(11-03-2021 11:18 AM)JohnGoodmanMSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 10:49 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 10:43 AM)JohnGoodmanMSU Wrote:  I believe both Missouri State and Marshall are 5-3. MSU has a big game in Carbondale against a really good SIU team that has massive playoff implications. I am sure at practice this week they are talking about winning this game and if they make the playoffs, they have a shot to win a national title. We are far from the best team but we have played the top teams close so there is a chance.

Marshall plays FAU this week. I suppose winning the division is on their minds, but it feels like the big thing in CUSA would be winning games so that you can get the Independence Bowl bid and not have to fall to a less glamorous bowl like the Lending Tree bowl. That's fun I guess but what does it ultimately matter if you get the lesser bowl. Less money for the school I would reckon, but does it really matter to the fans? It's just another exhibition game either way.

We get it you don't have to try and convince us any further. There are other schools that want to move up and take your place. Good luck in your game against SIU. By the way who is SIU? I've never heard of them.

I mean no disrespect to UTEP. I have long been a fan of Dana Dimel and I love your stadium from what I have seen on TV. Maybe I am coming on a little bit more aggressive than I imagined.

I have a hard time understanding how someone can be a big football fan and not keep up with FCS. I watch plenty of that and the D2, D3 title games. The regional D2 conference in Missouri and Kansas has some of the best D2 football around and I travel to those games if I am not watching MSU, Mizzou, Arkansas, SEMO, etc.

I watch mostly MACtion games when I watch G5 football just because they are on alone on Tuesday and Wednesday nights. I really enjoy that immensely but I don't feel like the level is all that different from what I see weekly in the Missouri Valley. I am sure they would win a head to head MAC/MVC challenge but I don't think it would be all that lopsided.

Maybe it's cuz we've never played FCS ball. Never had an interest in it. No disrespect to your university either but I didn't even know you had a football team until you were mentioned as a candidate for CUSA. The only FCS schools I know about are the ones we've played in the Sun Bowl. I'll never forget Cal Poly beating us in the early 2000's. Since then I have no idea what they've done.

(11-03-2021 11:21 AM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 08:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Seriously, who the hell is Sam Houston and Jacksonville State?

You are a nothing at the FCS level. You should be grateful you're getting an opportunity to come up.

“You are nothing at the FCS level”. Defending Champs? 3 recent title game appearances? 8 playoffs in 10 years? Sounds like a nobody to me… but surely going to the Gasparilla Bowl would make us a somebody in the world of college sports

Grateful? What’s there to be grateful about? Joining the worst conference in the FBS that’s ever existed? Playing on the island of misfit toys of the FBS level, including the “Make-A-Wish” kid of FBS, NMST? Be grateful for a shot at the Shreveport Independence Bowl? Yeah, I’ll keep acting ungrateful. Take UCONN, I’m sure they’d be grateful being in this conference!

It boils down to this. You all point to viewership of the National Championship Game as a reason to stay. What are the odds of getting to that game year in and year out? Not great. What are the odds you get another game on National Television? Low.

If the purpose of athletics is to act as a walking billboard for your school, FBS is the way to go. App State will have around 7 or 8 of their 14 games on a linear ESPN channel. Each game will have between 400,000 and 1.1 million or so viewers. The math says that the viewership for App State is consistently higher than that of Sam Houston State's one game, if they get there.

Most former FCS schools get the draw of the FCS Playoffs. But nothing beats playing Marshall, ECU, and UNC in Boone with an equal number of scholarships on National Television versus playing them with 63 on the road and then getting The Citadel, Wofford, Mars Hill, Furman, etc. for conference or out of conference play.

There is a big difference between 31,000 on a Wednesday or Thursday night on ESPN against an AP Top 25 team and playing Top 25 games on FloSports in FCS. The importance of those games in FBS replace the importance of the playoff games in FCS. It's not something that can be explained until you experience the difference. The playoff in FBS is essentially a week in and week out process.

(11-03-2021 11:36 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 11:21 AM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 08:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Seriously, who the hell is Sam Houston and Jacksonville State?

You are a nothing at the FCS level. You should be grateful you're getting an opportunity to come up.

“You are nothing at the FCS level”. Defending Champs? 3 recent title game appearances? 8 playoffs in 10 years? Sounds like a nobody to me… but surely going to the Gasparilla Bowl would make us a somebody in the world of college sports

Grateful? What’s there to be grateful about? Joining the worst conference in the FBS that’s ever existed? Playing on the island of misfit toys of the FBS level, including the “Make-A-Wish” kid of FBS, NMST? Be grateful for a shot at the Shreveport Independence Bowl? Yeah, I’ll keep acting ungrateful. Take UCONN, I’m sure they’d be grateful being in this conference!

It boils down to this. You all point to viewership of the National Championship Game as a reason to stay. What are the odds of getting to that game year in and year out? Not great. What are the odds you get another game on National Television? Low.

If the purpose of athletics is to act as a walking billboard for your school, FBS is the way to go. App State will have around 7 or 8 of their 14 games on a linear ESPN channel. Each game will have between 400,000 and 1.1 million or so viewers. The math says that the viewership for App State is consistently higher than that of Sam Houston State's one game, if they get there.

Most former FCS schools get the draw of the FCS Playoffs. But nothing beats playing Marshall, ECU, and UNC in Boone with an equal number of scholarships on National Television versus playing them with 63 on the road and then getting The Citadel, Wofford, Mars Hill, Furman, etc. for conference or out of conference play.

There is a big difference between 31,000 on a Wednesday or Thursday night on ESPN against an AP Top 25 team and playing Top 25 games on FloSports in FCS. The importance of those games in FBS replace the importance of the playoff games in FCS. It's not something that can be explained until you experience the difference. The playoff in FBS is essentially a week in and week out process.

I’m not pointing to viewership as the reason to stay. I’m not the AD or President of the university. I don’t care how many virtual billboards there are. I don’t give a ****. Really. I’m a fan. Not a university official. A fan. I’d rather see us play SFA, Lamar, ACU in front of 7000 fans, being broadcasted on ESPN+ on a Saturday afternoon with nobody watching than I would see us play LaTech or UTEP on national tv. I don’t care what channel we’re on. It’s about me having fun. And playing against teams that are 4-5 hours from us max, in a regional conference with longtime opponents, for a shot at a real national title is SIGNIFICANTLY more fun than going FBS.

Like everyone on here has pointed out, we have standard FCS facilities which would need serious work to get to FBS level. We have a standard FCS fanbase that draws half the FBS requirement. Sounds to me like we’re better suited to stay here as opposed to playing with the “have-nots” of the “big leagues”.

(11-02-2021 05:27 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  

(11-02-2021 03:53 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-02-2021 03:49 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Are you guys really going to FloSports? And can they pay equal to or more than what the league was getting through their current agreements?

Is this a serious question? No, we’re not going to FloSports? WTF is FloSports?

FloSports is like ESPN+

Just no one has it!

The CAA utilizes FloSports and not sure their people are thrilled because it’s not where the significant majority of eyes are like ESPN+ which is cheaper and more accessible

ESPN+ is way cheaper. FLo Sports used to be $40 a game with horrible quality...

(11-02-2021 04:42 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  I just think adding all these teams is a bad mistake. The Power Conference is going to split and god knows what's going to happen then. The
mew FBS teams will find themselves back in FCS (or something similar), along with 70 of their newfound FBS G5 friends, many of them are going to be pissed off.

The best thing that could happen is everyone leave and CUSA just shuts the dam door. I don't see that happening if Liberty is going to start bankrolling CUSA though.


Sincerely, concerned

MU Alum.

It won’t even be just the P5 breaking away. It’ll be 30-50 “select teams” to break away for their own division or completely leaving the NCAA. Teams like Rutgers, Wake Forest (despite their recent success), and Colorado will be cast aside. We’re seeing the perception split be planted with the playoff committee.

If the FCS National Championship was so important I feel like SHSU would average for than 7k a game against other FCS Texas teams and other FCS powerhouses. I also feel every team that has moved up from 1-AA to 1-A wouldn't have moved.

FBS > FCS in every aspect if your athletic administration can afford it.

(11-03-2021 11:21 AM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 08:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Seriously, who the hell is Sam Houston and Jacksonville State?

You are a nothing at the FCS level. You should be grateful you're getting an opportunity to come up.

“You are nothing at the FCS level”. Defending Champs? 3 recent title game appearances? 8 playoffs in 10 years? Sounds like a nobody to me… but surely going to the Gasparilla Bowl would make us a somebody in the world of college sports

Grateful? What’s there to be grateful about? Joining the worst conference in the FBS that’s ever existed? Playing on the island of misfit toys of the FBS level, including the “Make-A-Wish” kid of FBS, NMST? Be grateful for a shot at the Shreveport Independence Bowl? Yeah, I’ll keep acting ungrateful. Take UCONN, I’m sure they’d be grateful being in this conference!

No you misunderstood my take.

If you play at the FCS level, you are nothing.

We are almost completely irrelevant at the G5 level, and at the FCS level you have even less attention.

(11-03-2021 10:33 AM)JohnGoodmanMSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 08:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Seriously, who the hell is Sam Houston and Jacksonville State?

You are a nothing at the FCS level. You should be grateful you're getting an opportunity to come up.

Woah. Is this how most Marshall fans feel? I'd much rather go to Frisco and play on ESPN for the FCS title than play in the Poulan Weed-Eater Bowl against some other 6-6 team. I just don't get the appeal of it. It'd be fun to play higher profile teams in the non-conference but the rest of it doesn't seem that grand to be honest.

Good, then go back to your board...if you have one.

(11-03-2021 11:47 AM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 11:36 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 11:21 AM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 08:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Seriously, who the hell is Sam Houston and Jacksonville State?

You are a nothing at the FCS level. You should be grateful you're getting an opportunity to come up.

“You are nothing at the FCS level”. Defending Champs? 3 recent title game appearances? 8 playoffs in 10 years? Sounds like a nobody to me… but surely going to the Gasparilla Bowl would make us a somebody in the world of college sports

Grateful? What’s there to be grateful about? Joining the worst conference in the FBS that’s ever existed? Playing on the island of misfit toys of the FBS level, including the “Make-A-Wish” kid of FBS, NMST? Be grateful for a shot at the Shreveport Independence Bowl? Yeah, I’ll keep acting ungrateful. Take UCONN, I’m sure they’d be grateful being in this conference!

It boils down to this. You all point to viewership of the National Championship Game as a reason to stay. What are the odds of getting to that game year in and year out? Not great. What are the odds you get another game on National Television? Low.

If the purpose of athletics is to act as a walking billboard for your school, FBS is the way to go. App State will have around 7 or 8 of their 14 games on a linear ESPN channel. Each game will have between 400,000 and 1.1 million or so viewers. The math says that the viewership for App State is consistently higher than that of Sam Houston State's one game, if they get there.

Most former FCS schools get the draw of the FCS Playoffs. But nothing beats playing Marshall, ECU, and UNC in Boone with an equal number of scholarships on National Television versus playing them with 63 on the road and then getting The Citadel, Wofford, Mars Hill, Furman, etc. for conference or out of conference play.

There is a big difference between 31,000 on a Wednesday or Thursday night on ESPN against an AP Top 25 team and playing Top 25 games on FloSports in FCS. The importance of those games in FBS replace the importance of the playoff games in FCS. It's not something that can be explained until you experience the difference. The playoff in FBS is essentially a week in and week out process.

I’m not pointing to viewership as the reason to stay. I’m not the AD or President of the university. I don’t care how many virtual billboards there are. I don’t give a ****. Really. I’m a fan. Not a university official. A fan. I’d rather see us play SFA, Lamar, ACU in front of 7000 fans, being broadcasted on ESPN+ on a Saturday afternoon with nobody watching than I would see us play LaTech or UTEP on national tv. I don’t care what channel we’re on. It’s about me having fun. And playing against teams that are 4-5 hours from us max, in a regional conference with longtime opponents, for a shot at a real national title is SIGNIFICANTLY more fun than going FBS.

Like everyone on here has pointed out, we have standard FCS facilities which would need serious work to get to FBS level. We have a standard FCS fanbase that draws half the FBS requirement. Sounds to me like we’re better suited to stay here as opposed to playing with the “have-nots” of the “big leagues”.

Louisiana Tech is a have not?

Louisiana Tech was left behind as a function of their location, not because of their performance in athletics. The Sun Belt needed Eastern teams and one Western team that could bridge Alabama and Louisiana. If Texas State goes to the MWC or WAC in the future, I'd imagine Louisiana Tech would be the first call from the Sun Belt.

If you would rather play those programs, that's your prerogative. But it sounds like a lot of your apprehension is inward bound, not outward. Concern about facitilies, money, fan support, being a small fish in a smaller pond, etc.

I agree with you, I believe that Sam Houston should remain FCS. I was just pointing out that your perspective about those regular season match-ups change once your attendance jumps to 20,000 and you're playing a night game on ESPN against UTEP or UTSA.

All you FCS fanboys, go ask JMU fans where they would rather be.

FCS or FBS

I have never watched an FCS playoff game in my entire life.

I'm 40 years old, and I grew into being a Marshall fan right after our 1A (FBS) jump.

I feel like I'm not in the minority when I say....no, I've never seen an FCS game.

CUSA has a core of 5 FBS shools in place, if these FCS call UPS don't want to come, there are many more that they could build around. Go after the Dakota schools and UConn/UMass for football only.

(11-03-2021 12:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have never watched an FCS playoff game in my entire life.

I'm 40 years old, and I grew into being a Marshall fan right after our 1A (FBS) jump.

I feel like I'm not in the minority when I say....no, I've never seen an FCS game.

CUSA has a core of 5 FBS shools in place, if these FCS call UPS don't want to come, there are many more that they could build around. Go after the Dakota schools and UConn/UMass for football only.

Me neither and I wouldn't be surprised if an FCS school says they don't watch G5 football. As you mentioned earlier, if we're almost irrelevant in the eyes of the p5 what does that make FCS teams?

(11-03-2021 01:08 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 12:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have never watched an FCS playoff game in my entire life.

I'm 40 years old, and I grew into being a Marshall fan right after our 1A (FBS) jump.

I feel like I'm not in the minority when I say....no, I've never seen an FCS game.

CUSA has a core of 5 FBS shools in place, if these FCS call UPS don't want to come, there are many more that they could build around. Go after the Dakota schools and UConn/UMass for football only.

Me neither and I wouldn't be surprised if an FCS school says they don't watch G5 football. As you mentioned earlier, if we're almost irrelevant in the eyes of the p5 what does that make FCS teams?

Power 5 wasn't a term until ESPN created it following the creation of the CFP in order to justify their selections and distributions of cash. Prior to that, it was just FBS. It still is just FBS so long as the Purdue's, Rutgers, Duke's, Vanderbilt's, Wake Forest's, etc. are still included.

There are 10 to 15 programs that comprise the "P5" who are that much better than anyone else. Otherwise, it's a mash-up in terms of performance.

(11-03-2021 01:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 01:08 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 12:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have never watched an FCS playoff game in my entire life.

I'm 40 years old, and I grew into being a Marshall fan right after our 1A (FBS) jump.

I feel like I'm not in the minority when I say....no, I've never seen an FCS game.

CUSA has a core of 5 FBS shools in place, if these FCS call UPS don't want to come, there are many more that they could build around. Go after the Dakota schools and UConn/UMass for football only.

Me neither and I wouldn't be surprised if an FCS school says they don't watch G5 football. As you mentioned earlier, if we're almost irrelevant in the eyes of the p5 what does that make FCS teams?

Power 5 wasn't a term until ESPN created it following the creation of the CFP in order to justify their selections and distributions of cash. Prior to that, it was just FBS. It still is just FBS so long as the Purdue's, Rutgers, Duke's, Vanderbilt's, Wake Forest's, etc. are still included.

There are 10 to 15 programs that comprise the "P5" who are that much better than anyone else. Otherwise, it's a mash-up in terms of performance.

Before that we called them BCS schools.

(11-03-2021 01:34 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 12:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have never watched an FCS playoff game in my entire life.

I'm 40 years old, and I grew into being a Marshall fan right after our 1A (FBS) jump.

I feel like I'm not in the minority when I say....no, I've never seen an FCS game.

CUSA has a core of 5 FBS shools in place, if these FCS call UPS don't want to come, there are many more that they could build around. Go after the Dakota schools and UConn/UMass for football only.

“IF”??? “IF” we don’t want to come??? Has it not been made abundantly clear?? WE DON’T WANT TO JOIN CONFERENCE USA. Maybe Eastern Kentucky or Murray State are desperate enough to move. CUSA invite them.

Any more of your garbage and you're done over here.

(11-03-2021 01:34 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 01:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 01:08 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 12:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have never watched an FCS playoff game in my entire life.

I'm 40 years old, and I grew into being a Marshall fan right after our 1A (FBS) jump.

I feel like I'm not in the minority when I say....no, I've never seen an FCS game.

CUSA has a core of 5 FBS shools in place, if these FCS call UPS don't want to come, there are many more that they could build around. Go after the Dakota schools and UConn/UMass for football only.

Me neither and I wouldn't be surprised if an FCS school says they don't watch G5 football. As you mentioned earlier, if we're almost irrelevant in the eyes of the p5 what does that make FCS teams?

Power 5 wasn't a term until ESPN created it following the creation of the CFP in order to justify their selections and distributions of cash. Prior to that, it was just FBS. It still is just FBS so long as the Purdue's, Rutgers, Duke's, Vanderbilt's, Wake Forest's, etc. are still included.

There are 10 to 15 programs that comprise the "P5" who are that much better than anyone else. Otherwise, it's a mash-up in terms of performance.

Before that we called them BCS schools.

Yeah, but they weren't based on conferences. BCS schools. You knew which schools had a chance. Everyone else was lumped in with one another. Everyone knew Louisiana Tech was better than Purdue, Boise State was as good as Oregon, etc.

If that Blount knock-out punch happened today, do we think Boise State would get the proper amount of credit for winning the game? Or would Oregon have "lost" the game?

The perception and messaging was different. Now everything is done to justify what the rankings are going to be in the CFP. Mississippi State has been bad, yet they are ranked. Why? The beat Texas A&M and Texas A&M beat Alabama who beat down MSU.

It's all a circular justification for who is put where. It's a game. Power 5 is about framing a message. Vanderbilt is power 5 because of their conference, not because they lose 23-3 to ETSU.

Repeat a lie enough, it becomes truth.

(11-03-2021 10:52 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 10:49 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 10:43 AM)JohnGoodmanMSU Wrote:  I believe both Missouri State and Marshall are 5-3. MSU has a big game in Carbondale against a really good SIU team that has massive playoff implications. I am sure at practice this week they are talking about winning this game and if they make the playoffs, they have a shot to win a national title. We are far from the best team but we have played the top teams close so there is a chance.

Marshall plays FAU this week. I suppose winning the division is on their minds, but it feels like the big thing in CUSA would be winning games so that you can get the Independence Bowl bid and not have to fall to a less glamorous bowl like the Lending Tree bowl. That's fun I guess but what does it ultimately matter if you get the lesser bowl. Less money for the school I would reckon, but does it really matter to the fans? It's just another exhibition game either way.

We get it you don't have to try and convince us any further. There are other schools that want to move up and take your place. Good luck in your game against SIU. By the way who is SIU? I've never heard of them.

Southern Illinois University. The Salukis. I had a cousin that attended the main campus in Carbondale. They play in the Missouri Valley Conference, and they're not that bad either.

Not getting in on this argument lol

Sagarin ratings for the week:

Marshall 75
WKU 80
FAU 84
UAB 86
SIU 101
MTSU 103
Missouri State 109
LA Tech 116
UTEP 121
Charlotte 132
ODU 135
UNT 143
Rice 151
USM 161
FIU 173

(11-03-2021 01:38 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 01:34 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 01:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 01:08 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 12:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have never watched an FCS playoff game in my entire life.

I'm 40 years old, and I grew into being a Marshall fan right after our 1A (FBS) jump.

I feel like I'm not in the minority when I say....no, I've never seen an FCS game.

CUSA has a core of 5 FBS shools in place, if these FCS call UPS don't want to come, there are many more that they could build around. Go after the Dakota schools and UConn/UMass for football only.

Me neither and I wouldn't be surprised if an FCS school says they don't watch G5 football. As you mentioned earlier, if we're almost irrelevant in the eyes of the p5 what does that make FCS teams?

Power 5 wasn't a term until ESPN created it following the creation of the CFP in order to justify their selections and distributions of cash. Prior to that, it was just FBS. It still is just FBS so long as the Purdue's, Rutgers, Duke's, Vanderbilt's, Wake Forest's, etc. are still included.

There are 10 to 15 programs that comprise the "P5" who are that much better than anyone else. Otherwise, it's a mash-up in terms of performance.

Before that we called them BCS schools.

Yeah, but they weren't based on conferences. BCS schools. You knew which schools had a chance. Everyone else was lumped in with one another. Everyone knew Louisiana Tech was better than Purdue, Boise State was as good as Oregon, etc.

If that Blount knock-out punch happened today, do we think Boise State would get the proper amount of credit for winning the game? Or would Oregon have "lost" the game?

The perception and messaging was different. Now everything is done to justify what the rankings are going to be in the CFP. Mississippi State has been bad, yet they are ranked. Why? The beat Texas A&M and Texas A&M beat Alabama who beat down MSU.

It's all a circular justification for who is put where. It's a game. Power 5 is about framing a message. Vanderbilt is power 5 because of their conference, not because they lose 23-3 to ETSU.

Repeat a lie enough, it becomes truth.

They were called AQ BCS conferences.

(11-03-2021 01:30 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-03-2021 12:53 PM)rileylives Wrote:  All you FCS fanboys, go ask JMU fans where they would rather be.

FCS or FBS

Why not ask Sam Houston fans how they feel? Sam Houston is as much an FCS school as JMU is. Both are being courted by FBS conferences… why not ask our fans? I’ll tell you the answer to FCS or FBS from our perspective. FCS. Just because FCS isn’t right for *your* school doesn’t mean it isn’t for ours. But we’re just one school…

Why not ask Jacksonville State fans how they feel? JSU is as much an FCS school as JMU is. Both are being courted by FBS conferences… why not ask their fans? I saw a comment on their board of “we just bought a ticket to eternal irrelevance”. Another one says “horrible decision if true”. Seems to me they prefer FCS.

Why not ask Missouri State fans how they feel? Missouri State is as much an FCS school as JMU is. Both are being courted by FBS conferences… why not ask their fans? Their fans were up in arms when the article about a move to CUSA came out. Someone here quite literally said they’d rather play SIU-Carbondale than a list of AAC schools.

Don’t give a damn if we’re playing in front of 20,000 against UTEP on National TV. Competitively CUSA sucks. Don’t care about the LendingTree Bowl. It’s the bottom rung of the upper-level. Football is entertainment. CUSA isn’t entertaining. I’ve never watched a CUSA football game, and I don’t plan on doing so. Why should we just mindlessly be grateful and accept?

Dude, I have never been more tempted to negative rep someone.

If this is how you truly feel, you deserve to be in the minor leagues.

CUSA offered all of you an olive branch, and your spitting right in their face.

None of you have any reason whatsoever to look down on Conference USA. Yet instead of having a rational conversation like your peers have done, you have pissed all over yourself and made yourself look like a fool.

(11-03-2021 01:30 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Why not ask Missouri State fans how they feel? Missouri State is as much an FCS school as JMU is. Both are being courted by FBS conferences… why not ask their fans? Their fans were up in arms when the article about a move to CUSA came out. Someone here quite literally said they’d rather play SIU-Carbondale than a list of AAC schools.

That's literally never happened. We would love FBS, but don't want to cannibalize our storied basketball programs.