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MAC expands from 12 to 14
Looks like we're adding Western KY & Middle Tennessee State.

new west div:
Middle TN state
Western KY
Miami
Ohio U
Ball st
NIU
WMU

new east div:
KSU
akron
UB
BGSU
Toledo
EMU
CMU
11-02-2021 02:02 AM
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
(11-02-2021 02:02 AM)GoKsuFlashes! Wrote:  Looks like we're adding Western KY & Middle Tennessee State.

new west div:
Middle TN state
Western KY
Miami
Ohio U
Ball st
NIU
WMU

new east div:
KSU
akron
UB
BGSU
Toledo
EMU
CMU

Is this the final setup/ I also heard talk about 4 divisions.
11-02-2021 08:07 AM
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
re. what the divisions will look like: i'd imagine its a work in progress, but 14 is only divisible by 2 & 7.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
I would actually be surprised if the two new schools aren’t added to the West and Toledo moved to the East to make a Buffalo and Ohio division and an everyone else division. But I really have no idea what the people making that decision are thinking.
11-02-2021 10:33 AM
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
Middle Tennessee was awful last year in basketball, but has historically been pretty good. Western Kentucky has a proud basketball tradition.

At least Marshall hasn't signed up for a third tour of MAC duty.
11-02-2021 03:58 PM
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
Eh, been there, done that. What’s the over/under on how long these colleges stay?

I’m going with 4 for Western Ky and 5 for Middle TN. They’ll jump for a conference that is better geographically and oriented towards BB.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
(11-02-2021 04:06 PM)bopol Wrote:  Eh, been there, done that. What’s the over/under on how long these colleges stay?

I’m going with 4 for Western Ky and 5 for Middle TN. They’ll jump for a conference that is better geographically and oriented towards BB.

Agree. Marshall announced recently that they are leaving Conference USA, joining Western Kentucky and MTNU, for the Sun Belt, leaving Conference USA with only five teams committed long-term, according to news reports. Not only has player transfers ratcheted up in recent years, so has whole teams switching conferences. It's hard to keep track.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
(11-02-2021 04:26 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  
(11-02-2021 04:06 PM)bopol Wrote:  Eh, been there, done that. What’s the over/under on how long these colleges stay?

I’m going with 4 for Western Ky and 5 for Middle TN. They’ll jump for a conference that is better geographically and oriented towards BB.

Agree. Marshall announced recently that they are leaving Conference USA, joining Western Kentucky and MTNU, for the Sun Belt, leaving Conference USA with only five teams committed long-term, according to news reports. Not only has player transfers ratcheted up in recent years, so has whole teams switching conferences. It's hard to keep track.


I’m hearing this is not yet a done deal. One writer at Yahoo.

Marshall won’t be back in MAC. Academics are not up to par and most schools will not vote them back in.

However good TV markets for the MAC. Louisville and Nashville.
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Bishop Sycamore is looking for a place to play.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
(11-02-2021 08:00 PM)Older and Older Wrote:  
(11-02-2021 04:26 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  
(11-02-2021 04:06 PM)bopol Wrote:  Eh, been there, done that. What’s the over/under on how long these colleges stay?

I’m going with 4 for Western Ky and 5 for Middle TN. They’ll jump for a conference that is better geographically and oriented towards BB.

Agree. Marshall announced recently that they are leaving Conference USA, joining Western Kentucky and MTNU, for the Sun Belt, leaving Conference USA with only five teams committed long-term, according to news reports. Not only has player transfers ratcheted up in recent years, so has whole teams switching conferences. It's hard to keep track.


I’m hearing this is not yet a done deal. One writer at Yahoo.

Marshall won’t be back in MAC. Academics are not up to par and most schools will not vote them back in.

However good TV markets for the MAC. Louisville and Nashville.

I was joking about Marshall and a third tour of duty. As I said, they are going to the Sun Belt.
11-03-2021 09:04 AM
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(11-02-2021 09:36 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  Bishop Sycamore is looking for a place to play.

That’s awesome!
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
(11-02-2021 10:33 AM)axeme Wrote:  I would actually be surprised if the two new schools aren’t added to the West and Toledo moved to the East to make a Buffalo and Ohio division and an everyone else division. But I really have no idea what the people making that decision are thinking.

Puts Toledo and BG back together as they should be
11-03-2021 07:24 PM
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
(11-03-2021 07:24 PM)burden Wrote:  
(11-02-2021 10:33 AM)axeme Wrote:  I would actually be surprised if the two new schools aren’t added to the West and Toledo moved to the East to make a Buffalo and Ohio division and an everyone else division. But I really have no idea what the people making that decision are thinking.

Puts Toledo and BG back together as they should be

This would make the conference even more lopsided in basketball. Last year 7 teams were above .500. The whole East, and Toledo. The west has been weaker for a while and UT is generally the best.
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(11-03-2021 07:39 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(11-03-2021 07:24 PM)burden Wrote:  
(11-02-2021 10:33 AM)axeme Wrote:  I would actually be surprised if the two new schools aren’t added to the West and Toledo moved to the East to make a Buffalo and Ohio division and an everyone else division. But I really have no idea what the people making that decision are thinking.

Puts Toledo and BG back together as they should be

This would make the conference even more lopsided in basketball. Last year 7 teams were above .500. The whole East, and Toledo. The west has been weaker for a while and UT is generally the best.

Moot point. No divisions in basketball anymore.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
Teams no longer play every team in the old divisions twice. For example, the Flashes only play Miami once this season, I think, and UB and Ohio only play once, etc.
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Ah I was thinking no divisions was only for the COVID shortened year. Good to know.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
More a like North/Suth divisions.


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(11-02-2021 02:02 AM)GoKsuFlashes! Wrote:  Looks like we're adding Western KY & Middle Tennessee State.

new west div:
Middle TN state
Western KY
Miami
Ohio U
Ball st
NIU
WMU

new east div:
KSU
akron
UB
BGSU
Toledo
EMU
CMU
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
MAC was last conference with basketball divisions. Didn’t affect toutrnament seedlings, so all they meant was a championship banner.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
The divisions did effect schedule though. I forgot about the fact we dropped divisions. I guess that means there will be years we only play Akron once. That will suck. If we go to 14 teams i wonder if they will come back.
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RE: MAC expands from 12 to 14
No need for divisions. MAC will keep the rivalry games intact.
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