everyone was standing in a concession line so I walked right in and out.

All in all we had a fantastic time in El Paso. The city was great, the food was great and everyone was very nice (though the gas prices on the west side were ridiculous). Kudos to y’all and we appreciated the hospitality.

Glad you enjoyed el paso. Where did you eat? Our Mexican food is obviously great and the best steak can be found at Cattlemans in Fabens, but otherwise our food is kind of meh.

And excuse the stadium staff. They havent seen attendance like that in years, and everywhere in el paso is short staffed due to COVID. They probably wont see attendance like that this year. UTSA was the only interesting school left on the schedule from a casual fans standpoint.