When MT and FAU joined the league...

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/middle-te...-to-july-1

Interestingly when you look at the teams with the most conference wins in football since '13 before the season started it looks like this below. UAB a little difficult because of the two seasons they didn't play. Regardless, even acknowledging the direction things are moving for the Blazers, look at the top performers in terms of conference wins. Out of a 14-team league you see some interesting names (i.e. those left behind: MT, LT, wkcc) and Western's numbers are missing a full season because they joined a year later.

1. Marshall 42
2. La Tech 41
3. Middle Tenn 38
4. wkcc 37
5. FAU 33
T6 UNT 30
T6. UTSA 30

UAB 28

Sorry, accidentally left off FAU when I first posted this.

(10-24-2021 05:09 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Sorry, accidentally left off FAU when I first posted this.

A look at the "Bubba" Cup All-Sports Trophy winners. Check out 2001-2014. MT kicked arse in the Belt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Su...ns#Winners

Either MTSU and WKU did something really awful when the schools departed in 2013 and 2014, or there are some really petty ADs and Presidents that would rather hold a grudge than get the highest performing programs for their conference.

In 2013 and 2014, ANY of the SBC teams would have taken an invite to the C-USA. UL, ULM, Troy, Ark State, USA, etc... any one of them.

(10-24-2021 07:18 PM)galojah Wrote:  Either MTSU and WKU did something really awful when the schools departed in 2013 and 2014, or there are some really petty ADs and Presidents that would rather hold a grudge than get the highest performing programs for their conference.

In 2013 and 2014, ANY of the SBC teams would have taken an invite to the C-USA. UL, ULM, Troy, Ark State, USA, etc... any one of them.

It really had nothing to do with pettiness from the old western SBC schools. It was about getting teams that the new Eastern SBC schools wanted.

(10-24-2021 07:42 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:18 PM)galojah Wrote:  Either MTSU and WKU did something really awful when the schools departed in 2013 and 2014, or there are some really petty ADs and Presidents that would rather hold a grudge than get the highest performing programs for their conference.

In 2013 and 2014, ANY of the SBC teams would have taken an invite to the C-USA. UL, ULM, Troy, Ark State, USA, etc... any one of them.

It really had nothing to do with pettiness from the old western SBC schools. It was about getting teams that the new Eastern SBC schools wanted.

Few of us know what really has been said, but my understanding is Marshall was advocating for WKU, that the issue for WKU was 'no' votes from the west.

(10-24-2021 07:47 PM)galojah Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:42 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:18 PM)galojah Wrote:  Either MTSU and WKU did something really awful when the schools departed in 2013 and 2014, or there are some really petty ADs and Presidents that would rather hold a grudge than get the highest performing programs for their conference.

In 2013 and 2014, ANY of the SBC teams would have taken an invite to the C-USA. UL, ULM, Troy, Ark State, USA, etc... any one of them.

It really had nothing to do with pettiness from the old western SBC schools. It was about getting teams that the new Eastern SBC schools wanted.

Few of us know what really has been said, but my understanding is Marshall was advocating for WKU, that the issue for WKU was 'no' votes from the west.

That is what I understand as well.

I absolutely hate it for Western, La Tech and MTSU.

Marshall fans know the feeling, we got left behind from all the CUSA 2.0 schools, then we learned to love our CUSA 3.0 brethren. I know it hurts now, but you might look back on this 5 years from now and think, yeah it worked out.

That is what I hope at least. Or the MAC will throw y'all a bone.

I personally feel a connection to Western, the more I got to learn about you, and see Bowling Green, the more I realized how similar we are..

So I'm equally hurt for y'all. You've done everything you could on the field, hell, I put many stats on this board to show that you deserve better, especially more so then teams like Charlotte or North Texas.

(10-24-2021 10:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  When MT and FAU joined the league...

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/middle-te...-to-july-1

Interestingly when you look at the teams with the most conference wins in football since '13 before the season started it looks like this below. UAB a little difficult because of the two seasons they didn't play. Regardless, even acknowledging the direction things are moving for the Blazers, look at the top performers in terms of conference wins. Out of a 14-team league you see some interesting names (i.e. those left behind: MT, LT, wkcc) and Western's numbers are missing a full season because they joined a year later.

1. Marshall 42
2. La Tech 41
3. Middle Tenn 38
4. wkcc 37
5. FAU 33
T6 UNT 30
T6. UTSA 30

UAB 28

Compare Basketball wins if you have time. I guarantee WKU and Tech are at the top. And UTSA, FAU are close to the bottom.

It had zero to do with performance and facilities look at FAU and UTSA.

It was all marketz marketz marketz. Even though Tech and WKU both have much better TV numbers than the 6 invited especially FAU and UTSA.

It was purely based on population and that’s it.

Budgets don’t matter as much in G5 because those schools are barely treading water servicing debt. I’ve know common folk retire like kings; and doctors and lawyers go bankrupt.

If FAU and UTSA are swimming in so much money why do they play in middle school gyms? Ask yourself that question

Tech has the least debt among CUSA and the highest donor contributions besides (Rice)

Basketball

Just went back to '14-15. Didn't do everyone just cause there are some not even worth checking.

1. ODU 85
2. La Tech 82
3. UAB 79
4. wkcc 78
5. MT 75 (even as bad as we've been with McDevitt)


Marshall 71
UTEP 60
UTSA 57
UNT 56
Charlotte 45
FAU 42

USM was 42 as well. Thanks, Donnie Tyndall.

Overall FB winning percentage since 2014 (includes this year)

Marshall 65.3
UAB 64.3
La Tech 60.8
Wk KY 58.2
MTSU 49.5

Its all about markets, population, location.

Thats why Boise will never be in the BIG XII.

(10-24-2021 07:47 PM)galojah Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:42 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:18 PM)galojah Wrote:  Either MTSU and WKU did something really awful when the schools departed in 2013 and 2014, or there are some really petty ADs and Presidents that would rather hold a grudge than get the highest performing programs for their conference.

In 2013 and 2014, ANY of the SBC teams would have taken an invite to the C-USA. UL, ULM, Troy, Ark State, USA, etc... any one of them.

It really had nothing to do with pettiness from the old western SBC schools. It was about getting teams that the new Eastern SBC schools wanted.

Few of us know what really has been said, but my understanding is Marshall was advocating for WKU, that the issue for WKU was 'no' votes from the west.

Fair enough. I can’t really say my secondhand rumors are more credible than your secondhand rumors.

My best memories of UL basketball were those late 90’s battles we had against y’all in the SBC. I think most Cajuns fans would have loved to rekindle that conference rivalry. I hope y’all are able to find a good home somewhere.

(10-24-2021 09:20 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:47 PM)galojah Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:42 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:18 PM)galojah Wrote:  Either MTSU and WKU did something really awful when the schools departed in 2013 and 2014, or there are some really petty ADs and Presidents that would rather hold a grudge than get the highest performing programs for their conference.

In 2013 and 2014, ANY of the SBC teams would have taken an invite to the C-USA. UL, ULM, Troy, Ark State, USA, etc... any one of them.

It really had nothing to do with pettiness from the old western SBC schools. It was about getting teams that the new Eastern SBC schools wanted.

Few of us know what really has been said, but my understanding is Marshall was advocating for WKU, that the issue for WKU was 'no' votes from the west.

Fair enough. I can’t really say my secondhand rumors are more credible than your secondhand rumors.

My best memories of UL basketball were those late 90’s battles we had against y’all in the SBC. I think most Cajuns fans would have loved to rekindle that conference rivalry. I hope y’all are able to find a good home somewhere.

I'm sure Michael Southall still has a year of eligibility left.

(10-24-2021 09:52 PM)galojah Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 09:20 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:47 PM)galojah Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:42 PM)GEAUX UL Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:18 PM)galojah Wrote:  Either MTSU and WKU did something really awful when the schools departed in 2013 and 2014, or there are some really petty ADs and Presidents that would rather hold a grudge than get the highest performing programs for their conference.

In 2013 and 2014, ANY of the SBC teams would have taken an invite to the C-USA. UL, ULM, Troy, Ark State, USA, etc... any one of them.

It really had nothing to do with pettiness from the old western SBC schools. It was about getting teams that the new Eastern SBC schools wanted.

Few of us know what really has been said, but my understanding is Marshall was advocating for WKU, that the issue for WKU was 'no' votes from the west.

Fair enough. I can’t really say my secondhand rumors are more credible than your secondhand rumors.

My best memories of UL basketball were those late 90’s battles we had against y’all in the SBC. I think most Cajuns fans would have loved to rekindle that conference rivalry. I hope y’all are able to find a good home somewhere.

I'm sure Michael Southall still has a year of eligibility left.

(10-24-2021 09:18 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  Overall FB winning percentage since 2014 (includes this year)

Marshall 65.3
UAB 64.3
La Tech 60.8
Wk KY 58.2
MTSU 49.5

Its all about markets, population, location.

Thats why Boise will never be in the BIG XII.

Totally agree.

(10-24-2021 06:01 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 05:09 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Sorry, accidentally left off FAU when I first posted this.

A look at the "Bubba" Cup All-Sports Trophy winners. Check out 2001-2014. MT kicked arse in the Belt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Su...ns#Winners

Interesting that someone is updating the Bubas cup on that page, but nobody has updated the sport championships in 4+ years

Some think (and I'm starting to agree) that our so-called leaders are holding us back intentionally, so that TSU in Nashville can consolidate and take over our main campus.

That would certainly be what ut-obknoxiousville would want, especially keeping our current president in power for over 20 years with his shenanigans of the early 2000's. Everyone else would have been fired immediately.

https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/the-...3f757.html

From 2004:

As we look at the picture, McPhee is basically another blemish in the mediocrity of it all. To keep him around is to suffer fools happily. Not getting rid of him as much as acknowledges that higher education here is the provenance of a sexual predator who lacks the mental and moral makeup to lead as he should. Like John Shumaker and Wade Gilley, no image will really ever attach to McPhee's name other than that of a raving bozo who was overcome by middle-aged stupidity.

If anyone wants to improve higher education here, they will have to improve the caliber of its leaders. Until someone takes care of Sidney McPhee, higher education in this state will continue to enjoy the reputation it so richly deserves. It will remain, basically, a sad joke.

(10-24-2021 08:39 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Basketball

Just went back to '14-15. Didn't do everyone just cause there are some not even worth checking.

1. ODU 85
2. La Tech 82
3. UAB 79
4. wkcc 78
5. MT 75 (even as bad as we've been with McDevitt)


Marshall 71
UTEP 60
UTSA 57
UNT 56
Charlotte 45
FAU 42

Rice actually has 51, better than you would expect.