EMU WBB deserves its own thread. Here it is.

Lead post: An article by Tony Paul, Detroit News.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...1636054843

Hint: CMU may not longer be Numero Uno.

Wow! Seven freshmen and FOUR are from the State if Michigan! I love it, Fred to date, has leaned on transfers and has not recruited Michigan High Schools.

That said, I remember having the same feeling with Murph's 2017-18 team when he recruited a rather unremarkable freshman class that of seven frosh, only one Derek Ballard remains.

Castro was.500 all the way around last season. Is this the season we break through?

(11-04-2021 04:05 PM)emu steve Wrote:  EMU WBB deserves its own thread. Here it is.

Lead post: An article by Tony Paul, Detroit News.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...1636054843

Hint: CMU may not longer be Numero Uno.

I made one years ago nobody used it.

Coming into his 6th year as head coach Castro has an overall record of 57-87 and a conference record of 29-57. The past two seasons EMU has finished at .500 in conference.

(11-04-2021 06:54 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-04-2021 04:05 PM)emu steve Wrote:  EMU WBB deserves its own thread. Here it is.

Lead post: An article by Tony Paul, Detroit News.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...1636054843

Hint: CMU may not longer be Numero Uno.

I made one years ago nobody used it.

I will...just as soon as a player dunks the ball.

(11-05-2021 06:18 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Coming into his 6th year as head coach Castro has an overall record of 57-87 and a conference record of 29-57. The past two seasons EMU has finished at .500 in conference.

Forgive me. 6th year...30 games under .500? I don't follow WBB but what does a person have to do to get fired around here??

(11-05-2021 07:12 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 06:18 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Coming into his 6th year as head coach Castro has an overall record of 57-87 and a conference record of 29-57. The past two seasons EMU has finished at .500 in conference.

Forgive me. 6th year...30 games under .500? I don't follow WBB but what does a person have to do to get fired around here??

Castro is the WBB equivalent to C.C.

This could be his year.

P.S. for C.C. and Castro, forget the 1st two years.

(11-05-2021 06:18 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Coming into his 6th year as head coach Castro has an overall record of 57-87 and a conference record of 29-57. The past two seasons EMU has finished at .500 in conference.

Once again, I'll mention what I've posted before. Castro faced a daunting task his first year or two.

As I understand it. Verdi shocked everyone by taking the UMass job. Stars Sweeney and Morton transferred after their 'favored' HC candidate, Finley, wasn't selected.

The next season was a total rebuild. Worse than C.C. encountered. Losing your top two scorers to transfer (back then!!) is a kick in the somewhere.

So it took Castro say 3 years to get the program back near .500.

Now it is like EMU FB. Just waiting for that breakout season.

For the life of me, I don't know why posters even 'count' C.C. or Castro's first two years.

Do folks think a new coach can go out recruiting and like MAGIC take a team largely devoid of top notch talent and turn it into a winner in one season or two???

And then after 2016/7 Phillis Webb graduated and the three of the four pillars of Verdi's teams were gone to transfer or graduation.

(11-05-2021 08:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 06:18 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Coming into his 6th year as head coach Castro has an overall record of 57-87 and a conference record of 29-57. The past two seasons EMU has finished at .500 in conference.

Once again, I'll mention what I've posted before. Castro faced a daunting task his first year or two.

As I understand it. Verdi shocked everyone by taking the UMass job. Stars Sweeney and Morton transferred after their 'favored' HC candidate, Finley, wasn't selected.

The next season was a total rebuild. Worse than C.C. encountered. Losing your top two scorers to transfer (back then!!) is a kick in the somewhere.

So it took Castro say 3 years to get the program back near .500.

Now it is like EMU FB. Just waiting for that breakout season.

For the life of me, I don't know why posters even 'count' C.C. or Castro's first two years.

Do folks think a new coach can go out recruiting and like MAGIC take a team largely devoid of top notch talent and turn it into a winner in one season or two???

And then after 2016/7 Phillis Webb graduated and the three of the four pillars of Verdi's teams were gone to transfer or graduation.

Steve,

You make a good argument, however, basketball and football are apples and oranges when comparing the time to make them successful. For basketball, if you want to win your conference, you need possibly two superstars, a couple more good players and a roster that has a few more role players sprinkled into the mix. Football on the other hand, requires a lot more talent on a 100 man roster.

From my perspective, Castro is just a so so coach similar to Murphy. Castro has had some talent but he doesn’t know what to do with it. From a macro perspective WBB is not followed very much in the MAC so if fans are indifferent on the sport, just keep what you got unless the coach or team is embarrassing the school. In our case, just keep Castro.

(11-05-2021 08:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 06:18 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Coming into his 6th year as head coach Castro has an overall record of 57-87 and a conference record of 29-57. The past two seasons EMU has finished at .500 in conference.

Once again, I'll mention what I've posted before. Castro faced a daunting task his first year or two.

As I understand it. Verdi shocked everyone by taking the UMass job. Stars Sweeney and Morton transferred after their 'favored' HC candidate, Finley, wasn't selected.

The next season was a total rebuild. Worse than C.C. encountered. Losing your top two scorers to transfer (back then!!) is a kick in the somewhere.

So it took Castro say 3 years to get the program back near .500.

Now it is like EMU FB. Just waiting for that breakout season.

For the life of me, I don't know why posters even 'count' C.C. or Castro's first two years.

Do folks think a new coach can go out recruiting and like MAGIC take a team largely devoid of top notch talent and turn it into a winner in one season or two???

And then after 2016/7 Phillis Webb graduated and the three of the four pillars of Verdi's teams were gone to transfer or graduation.

Let's hope we move past .500 this year. Unlike football women's hoops has three different coaches who got us to the postseason.

Women lose a close one to Youngstown St.


We sign 3 the first day of early signing. We know Fred can recruit.

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

(11-11-2021 06:20 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Women lose a close one to Youngstown St.


We sign 3 the first day of early signing. We know Fred can recruit.

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

I find it impossible to ascertain how good WBB recruits are.

The EMU website says '.Rated as a top-125 player in the State of Indiana, according to MaxPreps." I would think we should be recruiting top 25 senior from midwestern states like IN.

I've always that that MBB/WBB recruits from MI (and elsewhere) need to be top 25 of their class.

These classes are not 50 or 100 players deep.

It is very possible that we are really off on our WBB recruiting analysis.

The only way to really know is to subscribe to the Prep Hoops state by state for MBB or WBB. See a list of 1 to N recruits and see how our recruit fares compared to other seniors in her academic class in her state.

I do this all the time with 247sports for EMU FB. I'll take the state of our recruit and see how he ranks in his senior class. Been doing this for Oklahoma, Illinois, etc. I can see where players 'like him' are being recruited.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Footba...l&State=IL

Reese (#28) appears to be a plan B B1G recruit and Indestad (#36) a high quality MAC recruit or possibly a plan B B1G recruit.

Those are two high quality MAC recruits. No doubt.

(11-11-2021 04:08 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 06:20 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Women lose a close one to Youngstown St.


We sign 3 the first day of early signing. We know Fred can recruit.

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

I find it impossible to ascertain how good WBB recruits are.

The EMU website says '.Rated as a top-125 player in the State of Indiana, according to MaxPreps." I would think we should be recruiting top 25 senior from midwestern states like IN.

I've always that that MBB/WBB recruits from MI (and elsewhere) need to be top 25 of their class.

These classes are not 50 or 100 players deep.

It is very possible that we are really off on our WBB recruiting analysis.

The only way to really know is to subscribe to the Prep Hoops state by state for MBB or WBB. See a list of 1 to N recruits and see how our recruit fares compared to other seniors in her academic class in her state.

I do this all the time with 247sports for EMU FB. I'll take the state of our recruit and see how he ranks in his senior class. Been doing this for Oklahoma, Illinois, etc. I can see where players 'like him' are being recruited.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Footba...l&State=IL

Reese (#28) appears to be a plan B B1G recruit and Indestad (#36) a high quality MAC recruit or possibly a plan B B1G recruit.

Those are two high quality MAC recruits. No doubt.

I tend to agree with you. However in past Castro classes it was noted how the recruits were nationally ranked for example by ESPN.

(11-13-2021 09:01 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 04:08 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 06:20 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Women lose a close one to Youngstown St.


We sign 3 the first day of early signing. We know Fred can recruit.

https://emueagles.com/news/2021/11/10/wo...g-day.aspx

I find it impossible to ascertain how good WBB recruits are.

The EMU website says '.Rated as a top-125 player in the State of Indiana, according to MaxPreps." I would think we should be recruiting top 25 senior from midwestern states like IN.

I've always that that MBB/WBB recruits from MI (and elsewhere) need to be top 25 of their class.

These classes are not 50 or 100 players deep.

It is very possible that we are really off on our WBB recruiting analysis.

The only way to really know is to subscribe to the Prep Hoops state by state for MBB or WBB. See a list of 1 to N recruits and see how our recruit fares compared to other seniors in her academic class in her state.

I do this all the time with 247sports for EMU FB. I'll take the state of our recruit and see how he ranks in his senior class. Been doing this for Oklahoma, Illinois, etc. I can see where players 'like him' are being recruited.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Footba...l&State=IL

Reese (#28) appears to be a plan B B1G recruit and Indestad (#36) a high quality MAC recruit or possibly a plan B B1G recruit.

Those are two high quality MAC recruits. No doubt.

I tend to agree with you. However in past Castro classes it was noted how the recruits were nationally ranked for example by ESPN.

I'm not convinced that those are accurate. I'm never impressed by reading "Miss X was rated top 50 in Michigan by national recruiting analyst Joe Blow."

MI talent isn't that deep. We are not California.

I'd read them and think, "they're not as highly rated as written." I want to see something like Verbal Commits where I can see other offers, etc. Would even be better with visit information (now we're getting serious).

And hasn't EMU WBB really done BETTER with transfers than h.s. recruits?

P.S. to be even fairer. I have a 2nd cousin who is a girls h.s. basketball coach. When I was in Detroit this summer, my first cousin showed me a coaches' card and asked if I knew him. It was Castro's business card.

I am NOT in the business of degrading MI h.s. girls hoops for many reasons. Lol.

Replying to my post. :(

Half of the EMU WBB team ARE transfers.

Also, Here is the starting lineup for tonight's game. Three starters are transfers.

Starters
No. Name Pos. Ht. Cl. GP/GS PPG RPG AST MIN.
10 Areanna Combs G 5-10 R-Sr. 1/1 19.0 8.0 7.0 37.0 (Okla State)
11 Lachelle Austin G 5-7 Fr. 1/1 9.0 2.0 2.0 34.0 (MI H.S.)
20 Danielle Rainey G 5-10 R-Sr. 1/1 6.0 2.0 1.0 35.0 (Florida)
21 Ce'Nara Skanes F 6-0 R-So. 1/1 11.0 13.0 1.0 36.0 (Florida International)
32 RayJon Harris F 6-1 R-Jr. 1/1 8.0 3.0 0.0 15.0 (Ohio H.S.)

Here is the 2021/22 roster (I count 8 transfers):

No. Name Pos. Ht. Cl. Hometown-High School (Previous College)
0 Terrysha Banner G 5-5 Jr. Surprise, Ariz. - Valley Vista (Tennessee State)
1 ZaNiya Nelson G 5-11 Fr. Oklahoma City, Okla.-Putnam City West
2 Juanita Agosto G 5-6 R-Jr. Seattle, Wash.-Garfield
3 Irekpitan Ozzy-Momodu C 6-2 Sr. London, England-Southwark (Robert Morris)
4 Courtnie Lewis G 5-10 Sr. Belton, Mo.-Belton
5 Toyosi Abiola G 5-7 R-Jr. London, England-City of London Academy (Iona)
10 Areanna Combs G 5-10 R-Sr. Oklahoma City, Okla.-Putnam City West (Oklahoma State)
11 Lachelle Austin G 5-7 Fr. Redford, Mich.-Wayne Memorial
12 Kylee O’Hara F 6-0 Jr. Ajax, Ontario-Henry Street (Florida International)
14 Natalia Pineda G 5-9 Jr. Miami, Fla.-John A. Ferguson
20 Danielle Rainey G 5-10 R-Sr. Cedar Park, Texas-Vista Ridge (Florida)
21 Ce’Nara Skanes F 6-0 R-So. Oklahoma City, Okla.-Putnam City West (Florida International)
22 Treasure Thompson F 6-2 Fr. Joliet, Ill.-Bolingbrook (Lousiana State)
23 Kyndal Lewis G 5-8 Fr. Belton, Mo.-Belton
24 Peyton Pinkney G 6-0 Fr. Pittsburgh, Pa.-Woodland Hills
32 RayJon Harris F 6-1 R-Jr. Euclid, Ohio-Euclid
33 Makailah Griggs-Zeigler G 6-0 Fr. Detroit, Mich.-Wayne Memorial
44 Madisyn Tillman F 6-2 Fr. Kentwood, Mich.-East Kentwood

Bottom line: EMU WBB isn't much different than Murphy or Heath MBB. Key players are TRANSFERS.

This seems to have held true for a while across both genders.

I think last night's game illustrates the point I was making.

The top 3 scorers were: Skanes, Combs, Rainey. All are transfers. All from sun belt states. Castro deserves credit for getting them to come to MI.

https://emueagles.com/sports/womens-bask...core/12967

Tonight's game @Oklahoma will be on many Bally stations. Doubt Bally Detroit is one, though. It is listed as being on in D.C. on the MASN channel.

If it is on in your area, enjoy.

(12-07-2021 05:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Tonight's game @Oklahoma will be on many Bally stations. Doubt Bally Detroit is one, though. It is listed as being on in D.C. on the MASN channel.

If it is on in your area, enjoy.

In on Bally Detroit. Thanks Steve.

(12-07-2021 05:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Tonight's game @Oklahoma will be on many Bally stations. Doubt Bally Detroit is one, though. It is listed as being on in D.C. on the MASN channel.

If it is on in your area, enjoy.

Bally and Sinclair still are not on DISH and it's 11 million plus subscribers.