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(10-28-2021 07:12 PM)alum93 Wrote:  
(10-28-2021 06:47 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  NF is good. We might have a new star on our hands.

Hope he never gets hurt, we don't seem to have much else, especially from the bigs

Monty Scott looks just as good off the dribble. Impressed with both. Golson has had some nice moments too.
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(10-28-2021 07:22 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(10-28-2021 07:12 PM)alum93 Wrote:  
(10-28-2021 06:47 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  NF is good. We might have a new star on our hands.

Hope he never gets hurt, we don't seem to have much else, especially from the bigs

Monty Scott looks just as good off the dribble. Impressed with both. Golson has had some nice moments too.
Noah Farrakhan looks special! This's a huge comparison, but has Ray Lee ability, with Karrington Ward hops! Has a really good chance to start as A freshman, and compete for MAC freshman of the year! Golson was also impressive! Biggest eye opener was inside.........
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Oakland Basketball Scrimmage October 28
This team does a good job of kicking the ball out to an open shooter. We've not seen that in years. Also really like the defensive effort.
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I'm an EMU football fan and an OU basketball fan. Go figure.

I will say this unrelated to the game itself......EMU's basketball jerseys have to go. They dont look good. They look like a JV team got the Varsity hand me downs and they are too big.

Other than that. Looks like EMU has a good team.
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Nice win! It was a game of ebbs and flows, but we finished strong. Monty Scott did well to close it out, and he was impressive defensively at the end. We got a player there. I also liked what I saw from Golson. But Farrakhan was the story for most of the game. He’s so slithery. Great use of the floater too.

Excited for the games to count.
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RE: Oakland Basketball Scrimmage October 28
Had we lost, I would have wrote it off as just a meaningless scrimmage. But since we won, I wish it counted as a road win against a quality mid-major. Oh well.

I will say that the announcers paraphrased Kampe as having said he intended to treat exhibition/scrimmage against EMU as a real game while experimenting with the other exhibition/scrimmage they play. So this doesn’t count, but was not meaningless either. (Also, Kampe seems to have been coaching Oakland FOREVER.)
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I'll watch the whole game tomorrow (I was watching both the Wizards and this game at the same time).

That said, Miggy seems spot on as to where the talent is. It is some high impact newcomers. W/out Farrakhan, Scott, and Golson not a whole lot to see.

The cupboard Heath inherited was pretty bare.
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(10-28-2021 09:07 PM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll watch the whole game tomorrow (I was watching both the Wizards and this game at the same time).

That said, Miggy seems spot on as to where the talent is. It is some high impact newcomers. W/out Farrakhan, Scott, and Golson not a whole lot to see.

The cupboard Heath inherited was pretty bare.

Thanks. Nije out with ankle sprain. Glad injury not worse than that. If he played, confident that EMU would have won by 10 plus points. Nice surprise and quite impressive that in first outing EMU shot 50 percent on all fga’s, and a whopping 66 percent on two’s.

Do hope to see Rice plays more, and hopefully Randle will play in next scrimmage.
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RE: Oakland Basketball Scrimmage October 28
Wow, looking at the box score, Steve/Monty seem very correct: Farrakhan 27 points, MScott 16 points, and Golson 10 points. McBride had 6 but was only 1-7 shooting (probably just a bad game, still expecting much from him). The team collectively shooting 4-19 on 3s is SO DISAPPOINTING. I feel like we have been waiting so long for a team with range. (Monty, your boys were 28.6% on 3s combined. You better have a word with them!!)

On an interesting note, EMU went 12 deep (and Njie didn’t even play) while Oakland only played 9. Makes the win seem even better.

Well, I am off to watch the game finally.
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RE: Oakland Basketball Scrimmage October 28
Mo Njie did not play due to ankle sprain. Hope he can play in next week’s scrimmage, or in opening game against Indiana.
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RE: Oakland Basketball Scrimmage October 28
Its great to win a scrimmage rather than lose one. I said this was a good matchup between the teams and it was. Farrakan put on a great show. It was watching 3 on 5 with Farrakan Scott and Golson Jr. They seem to be the core. Oakland was missing two starters. Also no one could foul out. Oakland piled up the fouls the first half and we the second. It was great not to see players yanked in and out and Heath seems far more calm on the sidelines than Murphy. Heath's style of play is also entertaining.

Off to the real games starting November 9.
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RE: Oakland Basketball Scrimmage October 28
Since I mentioned the Wizards earlier. They were 0 - 4 with a new coach (Wes Unseld Jr.) in the pre-season and now 4 - 1 in regular season.

I don't pay attention to winners and losers but look to glean info on specific players. It is impossible to know which teams and players are giving it their best or those simply getting read for the regular season.

Newcomers, esp. rookies, play harder than vets. Would expect that in college hoops. Wouldn't expect the OU veterans to got out busting butt. They are veterans playing for a coach who has been there forever.

EMU had a lot more to prove last night than OU.
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I thought it was pretty clear that both teams were treating it like an actual game, especially with Oakland only playing 9 guys. Having a lot more to prove is arguable, since you can’t use the scrimmage logic for one team and not the other. I think that stuff goes out the window once the game starts.

Anyway, it was nice to get a glimpse of this team against a fellow mid major, since the first actual game will probably be a rough one. Excited for this season. It looks like we may have a fun team.
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After watching the game last night, Farrakhan is absolutely amazing. There were 3 Oakland players defending him and he’d find a way around them without ever a glimpse of losing control then drops the ball in the net as smooth as can be. I could not tell for sure, but he did not seem as impressive defensively. But all in all, this kid belongs in a higher conference.

Monty Scott looks to be similarly impressive, but at times looks a little less in control than his brother. So maybe fits as a MAC high caliber player.

We are very lucky to have these guys. Scott graduates after this year, and I would expect Farrakhan to transfer up next year. But I am going to really enjoy watching these guys play this year.
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Nice to watching EmU play so well in it’s first outing against competition. It was an exciting and well-played exhibition game.

After the game, one reporter told Oakland’s HC that a group of reporters had said they thought they were watching a big-time game, not an exhibition game. So true. The reporter was impressed with both teams as he went on to say he expected both teams to play in the NCAA Tournament.

Can see why he was so impressed with EMU as Noah Farrakhan put on quite a show helping EMU shoot a whooping 64-percent on two point shots. His compliment is meaningful given it was EMU’s first game with a reconstituted team.

As Noah Farrakhan playing 30-minutes, scored 27-points on 13-19 fga’s, including shooting 80 percent (12-25) on two’s, had 7-rebounds, 6-assists, 2-steals, and committed but one turnover. He was able to create separation inside to get off a clean shots even though surrounded by much taller players. His separation was so good, he didn’t even go to the foul-line.

His defense was excellent as he limited Oakland’s very good PG Moore to scoring but 14-points, and shooting only 5-19 on fga’s, and only 2-8 on three’s.

One can see why Noah in the 10th grade of HS had a 5-star rating, and was ranked by ESPN in the top 50 players in his class, and one of two of the nation’s top PG’s. The other PG was Jeremy Roach who now plays for Duke.

Noah will help EMU attract good recruits as he’s well known by both HS and college players alike. who signed to play with ECU where he played last season told reporters that Noah was a factor for them signing with ECU.

Impossible to understand why Noah while at East Carolina only played 112 minutes in 12 games of a covid-shortened season.

Was very impressed by EMU not committing excessive turnovers nor fouls in their first outing. Did think the refs were homers as some phantom fouls were called on EMU players. But am concerned that EMU committed too many shooting fouls.

Will provide other observations later today.
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(10-29-2021 09:11 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  After watching the game last night, Farrakhan is absolutely amazing. There were 3 Oakland players defending him and he’d find a way around them without ever a glimpse of losing control then drops the ball in the net as smooth as can be. I could not tell for sure, but he did not seem as impressive defensively. But all in all, this kid belongs in a higher conference.

Monty Scott looks to be similarly impressive, but at times looks a little less in control than his brother. So maybe fits as a MAC high caliber player.

We are very lucky to have these guys. Scott graduates after this year, and I would expect Farrakhan to transfer up next year. But I am going to really enjoy watching these guys play this year.

Farrakhan has used his one "freebie" transfer. Would need to sit a year if he transfers again.
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(10-28-2021 09:51 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Wow, looking at the box score, Steve/Monty seem very correct: Farrakhan 27 points, MScott 16 points, and Golson 10 points. McBride had 6 but was only 1-7 shooting (probably just a bad game, still expecting much from him). The team collectively shooting 4-19 on 3s is SO DISAPPOINTING. I feel like we have been waiting so long for a team with range. (Monty, your boys were 28.6% on 3s combined. You better have a word with them!!)

On an interesting note, EMU went 12 deep (and Njie didn’t even play) while Oakland only played 9. Makes the win seem even better.

Well, I am off to watch the game finally.

We should celebrate that EMU shot 62.5 percent on two’s largely due to Farrakhan shooting 80 percent (12-15) on two’s and Scott shooting 66 percent (4-6) on two’s, and reserves Binelli, Ballard and Yusef, shooting 75 percent ( 3-4) on two’s.

As such, no need to worry about EMU shooting three’s poorly
At this point.

When Njie returns, he should also help keep EMU’s 2-point shooting percentage up, and told he can hit three’s.

And as you say, we do expect McBride to shoot far better than 1-5 on three’s in future games. Golson also has the it potential as a three point shooter. Want to see him take far more than the 7 fga’s he took. Binelli also may contribute making three’s when he decides to shoot them.

I would also point out out that Monty Scott made a jumper that the ref said his foot was on the line (didn’t look like it) and also had a three point play off a two-point jump shot. Like three points on one possession no matter how it happens.

EMU played small ball a good bit and opponents shot 4).8 percent on two’s and 31 percent on three’s. Far better than last season when opponents shot (6 percent on two’s and 37 percent on three’s.

I’m more concerned about EMU allowing Oakland to make 8-3’s and score 24 points on 3’s. Like to see EMU limit opponents to score no more than 5 three’s or 15 ppg, and not allow one player to shoot 3-4 on three’s occurred.

Glad Oakland shot but 32 percent on three’s, and not far higher.
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(10-29-2021 10:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(10-29-2021 09:11 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  After watching the game last night, Farrakhan is absolutely amazing. There were 3 Oakland players defending him and he’d find a way around them without ever a glimpse of losing control then drops the ball in the net as smooth as can be. I could not tell for sure, but he did not seem as impressive defensively. But all in all, this kid belongs in a higher conference.

Monty Scott looks to be similarly impressive, but at times looks a little less in control than his brother. So maybe fits as a MAC high caliber player.

We are very lucky to have these guys. Scott graduates after this year, and I would expect Farrakhan to transfer up next year. But I am going to really enjoy watching these guys play this year.

Farrakhan has used his one "freebie" transfer. Would need to sit a year if he transfers again.

Farrakhan loves EMU and I don’t see him going anywhere else next season. His defense was quite good given how poorly his opponent shot, and his garnering two steals. He came to EMU in part because HC Heath is one of the few HC’s in college ball who has successfully coached in the pro’s, and has installed a pro offense and defense at EMU. As such, there’s no reason to go anywhere else.

Scott is a high-major player. He’s been described as one of those players who can get to and shoot we’ll from anywhere on the court.

Has scored well and shot a very high percentage (over 50 percent) against high majors like Butler, Florida State, Texas Tech, UConn, and Oregon State that made it to the Elite Eight of NCAA tournament last season. He was highest scorer in the game played against OSU. He was the only player all season to score 22-points in a half against Butler, and he tied with another player in scoring 25 points against UConn. That’s why both Maryland and Virginia Tech wanted him when he transferred to Temple.

Scott rarely has had his dribble stolen. But agree that Farrakhan has outstanding handles, but he still needs to work on getting his dribble lower.

In the Oakland game, Scott subbed in off the bench with EMU down 7-points. When he played EMU outscored Oakland by 14 points which was EMU’s best positive box score rating. Noah was next closest player who played substantial minutes l, and he had a positive 6 rating. The reason it was not far higher is because he played with both Spottsville and McBride who both shot poorly which drove down Noah’s rating.

Scott should be in the starting line-up as he’s one of EMU’s best players. His starting should help prevent EMU from trailing at the beginning of games.
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(10-29-2021 09:11 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  After watching the game last night, Farrakhan is absolutely amazing. There were 3 Oakland players defending him and he’d find a way around them without ever a glimpse of losing control then drops the ball in the net as smooth as can be. I could not tell for sure, but he did not seem as impressive defensively. But all in all, this kid belongs in a higher conference.

Monty Scott looks to be similarly impressive, but at times looks a little less in control than his brother. So maybe fits as a MAC high caliber player.

We are very lucky to have these guys. Scott graduates after this year, and I would expect Farrakhan to transfer up next year. But I am going to really enjoy watching these guys play this year.

Actually Ramy, I believe EMU/Coach Heath will be great for Noah and vice versa. He can get to the League thru EMU and Heath’s system may give him the freedom to blossom. As coach Heath said, EMU is a sleeping giant. Many of you laughed at his comments. I don’t think Coach Heath meant that EMU would be vying for a national championship but what he did mean to convey, his exciting brand of basketball will be attractive for talented players that will help him restore EMU as a contender for a MAC championship, an NCAA invite, and possibly to a deep run in the tournament once he has time to build his brand of basketball at EMU.


So Ramy, why would Noah transfer out? Don’t you believe EMU deserves a great program? Ramy don’t prescribe to the naysayers that good things can’t happen for EMU. They can and I believe in time Coach Heath will restore our once proud basketball tradition. Remember when the SAPC was built and Creighton got up to the podium to recognize those who contributed to its construction? He said “ Yes we Can at EMU “ multiple times.


As Miggy pointed out, Noah has potential. As I confirmed at the intrasquad scrimmage, he was the game MVP. Let’s plan on Noah enjoying playing in Heath’s system and also attracting big time talent next season because great players want to play with great players.

We just might contend for the MAC next season. Good news for us, the MAC has poor coaches (ie Murphy)
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(10-29-2021 01:15 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(10-29-2021 10:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(10-29-2021 09:11 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  After watching the game last night, Farrakhan is absolutely amazing. There were 3 Oakland players defending him and he’d find a way around them without ever a glimpse of losing control then drops the ball in the net as smooth as can be. I could not tell for sure, but he did not seem as impressive defensively. But all in all, this kid belongs in a higher conference.

Monty Scott looks to be similarly impressive, but at times looks a little less in control than his brother. So maybe fits as a MAC high caliber player.

We are very lucky to have these guys. Scott graduates after this year, and I would expect Farrakhan to transfer up next year. But I am going to really enjoy watching these guys play this year.

Farrakhan has used his one "freebie" transfer. Would need to sit a year if he transfers again.

Farrakhan loves EMU, and I don’t see him going anywhere else next season. Though his defense was quite good given how poorly his opponent shot, and his garnering two steals. He came to EMU as it has HC Heath is one of the few HC’s in college ball who has successfully coached in the pro’s, and has installed a pro offense and defense at EMU. As such, there’s No reason to go anywhere else.

Scott is a high major player.

Has been described as one of those players who can get to and shoot we’ll from anywhere on the court.

Has scored well and shot a very high percentage (over 50 percent) against high majors like Butler, Florida State, Texas Tech, UConn, and Oregon State that made it to the Elite Eight of NCAA tournament last season. He was highest scorer in the game played against OSU. He was the only player all season to score 22-points in a half against Butler, and he tied with another player in scoring 25 points against UConn. That’s why both Maryland and Virginia Tech wanted him when he transferred to Temple.

Scott rarely has had his dribble stolen. But agree that Farrakhan has outstanding handles, but he still needs to work on getting his dribble lower.

In the Oakland game, Scott subbed in off the bench with EMU down 7-points. When he played EMU outscored their opponents by 14 points which was EMU’s best positive box score rating. The next closest player was Farrakhan who had a positive 6 plus rating. The reason it was not far higher is because he played with both Spottsville and McBride who both shot poorly, and drove down Farrakhan’s rating.

Does seem going forward that Scott has to be in the starting line-up. Will hopefully help prevent EMU from finding itself trailing at the beginning of games.

Thanks for your post Miggy! Sometimes our postors can’t accept good things happening at EMU!!! Coach Heath should get us to contention next season!
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