You do you Marshall.

More power to them in the rebranded “WTF” league lol

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

I can give you 31 reasons why your statement is incorrect. Perhaps if you looked at it 28 times, the fallacy of your statement might dawn on you.

(10-28-2021 08:43 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Let’s say’s you can forget the Liberty baggage from the last 40 years. Great, but why in the hell would you want them after what has come out in the last 3 days?

Man….it’s never going to stop with these guys. From telletubbies to pool boys, it will never end. Rumor in Virginia is that many of the Title IX complaints that were swept under the rug involved athletes.

To be fair none of us would want to have our programs under the constant microscope they are always under from heavily biased media, hell-bent to blast if someone stubs their toe there. Michigan, LSU and Arizona going through similar ordeals as we speak lol. So I hope all these moral high ground haters keep that same energy when they get a home and home with Baylor, Mich, Arizona etc.It will never end as long as folks have an ax to grind with them or any team as they will always default negative. We all know why as well for the most part being politics and religion neither of which has anything to do with their football team. I find what super liberal schools spout and let kids get away with highly disgusting as well but I am not going to be some whiny little b, if GS plays their football team. Some of the claims go back 20 years and were anonymous. Calling BS on some of that, never mind the fact that no current leader has probably been there that long or was in the position to do anything about it. Name one school that wants every incident to look at the last two decades to see if was handled absolutely the best way.

UConn sources say today that they turned down an unsolicited call from CUSA. Matt Brown is reporting that MoSt is no longer a candidate for CUSA.


Let's say the CUSA5 do lock in NMSU. This just seems more likely that Tarleton and Jacksonville State will be who the CUSA goes with. And that's not a bad thing.

Tarleton has tons of money to spend. No reason that can't turn into a 6-6 FBS team in a few years, much like UNT. Jacksonville State would be able to compete with WKU and LaTech right out of the gate, IMO. They'd definitely be better than NMSU, UTEP, MTSU and FIU. So a couple of mid-pack adds would help the top of the conference pad their record. Which will help the overall conference moving forward. If they can put UMass on a FB only contract that's 9, enough for a CCG. This gives the conference time to continue to work with potential adds like NDSU, SDSU, MoSt, SHSU, SFA, EKU, UTC, or even the great white whale, Liberty.

That puts 2023 CUSA:

FIU
WKU
MTSU
JaxSt
LaTech
Tarleton
UTEP
NMSU


Survivable in the short-term and starts to move the conference to an area of the country that is undeserved by the G5.

(10-29-2021 08:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:43 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Let’s say’s you can forget the Liberty baggage from the last 40 years. Great, but why in the hell would you want them after what has come out in the last 3 days?

Man….it’s never going to stop with these guys. From telletubbies to pool boys, it will never end. Rumor in Virginia is that many of the Title IX complaints that were swept under the rug involved athletes.

To be fair none of us would want to have our programs under the constant microscope they are always under from heavily biased media, hell-bent to blast if someone stubs their toe there. Michigan, LSU and Arizona going through similar ordeals as we speak lol. So I hope all these moral high ground haters keep that same energy when they get a home and home with Baylor, Mich, Arizona etc.It will never end as long as folks have an ax to grind with them or any team as they will always default negative. We all know why as well for the most part being politics and religion neither of which has anything to do with their football team. I find what super liberal schools spout and let kids get away with highly disgusting as well but I am not going to be some whiny little b, if GS plays their football team. Some of the claims go back 20 years and were anonymous. Calling BS on some of that, never mind the fact that no current leader has probably been there that long or was in the position to do anything about it. Name one school that wants every incident to look at the last two decades to see if was handled absolutely the best way.

Do I mind playing them in any sport? No. Do I want to see GS share a conference with them? No not really. It's not up to me or probably anyone that even reads these boards but they just have too much baggage. I'm glad they got the waver to be FBS and they seem to be doing OK as a independent so I'll give them all the respect they deserve on the playing field but that's as far as I'll go.

Them adding existing FBS schools benefits the G5 conferences. The last thing we need is more FCS programs adding 22 scholarships and diluting the talent pool further.

JMU would have been on CUSAs list if we had taken WKU instead.

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

(10-29-2021 09:43 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

if you take into account all sports, original poster is not wrong. Liberty would be better than most CUSA and Sun Belt teams.

Can't wait for the primetime C-USA football broadcasts on OAN and TBN!

(10-29-2021 09:52 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 09:43 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

if you take into account all sports, original poster is not wrong. Liberty would be better than most CUSA and Sun Belt teams.

Scandals are not a recognized NCAA sport, although there is a proud tradition there

(10-29-2021 09:52 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 09:43 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

if you take into account all sports, original poster is not wrong. Liberty would be better than most CUSA and Sun Belt teams.

Liberty isn't better than us who as an FCS school. They're not better than CUSA even in its current weakened state and they're certainly not better than anyone in the SunBelt. You're delusional.

SWEET RESUME LIBERTY!!!

(10-29-2021 09:55 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 09:52 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 09:43 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

if you take into account all sports, original poster is not wrong. Liberty would be better than most CUSA and Sun Belt teams.

Scandals are not a recognized NCAA sport, although there is a proud tradition there

(10-29-2021 09:43 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

Why is this so funny? Liberty took down #12 Coastal last year. They lost a fluke game to ULM by 3 points. You could argue they’re not the best but it’s not such an outlandish suggestion so as to be funny. It’s probably a toss up between them and Coastal/App/Louisiana on any given night.

(10-29-2021 10:15 AM)2009panther Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 09:43 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

Why is this so funny? Liberty took down #12 Coastal last year. They lost a fluke game to ULM by 3 points. You could argue they’re not the best but it’s not such an outlandish suggestion so as to be funny. It’s probably a toss up between them and Coastal/App/Louisiana on any given night.

Sorry, you guys keep moving the goalpost. Is it last year or this year? Is it just football or the whole program? I can't keep up with what we're judging, it's almost like it's done that way intentionally...

(10-29-2021 08:08 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  UConn sources say today that they turned down an unsolicited call from CUSA. Matt Brown is reporting that MoSt is no longer a candidate for CUSA.


Let's say the CUSA5 do lock in NMSU. This just seems more likely that Tarleton and Jacksonville State will be who the CUSA goes with. And that's not a bad thing.

Tarleton has tons of money to spend. No reason that can't turn into a 6-6 FBS team in a few years, much like UNT. Jacksonville State would be able to compete with WKU and LaTech right out of the gate, IMO. They'd definitely be better than NMSU, UTEP, MTSU and FIU. So a couple of mid-pack adds would help the top of the conference pad their record. Which will help the overall conference moving forward. If they can put UMass on a FB only contract that's 9, enough for a CCG. This gives the conference time to continue to work with potential adds like NDSU, SDSU, MoSt, SHSU, SFA, EKU, UTC, or even the great white whale, Liberty.

That puts 2023 CUSA:

FIU
WKU
MTSU
JaxSt
LaTech
Tarleton
UTEP
NMSU


Survivable in the short-term and starts to move the conference to an area of the country that is undeserved by the G5.

Hello . . Hello . . UCONN? … UConn, are you there? . . . UConn, can you hear me?

HELLO . . . Operator . . Hello. . Operator . . Operator, I’m trying to reach UConn,

Operator, are you there? Anybody ? Anybody? Can anybody hear me?

This is CUSA calling for UConn . . . Can anyone hear me?

Aaawww the hell with it, somebody fire up my Jeep, looks like I’m going on a road trip.

(10-28-2021 10:45 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 08:44 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1453...16737?s=21

Really? Would it be? Look who we've had in here. Now that a lot of the bottom feeders are leaving, these new additions are not that bad. How is Uconn worse than ODU, Rice, UNT or USM? Liberty is better than every team in CUSA and pretty much the belt too right now. It's a good save to get the exit fees and now Marshall is dragging their feet for a reason. If we keep Marshall, CUSA is looking just fine with a lot of baggage gone.

September 7, 2019: Louisiana 35 - Liberty 14

For the first time I am actually a bit concerned about the Marshall situation.
Consider:
- The addition of NMSU mitigates the UTEP issue.
- The addition of Liberty infuses CUSA with an almost unlimited source of cash, and good athletics top to bottom.
- CUSA will be in fairly good shape with the 8x 4 million dollars in exit fees distributed to it's existing members, plus new entrance fees.
- The addition of SHSU is not terrible for LaTech
- WKU, MTSU, Liberty, and Marshall would make the core of a fairly decent footprint with the possibility of adding EKU
- LaTech, NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, FIU make another, with the possibility of adding Jax State as well.

While not a great situation, if you consider that Marshall would save 4 mil in exit fees and whatever the SBC entrance fee is, plus gain whatever portion of of the $36 million exit fees from USSM, ODU , and the AAC six, it could make sense.
And, as the CBS reporter noted, Marshall would be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.

That could also make it more problematic for the SBC to add the 14th, as WKU, MTSU, and La Tech might no longer be in play.

It would be so so so SHORTSIGHTED though.