(11-06-2021 03:14 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 02:29 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 11:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Coaches Hotseat

CUSA + (Future AAC SBC)
N.TX - Seth Littrell (#10 coaches hotseat ranking)
Rice - Mike Bloomgren (#23)
LA Tech - Skip Holtz (#31)
So. Miss - Will Hall (#34)
ODU - Ricky Rahne (#45)

P5 of Note
NE - Scott Frost (#1)
UF - Dan Mullen (#2)
Va Tech- Justin Fuente (#8)
TX - Steve Sarkisian (#9)
FSU - Mike Norvell (#18)

Biggest surprise not seeing Stockstill in the top 25 hot seat ranking. Coaches Hot Seat rank his job as safe. Given all the high profile jobs open and those likely to be by season end I will be surprised if one or more of the top CUSA/SBC/AAC coaches doesn't move on for a bigger payday.

Yep. Butch and Pete have expiring contracts. He’s done this year. I’d be interested in Scott Frost or Art Briles (not on list)

I’d stay away from Briles. Too much baggage and I don’t think a university that is trying to establish itself as a respectable global university like FIU would want the kind of reputation his hiring would bring.

Frost would be a great hire but he just seems like a perfect fit for UNT with their potential to be the next hot G5 power. I just have a feeling he ends up there. There should be plenty of great candidates available this year though.

I know Briles is a hard sell but he’s a good coach. I’m not sure what makes you think North Texas is the next G5 power. We should be able to compete with them for a coach. Either way, I agree that there will be a bunch of solid options out there.

(11-06-2021 05:58 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 03:14 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 02:29 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 11:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Coaches Hotseat

CUSA + (Future AAC SBC)
N.TX - Seth Littrell (#10 coaches hotseat ranking)
Rice - Mike Bloomgren (#23)
LA Tech - Skip Holtz (#31)
So. Miss - Will Hall (#34)
ODU - Ricky Rahne (#45)

P5 of Note
NE - Scott Frost (#1)
UF - Dan Mullen (#2)
Va Tech- Justin Fuente (#8)
TX - Steve Sarkisian (#9)
FSU - Mike Norvell (#18)

Biggest surprise not seeing Stockstill in the top 25 hot seat ranking. Coaches Hot Seat rank his job as safe. Given all the high profile jobs open and those likely to be by season end I will be surprised if one or more of the top CUSA/SBC/AAC coaches doesn't move on for a bigger payday.

Yep. Butch and Pete have expiring contracts. He’s done this year. I’d be interested in Scott Frost or Art Briles (not on list)

I’d stay away from Briles. Too much baggage and I don’t think a university that is trying to establish itself as a respectable global university like FIU would want the kind of reputation his hiring would bring.

Frost would be a great hire but he just seems like a perfect fit for UNT with their potential to be the next hot G5 power. I just have a feeling he ends up there. There should be plenty of great candidates available this year though.

I know Briles is a hard sell but he’s a good coach. I’m not sure what makes you think North Texas is the next G5 power. We should be able to compete with them for a coach. Either way, I agree that there will be a bunch of solid options out there.

I agree that Briles is a very good coach but he is a very toxic name in the business right now. If he is given another chance to coach in college I think it would be at a lower level. Kendall Briles may be a more realistic hire in my opinion. I think FIU should strongly consider Randy Shannon as the next head coach. I think he would have the team playing alot more disciplined. FIU has always had talent but I think mistakes on the field have really hurt the team as it has for many teams in Florida. He is also a great recruiter. I think Shannon can perform alot better as the head coach at the CUSA level than he did in the ACC.

UNT has the right leadership in place to excel in athletics, basically the opposite of FIU. They care about investing and doing well in sports and I believe it is only a matter time before UNT makes it into a power conference. Frost could duplicate a lot of his success at UCF at UNT in my opinion.

SC up BIG on UF at the half if that holds probably ensures the end of Mullen's tenure at UF.

Are there any FCS openings other than Jacksonville State?

(11-06-2021 06:52 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 05:58 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 03:14 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 02:29 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 11:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Coaches Hotseat

CUSA + (Future AAC SBC)
N.TX - Seth Littrell (#10 coaches hotseat ranking)
Rice - Mike Bloomgren (#23)
LA Tech - Skip Holtz (#31)
So. Miss - Will Hall (#34)
ODU - Ricky Rahne (#45)

P5 of Note
NE - Scott Frost (#1)
UF - Dan Mullen (#2)
Va Tech- Justin Fuente (#8)
TX - Steve Sarkisian (#9)
FSU - Mike Norvell (#18)

Biggest surprise not seeing Stockstill in the top 25 hot seat ranking. Coaches Hot Seat rank his job as safe. Given all the high profile jobs open and those likely to be by season end I will be surprised if one or more of the top CUSA/SBC/AAC coaches doesn't move on for a bigger payday.

Yep. Butch and Pete have expiring contracts. He’s done this year. I’d be interested in Scott Frost or Art Briles (not on list)

I’d stay away from Briles. Too much baggage and I don’t think a university that is trying to establish itself as a respectable global university like FIU would want the kind of reputation his hiring would bring.

Frost would be a great hire but he just seems like a perfect fit for UNT with their potential to be the next hot G5 power. I just have a feeling he ends up there. There should be plenty of great candidates available this year though.

I know Briles is a hard sell but he’s a good coach. I’m not sure what makes you think North Texas is the next G5 power. We should be able to compete with them for a coach. Either way, I agree that there will be a bunch of solid options out there.

I agree that Briles is a very good coach but he is a very toxic name in the business right now. If he is given another chance to coach in college I think it would be at a lower level. Kendall Briles may be a more realistic hire in my opinion. I think FIU should strongly consider Randy Shannon as the next head coach. I think he would have the team playing alot more disciplined. FIU has always had talent but I think mistakes on the field have really hurt the team as it has for many teams in Florida. He is also a great recruiter. I think Shannon can perform alot better as the head coach at the CUSA level than he did in the ACC.

UNT has the right leadership in place to excel in athletics, basically the opposite of FIU. They care about investing and doing well in sports and I believe it is only a matter time before UNT makes it into a power conference. Frost could duplicate a lot of his success at UCF at UNT in my opinion.

Agree across the board except on Shannon. We can’t afford another bad hire here and betting that he’d do better at a lower level is too high a risk for me. I rather take baggage with the knowledge that we are for sure getting a good coach. We’ve had good recruiters too. Cristobal was good at that but he was an awful X’s and O’s coach and too young at the time to recognize it. Turner was bad at everything. Butch is the same thing good recruiter and bad game day coach.

(11-06-2021 08:24 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Are there any FCS openings other than Jacksonville State?

I dont know any other one at this time.

(11-06-2021 03:14 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 02:29 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 11:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Coaches Hotseat

CUSA + (Future AAC SBC)
N.TX - Seth Littrell (#10 coaches hotseat ranking)
Rice - Mike Bloomgren (#23)
LA Tech - Skip Holtz (#31)
So. Miss - Will Hall (#34)
ODU - Ricky Rahne (#45)

P5 of Note
NE - Scott Frost (#1)
UF - Dan Mullen (#2)
Va Tech- Justin Fuente (#8)
TX - Steve Sarkisian (#9)
FSU - Mike Norvell (#18)

Biggest surprise not seeing Stockstill in the top 25 hot seat ranking. Coaches Hot Seat rank his job as safe. Given all the high profile jobs open and those likely to be by season end I will be surprised if one or more of the top CUSA/SBC/AAC coaches doesn't move on for a bigger payday.

Yep. Butch and Pete have expiring contracts. He’s done this year. I’d be interested in Scott Frost or Art Briles (not on list)

I’d stay away from Briles. Too much baggage and I don’t think a university that is trying to establish itself as a respectable global university like FIU would want the kind of reputation his hiring would bring.

Frost would be a great hire but he just seems like a perfect fit for UNT with their potential to be the next hot G5 power. I just have a feeling he ends up there. There should be plenty of great candidates available this year though.

I think Frost would do well at UNT, but doubt we ever get to interview him. A lot of programs will be looking for coaches this off season. I'm sure a bigger program (low level P5) will snatch him up. But, I'd love to see if he could grow UNT like he did UCF.

Added Jacksonville State to the list.

(11-06-2021 08:51 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 03:14 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 02:29 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 11:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Coaches Hotseat

CUSA + (Future AAC SBC)
N.TX - Seth Littrell (#10 coaches hotseat ranking)
Rice - Mike Bloomgren (#23)
LA Tech - Skip Holtz (#31)
So. Miss - Will Hall (#34)
ODU - Ricky Rahne (#45)

P5 of Note
NE - Scott Frost (#1)
UF - Dan Mullen (#2)
Va Tech- Justin Fuente (#8)
TX - Steve Sarkisian (#9)
FSU - Mike Norvell (#18)

Biggest surprise not seeing Stockstill in the top 25 hot seat ranking. Coaches Hot Seat rank his job as safe. Given all the high profile jobs open and those likely to be by season end I will be surprised if one or more of the top CUSA/SBC/AAC coaches doesn't move on for a bigger payday.

Yep. Butch and Pete have expiring contracts. He’s done this year. I’d be interested in Scott Frost or Art Briles (not on list)

I’d stay away from Briles. Too much baggage and I don’t think a university that is trying to establish itself as a respectable global university like FIU would want the kind of reputation his hiring would bring.

Frost would be a great hire but he just seems like a perfect fit for UNT with their potential to be the next hot G5 power. I just have a feeling he ends up there. There should be plenty of great candidates available this year though.

I think Frost would do well at UNT, but doubt we ever get to interview him. A lot of programs will be looking for coaches this off season. I'm sure a bigger program (low level P5) will snatch him up. But, I'd love to see if he could grow UNT like he did UCF.

You may be right but I just think that other P5 programs will be hesitant after his performance at Nebraska. He has not shown that he can put together a competitive team at the P5 level. They may want him to prove himself some more at the G5 level before giving him another shot. Alot of successful G5 coaches struggle at the P5 level as it’s so much more competitive to win. There are so many examples including Sonny Dykes, Willie Taggart, Justin Fuentes, Mike Norvell, Tom Herman, etc… Just like Dykes with his success at SMU, I’d expect many of the others to have success again when they go back to a G5 program. So there are a lot of options available out there.

Another potentially good option for UNT would be Gary Patterson. I just hope he doesn’t end up as a similar case to Butch Davis where it would have been better for him to retire at this point of his career.

(11-06-2021 08:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  SC up BIG on UF at the half if that holds probably ensures the end of Mullen's tenure at UF.

...that SC loss was the probable back-breaker for the Gus Bus at Auburn last year...

(11-06-2021 08:32 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 06:52 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 05:58 PM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 03:14 PM)XYZ Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 02:29 PM)2009panther Wrote:  Yep. Butch and Pete have expiring contracts. He’s done this year. I’d be interested in Scott Frost or Art Briles (not on list)

I’d stay away from Briles. Too much baggage and I don’t think a university that is trying to establish itself as a respectable global university like FIU would want the kind of reputation his hiring would bring.

Frost would be a great hire but he just seems like a perfect fit for UNT with their potential to be the next hot G5 power. I just have a feeling he ends up there. There should be plenty of great candidates available this year though.

I know Briles is a hard sell but he’s a good coach. I’m not sure what makes you think North Texas is the next G5 power. We should be able to compete with them for a coach. Either way, I agree that there will be a bunch of solid options out there.

I agree that Briles is a very good coach but he is a very toxic name in the business right now. If he is given another chance to coach in college I think it would be at a lower level. Kendall Briles may be a more realistic hire in my opinion. I think FIU should strongly consider Randy Shannon as the next head coach. I think he would have the team playing alot more disciplined. FIU has always had talent but I think mistakes on the field have really hurt the team as it has for many teams in Florida. He is also a great recruiter. I think Shannon can perform alot better as the head coach at the CUSA level than he did in the ACC.

UNT has the right leadership in place to excel in athletics, basically the opposite of FIU. They care about investing and doing well in sports and I believe it is only a matter time before UNT makes it into a power conference. Frost could duplicate a lot of his success at UCF at UNT in my opinion.

Agree across the board except on Shannon. We can’t afford another bad hire here and betting that he’d do better at a lower level is too high a risk for me. I rather take baggage with the knowledge that we are for sure getting a good coach. We’ve had good recruiters too. Cristobal was good at that but he was an awful X’s and O’s coach and too young at the time to recognize it. Turner was bad at everything. Butch is the same thing good recruiter and bad game day coach.

Even Art Briles at this point in his career isn’t sure to be a good coach. Butch Davis assembled arguably the most talented team in college football history when he was at Miami but it’s clear he no longer has that magic. Things change rapidly in college football and the fast paced offenses that were innovative and unique when Briles was coaching is the norm nowadays. Look at Chip Kelly at UCLA. He is no longer able to have anywhere near the success he did at Oregon because his offenses are no longer unique.

I think that there are clear things that good football teams do that bad teams don’t and playing good fundamental football and limiting mistakes are what good, well coached teams always do. As for Shannon, just because he struggled at Miami when he was younger doesn’t mean he won’t be a very good coach at a program like FIU at this point in his career. He has always related well to players and recruited very well while also being very focused on discipline. I just see him as a perfect fit at the G5 level and especially in Florida.

Look at it this way…had Scott Frost been hired directly at Nebraska like Shannon was at UM and struggled the way he is currently, people would view him the same way they now view Shannon and there wouldn’t be a long line of suitors for him at the G5 level like they’re will be with Frost. Shannon can build a power at the G5 level like Frost did. There was a reason he was hired at UM among all the other star alumni from that football program because he has a lot of what it takes to be a good coach and his disciplinary approach really is perfect for getting the most out of the talent available in Florida. I think he really could be a gem for FIU if they are willing to go with him.

UMass fires Walt Bell after losing to Rhode Island by double-digits

Holtz on a hot seat!? LOL! Our lousy admin wouldn't even warm a towel for him to have to sit on. Skippy Holtz is in Ruston until HE chooses not to be.

(11-07-2021 03:47 PM)Tech80 Wrote:  Holtz on a hot seat!? LOL! Our lousy admin wouldn't even warm a towel for him to have to sit on. Skippy Holtz is in Ruston until HE chooses not to be.

Holtz is a lot like Doc good for 7 or 8 wins most years and a bowl game but Conference Championships seldom if at all.

Updated with UMASS

IMO UMASS IS a candidate to drop to FCS or totally non-football. They may have turned down a recent invite to the MAC for all sports. BAD DECISION. They will struggle or worse as an FBS INDY. UCONN has the money to stage some sort of come back. UMASS FB has NOTHING going for it.

(11-06-2021 08:32 PM)2009panther Wrote:  Cristobal was good at that but he was an awful X’s and O’s coach and too young at the time to recognize it. Turner was bad at everything. Butch is the same thing good recruiter and bad game day coach.

Wow. I didn't know FIU still had fans trying to justify that firing.

(11-07-2021 08:49 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 08:32 PM)2009panther Wrote:  Cristobal was good at that but he was an awful X’s and O’s coach and too young at the time to recognize it. Turner was bad at everything. Butch is the same thing good recruiter and bad game day coach.

Wow. I didn't know FIU still had fans trying to justify that firing.

You didn’t see the games. I saw every single game of his tenure. He was a hell of a recruiter, a hard worker, and a guy that was hard not to like. He did struggle with adjustments, coaching discipline/fundamentals, and player development. He should have had more time here but unfortunately Pete Garcia was the AD then too. From what I understood their relationship soured and he got canned. I wish it’d been Garcia instead.

Cristobal though has benefited from going straight from us to Alabama and then Oregon. It’s hard not look good when you’re afforded all that money and have the top recruits killing themselves to attend your school. It’s not like he left us and developed some lowly G5 into a juggernaut.

(11-08-2021 01:42 AM)2009panther Wrote:  

(11-07-2021 08:49 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 08:32 PM)2009panther Wrote:  Cristobal was good at that but he was an awful X’s and O’s coach and too young at the time to recognize it. Turner was bad at everything. Butch is the same thing good recruiter and bad game day coach.

Wow. I didn't know FIU still had fans trying to justify that firing.

You didn’t see the games. I saw every single game of his tenure. He was a hell of a recruiter, a hard worker, and a guy that was hard not to like. He did struggle with adjustments, coaching discipline/fundamentals, and player development. He should have had more time here but unfortunately Pete Garcia was the AD then too. From what I understood their relationship soured and he got canned. I wish it’d been Garcia instead.

Cristobal though has benefited from going straight from us to Alabama and then Oregon. It’s hard not look good when you’re afforded all that money and have the top recruits killing themselves to attend your school. It’s not like he left us and developed some lowly G5 into a juggernaut.

In FIUs short football history, and it is short (Im 29 years older than FIU Football) they have had exactly 4 winning seasons in 2010, 2011, 2017 and 2018. Mario Cristobal had 2 and Butch Davis had 2. FIU fired one and is letting the contract expire on the other. Your AD may not be that good but the decision making over all at FIU has been questionable at best.

(11-06-2021 12:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-06-2021 11:56 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  Will Hall is not on the hot seat at all right now considering the circumstances the Southern Miss team has encountered this season.

I agree with you he's not on the hot seat but for a totally different reason.....money. BTW what circumstances are you talking about? Other than being one of, if not the worse offensives in FBS. Surely you're not blaming QB injuries on this season? S. Miss looked just as awful under any qb that took the field

Money is the same reason Middle's coach is not getting fired, unless they stay in CUSA and use that money to get rid of him. Which would probably be the best move for them.

It's not money, it's his first year and he's playing with a majority of talent he didn't recruit.

Last season the coach responsible for the talent level quit after the first game. We had 3 different coaches last season. Hall had a limited number of schollys to use and is playing with talent that Hop would've had a tough time winning with. Compare that to 2012. The previous season we had went 12-2, had lots of talent left over, but the coaching was horrendous and lost games for us, we hung with Nebraska until halftime when the coaches said we can't win.

Hall has a year or two to right it. If he can't, he gone.