(11-09-2021 04:20 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  No one is able to tell me who the donors are? Sounds like fake news.

I read The Blade articles. My memory could be wrong, but I don't think any donors were named in the article.

I know that there are divides right now but if we get the right AD in a short time we'll be moving ahead to where we all want to be.

Who knows that the new AD won't align with new donors who have not been on board up to now and they change things dramatically.

(11-09-2021 09:00 PM)rocket 51 Wrote:  I know that there are divides right now but if we get the right AD in a short time we'll be moving ahead to where we all want to be.

Who knows that the new AD won't align with new donors who have not been on board up to now and they change things dramatically.

We know that getting donors on-board will be the job of the new AD. :shrug:

I'm not sure what expertise I'm supposed to see in this "search" committee but hopefully they're not inexperienced in the process and their eyes are open to new needs. And if some "donors" aren't, maybe it is time for those particulars to move on. Others will fill the needs.

Harsh but I believe a true loyal donor that gets butt-hurt their AD isn't hired will settle down and come around to support the University and the old AD will do his best to help that happen.

Too many programs have been left hanging because old-guard wanted to be the person to help until their dying breath. The best way to help a person move on is to make sure they have a helpful, not interfering way path to move-on and be productive. Ultimately the committee has to presume Mr. O'Brien and his loyals want the best for the University and will work faithfully to make that happen.

Got the chance to see Coach Pinkel during the 50th anniversary celebration of the Championship teams vs. WMU. He was in the lobby of the hotel the night before for a long time. Prior to the game he was up at the Pavillion as well. He certainly appears to have a strong place for the Rockets. I remember his appearance at his induction into the Rocket HOF.

If he's game....Hire Coach Pinkle, surround him with sharp administrators for the day to day stuff and let him go after the donors and fire up Rocket Nation. He certainly has a great national reputation that would change the MO of our lead dog.

Back to reality now...hope the next person is a good one.

(11-10-2021 06:43 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 09:00 PM)rocket 51 Wrote:  I know that there are divides right now but if we get the right AD in a short time we'll be moving ahead to where we all want to be.

Who knows that the new AD won't align with new donors who have not been on board up to now and they change things dramatically.

We know that getting donors on-board will be the job of the new AD. :shrug:

I'm not sure what expertise I'm supposed to see in this "search" committee but hopefully they're not inexperienced in the process and their eyes are open to new needs. And if some "donors" aren't, maybe it is time for those particulars to move on. Others will fill the needs.

Harsh but I believe a true loyal donor that gets butt-hurt their AD isn't hired will settle down and come around to support the University and the old AD will do his best to help that happen.

Too many programs have been left hanging because old-guard wanted to be the person to help until their dying breath. The best way to help a person move on is to make sure they have a helpful, not interfering way path to move-on and be productive. Ultimately the committee has to presume Mr. O'Brien and his loyals want the best for the University and will work faithfully to make that happen.

I wouldn't want to be the guy that tells Phil Knight he has no say how things are done at University of Oregon after donating over $1 billion

(11-09-2021 04:43 PM)Lester Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:20 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  No one is able to tell me who the donors are? Sounds like fake news.

I read The Blade articles. My memory could be wrong, but I don't think any donors were named in the article.

local donors Jim White Jr., Doug Smith, Ron Greller, Tom Douglas were all quoted in the Oct 17th story "UT administration, trustees face rift with athletic community"

OK this is the last time I'll say it. I'll take the job! Save your money UT. Stop the search. I'll start and Chair a Committee. The only people I will listen to are the members of this Message Board.

Quote:Finally, after the board's most recent meeting last week, I asked Postel: How is it possible that O'Brien himself clearly thinks he was fired?

"I don't know," he said. "I don't know what he has decided or how he's changed his view on it."

O'Brien declined to respond, saying, "As indicated earlier, focusing on my last six months and then looking forward to a new chapter on May 1."

(Yes, while O'Brien's silence speaks for itself, I'm well aware how it comes off in a column calling for transparency. He should talk.)

duh'local makes up a controversy, says the person declined to respond then quoted his response that has nothing to do with that person thinking he was fired goes on to say his silence speaks.

Huh?

It's gibberish.

Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

(11-15-2021 09:33 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

I would think so too. In a way, he's a victim of his own ability to recruit so his x's and o's and team preparation seem to lack. If he'd suck at recruiting, we could blame the players. Maybe he'll get it right next year. But the man has some growing to do. Every year MAC has a coach pass him by with less.

(11-15-2021 09:33 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

He will not be allowed to 'finish out his contract', which ends after the 2023 season. He will either be fired after 2022 season, or given a contract extension. Having a 'lame duck coach' coaching in the last season of his contract does not happen.

(11-15-2021 10:16 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 09:33 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

He will not be allowed to 'finish out his contract', which ends after the 2023 season. He will either be fired after 2022 season, or given a contract extension. Having a 'lame duck coach' coaching in the last season of his contract does not happen.

I don't think Candle is going anywhere. Who would hire him except at a lower level? This is the 21-22 season and he will have one more year on his contract. The new AD will evaluate him and may decide to buy him out or give him one more year to make an impression. I doubt there would be an extension, because there would be no basis for it after this season. IMO that includes winning out with a bowl win and finishing 8-5.

(11-15-2021 09:38 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 09:33 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

I would think so too. In a way, he's a victim of his own ability to recruit so his x's and o's and team preparation seem to lack. If he'd suck at recruiting, we could blame the players. Maybe he'll get it right next year. But the man has some growing to do. Every year MAC has a coach pass him by with less.

The recruiting classes are ranked high because of the skill players and the DB rankings. Not so much with the
Front 7 on Defense or OL.

(11-16-2021 04:33 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 09:38 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 09:33 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

I would think so too. In a way, he's a victim of his own ability to recruit so his x's and o's and team preparation seem to lack. If he'd suck at recruiting, we could blame the players. Maybe he'll get it right next year. But the man has some growing to do. Every year MAC has a coach pass him by with less.

The recruiting classes are ranked high because of the skill players and the DB rankings. Not so much with the
Front 7 on Defense or OL.

Recruit Whitmer's QB Hornbeak. Get an OL, an RB and a QB in one package.

(11-16-2021 03:39 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 10:16 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 09:33 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

He will not be allowed to 'finish out his contract', which ends after the 2023 season. He will either be fired after 2022 season, or given a contract extension. Having a 'lame duck coach' coaching in the last season of his contract does not happen.

I don't think Candle is going anywhere. Who would hire him except at a lower level? This is the 21-22 season and he will have one more year on his contract. The new AD will evaluate him and may decide to buy him out or give him one more year to make an impression. I doubt there would be an extension, because there would be no basis for it after this season. IMO that includes winning out with a bowl win and finishing 8-5.

I didn't say anyone else is going to hire him as a HC. I said he would either be fired or have his contract extended.

(11-16-2021 07:52 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 03:39 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 10:16 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 09:33 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Coach Candle I believe will be allow to finish out his contract unless he chooses to go elsewhere before then.

He will not be allowed to 'finish out his contract', which ends after the 2023 season. He will either be fired after 2022 season, or given a contract extension. Having a 'lame duck coach' coaching in the last season of his contract does not happen.

I don't think Candle is going anywhere. Who would hire him except at a lower level? This is the 21-22 season and he will have one more year on his contract. The new AD will evaluate him and may decide to buy him out or give him one more year to make an impression. I doubt there would be an extension, because there would be no basis for it after this season. IMO that includes winning out with a bowl win and finishing 8-5.

I didn't say anyone else is going to hire him as a HC. I said he would either be fired or have his contract extended.

I understand that.