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Number of Belt competitors in 22-23 and 23-24
I will assume Little Rock and UTA are here next year but gone by 23-24 so here are the possibilities:

2022-23: JMU is in for all non-football sports so that puts us at 13 for basketball and baseball. If ODU, USM and Marshall can join next year that gives us 16 for basketball and baseball. In football it will be 10 or 13 if Marshall USM and ODU can join

2023-24: All 4 newcomers certainly in for non-football sports so assuming UTA and Little Rock are gone that gives us the 14 for baseball and basketball. In football all 14 are in though JMU is bowl-ineligible until 2024-25

Get the scheduling department ready to come up with several options until we know what we have
11-05-2021 04:54 PM
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When does the football schedule typically release
11-05-2021 05:20 PM
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I m curious how ODU USM and Marshall think they can be here next year. I m all for it and hope it happens
11-05-2021 09:11 PM
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(11-05-2021 09:11 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I m curious how ODU USM and Marshall think they can be here next year. I m all for it and hope it happens

They can bite the bullet and pony up the money to leave early or they can stay and forfeit 2 years on CUSA payouts. If I was them I would pay the money and leave early. The Belt waived the entry fee and they make up the money under the new ESPN deal and CFP payout.

Options
Play another year in CUSA and get no conference revenue.

Pay to get out early and break even with Belt payout.
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(11-05-2021 09:11 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I m curious how ODU USM and Marshall think they can be here next year. I m all for it and hope it happens

With the AACUSA 6 staying for the time being waiting on the XII to clear room for the AAC defectors, CUSA could still field competition without the SBC three. As the exit fee is just the forfeiture of conference monies that would be received, there is really no good reason for us to stick around.
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RE: Number of Belt competitors in 22-23 and 23-24
22 would be fantastic - all but football for JMU

with our two transition years both counting as FBS wins for other FBS teams, hoping we can approximate an FBS schedule in 22 (some SBC, Louisville already scheduled, FCS, FBS mixed bag) and full SBC schedule in 23~
11-06-2021 11:45 AM
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(11-06-2021 11:45 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  22 would be fantastic - all but football for JMU

with our two transition years both counting as FBS wins for other FBS teams, hoping we can approximate an FBS schedule in 22 (some SBC, Louisville already scheduled, FCS, FBS mixed bag) and full SBC schedule in 23~

Your first transition year you’d still be considered an FCS game unless that’s changed recently. In 2023 you count as FBS but you’d only be eligible for a bowl if all 6-win full members are ticketed to bowls (except 6-7 teams that didn’t lose in a conference title game, I think)
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(11-06-2021 12:17 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(11-06-2021 11:45 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  22 would be fantastic - all but football for JMU

with our two transition years both counting as FBS wins for other FBS teams, hoping we can approximate an FBS schedule in 22 (some SBC, Louisville already scheduled, FCS, FBS mixed bag) and full SBC schedule in 23~

Your first transition year you’d still be considered an FCS game unless that’s changed recently. In 2023 you count as FBS but you’d only be eligible for a bowl if all 6-win full members are ticketed to bowls (except 6-7 teams that didn’t lose in a conference title game, I think)


Next year JMU will operate as a sort of FBS/FCS independent hybrid. Can’t qualify for FCS or FBS postseason, but can schedule more than one FCS team if needed to fill their schedule, which is typical of FCS transitioning schools, BUT they can also count as an FBS team if another FBS schedules them. There was no rule change, but they got an exemption due to their football scholarship levels being above typical FCS levels due to Covid.

Long story short, for other school’s scheduling purposes next season, JMU is an FBS team.
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JMU fans, send your football scheduler to this post. I went to FBschedules.com and found some G5’s with openings next year that don’t conflict with your currently scheduled games. Some of these could be easy wins.

UMass: 10/22
UConn: 11/26 (or 10/22)
Kent State, CMU, MUTS: 9/17
MUTS: 9/24
UAB: 9/3 (conflicts with your Weber St game, but UAB still needs another OOC home game, maybe a different date can be worked out)
11-06-2021 01:10 PM
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(11-06-2021 12:39 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  
(11-06-2021 12:17 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(11-06-2021 11:45 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  22 would be fantastic - all but football for JMU

with our two transition years both counting as FBS wins for other FBS teams, hoping we can approximate an FBS schedule in 22 (some SBC, Louisville already scheduled, FCS, FBS mixed bag) and full SBC schedule in 23~

Your first transition year you’d still be considered an FCS game unless that’s changed recently. In 2023 you count as FBS but you’d only be eligible for a bowl if all 6-win full members are ticketed to bowls (except 6-7 teams that didn’t lose in a conference title game, I think)

That makes sense. When ODU transitioned, the first season we played six home games against FCS teams and five road games against FBS teams because we were still considered an FCS team for bowl eligibility standards (we also played a road game against Norfolk State as a make-good for a long-term home-and-home series we signed while still in FCS).

Next year JMU will operate as a sort of FBS/FCS independent hybrid. Can’t qualify for FCS or FBS postseason, but can schedule more than one FCS team if needed to fill their schedule, which is typical of FCS transitioning schools, BUT they can also count as an FBS team if another FBS schedules them. There was no rule change, but they got an exemption due to their football scholarship levels being above typical FCS levels due to Covid.

Long story short, for other school’s scheduling purposes next season, JMU is an FBS team.
11-06-2021 02:57 PM
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