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RE: JMU Transition to Sunbelt/FBS/CAA AQs
(11-06-2021 08:40 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  As of today there are 4 P5 left for next year. Many more for 2023 including Alabama.
For 2022 Duke, Miami, Rutgers, Kansas
Let’s go. Bourne should be on the phone as soon as the press conference is over today.

Does the Sun Belt have a scheduling person that collaborates to get games for its conference members in order to help the conference profile?

I doubt any P5 will be jumping to play JMU until after the transition, even though between conference changes and the Alliance scheduling, there will be dozens of swaps the next two years.

But JMU should at least be able to get a couple of games with Marshal, ODU and Southern Miss. I would avoid Liberty or any other future CUSA teams, except Sam Houston and Jacksonville State might be OK during the transition. Those might be a good idea until we can ramp up scholarships, and they may feel the same.
11-08-2021 04:34 PM
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(11-08-2021 04:28 PM)84Breeze Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 03:01 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  Good call, checked mine. Annual was due to renew on 11/25. I can just pay per month if I need it for basketball.


Exact same situation for me. So glad that I didn’t snooze and let it renew for another year. Will have to figure out basketball.


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Mine is the 25th as well. Is the game plan to cancel and get monthly subs? Obviously we still want to watch basketball.
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(11-08-2021 04:34 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 04:28 PM)84Breeze Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 03:01 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  Good call, checked mine. Annual was due to renew on 11/25. I can just pay per month if I need it for basketball.


Exact same situation for me. So glad that I didn’t snooze and let it renew for another year. Will have to figure out basketball.


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Mine is the 25th as well. Is the game plan to cancel and get monthly subs? Obviously we still want to watch basketball.


That is what I am thinking. I think you can go month to month for b-ball. I just didn’t want to get hit for another year. The W&M game is last football game on Flo. ESPN will have the playoffs thankfully.


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11-08-2021 04:47 PM
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Does anyone know how many JMU games were supposed to have been on CBS Sports Network this season?

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(11-08-2021 05:42 PM)DukeQuin Wrote:  Does anyone know how many JMU games were supposed to have been on CBS Sports Network this season?



It was several. At least 4, maybe more.


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Not unexpected. That channel is hot seafood trash. We’re fine.
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(11-08-2021 06:27 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Not unexpected. That channel is hot seafood trash. We’re fine.

I wonder if this is a media deal violation? It seems like it would as we are still playing in the CAA this season.
The big loser in this is CBS Sports. They can’t be happy about this.
So much for leaving amicably. They are doubling down. The CAA logos need to go. They don’t deserve the revenue.
Screw the CAA.
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CAA = Conference Against Athletes

CAA - is within their bylaws and legal rights to do what they are doing. They choose which games to make available on non-flo outlets. It isn't a very savvy business move by the CAA, where they demonstrate that they can dilute the value of the broadcast agreements. However, undoubtedly the CAA wants no part of any broadcast bad press. Which would be likely at home games and potentially by commentators. Need a loud mouth like Bill Walton to take the conference to task.

All of this is a lesson in complicity though. JMU, ODU, UR, and any other school that voted to enforce the bylaw should have taken a stand to stop it instead. Yes our fans and the school will need to move on, but unfair things don't change with silence. Our athletes who are impacted and just the victims in this, are the right ones to make the case and lead the charge - if not for their career than for the benefit of future athletes impacted by a stupid bylaw.
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The conference has really taken a vindictive stance against JMU since the the by-law rulling. Agree remove all CAA logos asap and start doing your own game broadcast, if it can be done legally without punitive damage.

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(11-08-2021 10:06 PM)hburg Wrote:  The conference has really taken a vindictive stance against JMU since the the by-law rulling. Agree remove all CAA logos asap and start doing your own game broadcast, if it can be done legally without punitive damage.

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As much as I want that to happen, I doubt JMU will do that. JMU will probably take the high road and keep the logos there until the end of the season.
As for our teams, they need to destroy every CAA opponent they come across.
And once this whole thing is over, I doubt JMU will want anything to do with any CAA opponent in the near future.
11-09-2021 08:56 AM
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Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?
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(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?
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(11-09-2021 09:19 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?

3) Did ODU announce they were leaving before seasons were completed/started when no recruiting or competitive advantage could be gained?
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(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

To my knowledge, they did not kick ODU off the national TV package.
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(11-09-2021 09:22 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:19 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?

3) Did ODU announce they were leaving before seasons were completed/started when no recruiting or competitive advantage could be gained?

4) Did ODU contribute subscriptions/$s to the TV CBS/Flo as JMU has done.

I don't want to see the CAA logo on that court. We're no longer part of the CAA.

I hope I don't see it tonight.......

What the CAA has done needs to be front and center on the UVA/JMU game on sports net.
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(11-09-2021 09:31 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:22 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:19 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?

3) Did ODU announce they were leaving before seasons were completed/started when no recruiting or competitive advantage could be gained?

4) Did ODU contribute subscriptions/$s to the TV CBS/Flo as JMU has done.

I don't want to see the CAA logo on that court. We're no longer part of the CAA.

I hope I don't see it tonight.......

What the CAA has done needs to be front and center on the UVA/JMU game on sports net.

JMU has been taking the high road for the most part. As bad as I want them to do that, I have a feeling they are going to leave it on the court and the uniforms this season. I'm sure JMU doesn't want to do anything to hurt their chances of things being reconsidered for the athletes and doing that would certainly ruin it. If they did do something, it would be a statement that the bridge is completely burnt down and there is no fixing it.
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(11-09-2021 10:04 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:31 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:22 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:19 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?

3) Did ODU announce they were leaving before seasons were completed/started when no recruiting or competitive advantage could be gained?

4) Did ODU contribute subscriptions/$s to the TV CBS/Flo as JMU has done.

I don't want to see the CAA logo on that court. We're no longer part of the CAA.

I hope I don't see it tonight.......

What the CAA has done needs to be front and center on the UVA/JMU game on sports net.

JMU has been taking the high road for the most part. As bad as I want them to do that, I have a feeling they are going to leave it on the court and the uniforms this season. I'm sure JMU doesn't want to do anything to hurt their chances of things being reconsidered for the athletes and doing that would certainly ruin it. If they did do something, it would be a statement that the bridge is completely burnt down and there is no fixing it.

That makes sense, but I don't think we'll see any JMU teams competing in any more CAATs.

It's in the rear view mirror come the end of the school year.

Who were the schools that voted to allow us to remain eligible? Do we know that for sure? I think they/that should definitely be remembered.
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(11-09-2021 10:11 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 10:04 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:31 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:22 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:19 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?

3) Did ODU announce they were leaving before seasons were completed/started when no recruiting or competitive advantage could be gained?

4) Did ODU contribute subscriptions/$s to the TV CBS/Flo as JMU has done.

I don't want to see the CAA logo on that court. We're no longer part of the CAA.

I hope I don't see it tonight.......

What the CAA has done needs to be front and center on the UVA/JMU game on sports net.

JMU has been taking the high road for the most part. As bad as I want them to do that, I have a feeling they are going to leave it on the court and the uniforms this season. I'm sure JMU doesn't want to do anything to hurt their chances of things being reconsidered for the athletes and doing that would certainly ruin it. If they did do something, it would be a statement that the bridge is completely burnt down and there is no fixing it.

That makes sense, but I don't think we'll see any JMU teams competing in any more CAATs.

It's in the rear view mirror come the end of the school year.

Who were the schools that voted to allow us to remain eligible? Do we know that for sure? I think they/that should definitely be remembered.

I think Shane Mettlen reported that it was CoC and Hofstra.
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(11-09-2021 09:22 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:19 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?

3) Did ODU announce they were leaving before seasons were completed/started when no recruiting or competitive advantage could be gained?

I don't know but that's the million dollar question. Were the ODU athletes allowed to complete the season they started without penalties. All JMU sports being ineligible next season is fair and understandable but screwing the athletes during their current season isn't.
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(11-09-2021 11:28 AM)RamDawg Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:22 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:19 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-09-2021 09:08 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Did the CAA do this to ODU when they left?

1) Did any other past CAA member that left go through Covid?
2) Did any other conference during this summer realignment ban a program leaving?

3) Did ODU announce they were leaving before seasons were completed/started when no recruiting or competitive advantage could be gained?

I don't know but that's the million dollar question. Were the ODU athletes allowed to complete the season they started without penalties. All JMU sports being ineligible next season is fair and understandable but screwing the athletes during their current season isn't.

I'm pretty sure they announced after the spring seasons were over so the CAA didn't really get a chance to penalize them for the current season. If they had, I would have defended them (as much as I dislike them).
Some say that we had control over making the announcement and we didn't. If we wanted to go to the Sun Belt, we had to announce when we did. Plus, the Sun Belt doesn't deserve to have to wait for something another conference wants to do to us. That isn't their problem. They have their own things they are dealing with. And JMU definitely wasn't going to turn down the Sun Belt due to a terrible bylaw (even though they were told they had votes in their favor).
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