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(12-10-2021 10:29 PM)Bronco1974 Wrote:  Dropped from #1 to #3.

The sweep at Denver raising its ugly head.

Interesting that we split with UNO and drop from #1 to #7 in Pairwise while Michigan splits with Ohio State and ..............goes up to a tie for #1? Does Pairwise take into account home vs. road games?

As more games are played the these swings will be less drastic. We're still in a good spot.

For the Michigan comparison WMU loses in RPI, and in common opponents. Head to Head WMU is 1-1 vs UMD, and Michigan is 1-0 vs them. Each team has a win against each other, so the score is 3-1 Michigan.

RPI does take into consideration road wins, and there are adjustments if you win vs an opponent that would drop your RPI. Basically, win games against other teams that are high up in the RPI. The loss to UNO was harsh because losing at home to them was an RPI bullet (they are currently 15). There is still plenty of games left for WMU to recover if they win.

So far all 5 of our losses have been to ranked teams which doesn’t hurt us as bad like if we lost to Colgate or Miami.

(12-12-2021 05:17 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  So far all 5 of our losses have been to ranked teams which doesn’t hurt us as bad like if we lost to Colgate or Miami.

It is still very early, but the sweep at Denver is what is flipping most of the comparisons against us right now.

Yes, losing against Colgate or Miami would have been much more painful.

(12-12-2021 07:32 PM)WesternDave Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 05:17 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  So far all 5 of our losses have been to ranked teams which doesn’t hurt us as bad like if we lost to Colgate or Miami.

It is still very early, but the sweep at Denver is what is flipping most of the comparisons against us right now.

Yes, losing against Colgate or Miami would have been much more painful.

Right but as long as Denver continues to win, it doesn’t hurt us as bad, am I right? Or? Lol

Sometimes this pairwise stuff confuses me

Please don't take offense if it feels like I am overexplaining things you probably already know.

Pairwise is seperated into 3 comparisons.
1. RPI rating.
2. Record against Common Opponents
3. Head to Head record. (You earn a full point per win)

Winning each comparison earns you one point.

Against Michigan we lose RPI .5966 to .5851. 1-0 Michigan
We lose Common Opponents as we both have played Duluth. Michigan is 1-0 against them, and we are 1-1. 2-0 Michigan
Head to head we are one victory apiece against them. Michigan 3-1 winning the comparison.

Taking the Denver comparison.

Against Denver we lose RPI .5988 to .5851. 1-0 Denver
We tie the Common Opponents. Both teams are 1-1 against UMD, and 2-0 against Miami. 1-0 Denver still.
Head to head we are 0-2. 3-0 Denver winning the comparison.

If we had split against Denver then the Pios winning is good for us, but we were swept, so we get nothing other than more losing COMMON OPPONENT comparisons when Denver loses. So, best case is we sweep Denver in the return series at Lawson. That will bring back the H2H comparison, and likely help us in the overall RPI comparison as well. Will a WMU home sweep be enough to pass them in RPI? Who the heck knows. The RPI will change a ton before that happens again, but winning is always good. This is why people say to not look at PWR until at least the end of January.

So yes, Denver continuing to win helps DU's RPI, which then gives us a good win for our RPI rating, but we need to beat them in the future games. So, it all boils down to just winning your schedule to not need to worry about all this mess.

Edit: Small but important corrections. Also the last bit about winning. Cuz just win, duh.

(12-12-2021 09:35 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 07:32 PM)WesternDave Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 05:17 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  So far all 5 of our losses have been to ranked teams which doesn’t hurt us as bad like if we lost to Colgate or Miami.

It is still very early, but the sweep at Denver is what is flipping most of the comparisons against us right now.

Yes, losing against Colgate or Miami would have been much more painful.

Right but as long as Denver continues to win, it doesn’t hurt us as bad, am I right? Or? Lol

Sometimes this pairwise stuff confuses me

It's too bad the pairwise doesn't account for the flu because I heard it hit our team hard during the Denver series.

We remain ranked #4 in the USCHO poll. Omaha stays at #14 as well

#3 in this weeks uscho poll

(01-03-2022 01:12 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  #3 in this weeks uscho poll

And The blue molester enablers down to #6

Pretty clear the pollsters goes as if WMU beat Michigan on the ice.

I felt like MSU deserved a little more out of this week's rankings. They're going to sneak up on some people.

Rona creeping up again, already postponed Denver and Omaha this weekend.

I swear if Rona shuts down another special season for us, I’m done.

I think a lot of people would be done. It's not happening again.

I would expect quite a few schedule disruptions the second half of this season. And don’t be shocked if attendance starts getting restricted soon.

(01-04-2022 06:41 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Rona creeping up again, already postponed Denver and Omaha this weekend.

I swear if Rona shuts down another special season for us, I’m done.

I don't think anything will get canceled this time around.

But, I can see January & February being a disaster in terms of postponed games & shorthanded rosters.

UMD and SCSU now postponed for this weekend............

Many to come.

(01-05-2022 06:47 PM)Doo Wrote:  Many to come.

Unfortunately, Doo is probably right. Lots of unvaccinated people and many people not masking in public does not bode well. I go to all the home games and despite the signs many do not wear masks and many wear them incorrectly..........not covering the nose is the same as not wearing a mask. I hope the season makes it because there may be too many cancelled games that can be made up,