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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(10-31-2021 08:43 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Here (in bold) are the teams I think it would be most advantageous for us to have win this week. This is from the perspective of having the least amount of bowl eligible MAC teams in case we end up 6-6, or the most possible 6-6 teams if we end up 7-5. Hopefully we end up 9-3 and none of this matters!

Tuesday's games

Ball State at Akron

Miami at Ohio

Wednesday's games

CMU at WMU

NIU at Kent State

If we are hoping to sneak in the backdoor to the MAC Championship game, we need a complete meltdown at NIU and one more Ball State loss, with the Eagles running the table to go 9-3. Unfortunately, I don't see NIU dropping three of their last four, although Ball State losing one more is not so much out of the question.
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(10-25-2021 04:56 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 11:07 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I would go with 7 wins. That means a .500 record in conference. We will still have folks on this board ready with pitchforks and torches marching to Cdc house. Of course those same folks will forget we went 2 and 4 last year. Actually if we have a hot November we can get a better bowl. CMU WMU and Toledo are all beatable team in terms of matchups.

I hope we win out, but of the remaining teams we play, if we ranked the teams 1-5 on rushing the ball and stopping the run, where would EMU rank amongst them?

Rushing - I’m guessing:

1) CMU
2) WMU
3) Toledo
4) EMU
5) Ohio

And rank the teams at stopping the run, I’m guessing:

1) Toledo
2) CMU
3) WMU
4) Ohio
5) EMU

I predict 3-5 MAC record and 6-6 overall.

I love Creighton and will not have a pitchfork; however, I’ll be vocal about recruiting strategies, coordinator and scheme changes.

????????????

These are the stats from the league office and only count FBS opponent games.

https://getsomemaction.com/stats.aspx?pa...&year=2021

I don't see a lot of be vocal or complain about. Two TDs shy of being perfect, other than the WI game.

Bryant is the most efficient MAC QB. Julian is the most efficient punter.

Steve, I don’t think you understand the importance of being able to run the ball on offense so you have TOP and keep the defense off the field. We are almost dead last rushing the ball. Did you watch MSU beat UofM? They did it by rushing the ball…..


https://getsomemaction.com/stats.aspx?pa...&year=2021
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(10-31-2021 08:58 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(10-31-2021 08:43 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Here (in bold) are the teams I think it would be most advantageous for us to have win this week. This is from the perspective of having the least amount of bowl eligible MAC teams in case we end up 6-6, or the most possible 6-6 teams if we end up 7-5. Hopefully we end up 9-3 and none of this matters!

Tuesday's games

Ball State at Akron

Miami at Ohio

Wednesday's games

CMU at WMU

NIU at Kent State

If we are hoping to sneak in the backdoor to the MAC Championship game, we need a complete meltdown at NIU and one more Ball State loss, with the Eagles running the table to go 9-3. Unfortunately, I don't see NIU dropping three of their last four, although Ball State losing one more is not so much out of the question.

Most of NIUs wins are by one score - they arent exactly dominant. Im not holding my breath though.

Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has us in the Camelia Bowl against UAB
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(10-26-2021 12:10 PM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 06:40 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 11:07 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I would go with 7 wins. That means a .500 record in conference. We will still have folks on this board ready with pitchforks and torches marching to Cdc house. Of course those same folks will forget we went 2 and 4 last year. Actually if we have a hot November we can get a better bowl. CMU WMU and Toledo are all beatable team in terms of matchups.

I hope we win out, but of the remaining teams we play, if we ranked the teams 1-5 on rushing the ball and stopping the run, where would EMU rank amongst them?

Rushing - I’m guessing:

1) CMU
2) WMU
3) Toledo
4) EMU
5) Ohio

And rank the teams at stopping the run, I’m guessing:

1) Toledo
2) CMU
3) WMU
4) Ohio
5) EMU

I predict 3-5 MAC record and 6-6 overall.

I love Creighton and will not have a pitchfork; however, I’ll be vocal about recruiting strategies, coordinator and scheme changes.

My position exactly! Chris Creighton is my dream coach, but a 3-5 MAC record will indicate stagnation, something that cannot be ignored considering his contract extension. As the AD I would want to know what he is going to change.

Assumptions and projections are always dangerous. ILet's play the remaining 4 games and then discuss. Not that it really matters. CC will be our coach next year unless he finishes at 9-3 and then he may be gone. Honestly the only place with more waffling about Creighton than this board is a Waffle House.

Honestly I don't see that much "waffling" regarding Creighton. He runs a squeaky clean program, actively markets it and has truly elevated the program. He is my dream coach, I salute Heather for hiring him.

Having stated that, EMU just pushed a MBB coach who also elevated his program, out the door. While his program discipline and marketing efforts were far inferior to Creighton's, our AD suggested that if "you haven't won anything in ten years, maybe you need to do something else". He then gave the football coach a four year contract extension after EIGHT years of not winning anything.

Wetherbee also declared in his Heath hiring press conference that EMU players were tired of playing the outdated zone defense, insinuating that "we were doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result", the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein. I must admit that I totally agreed with Wetherbee.

I, however, must be fair when also critiquing the football team's performance. The program's game approach and strategy has differed little in the past six seasons as have the results. We are doing what we have been and getting the same outcomes, not a surprise. Questioning our football coach's direction and resistance to change is an issue of fairness based on established past practices with respect to Rob Murphy. It's not waffling, just an "old white guy" trying to be equitable.

Oh and bye the way, I mailed a $10K donation to Dan McLean today at EMU athletics. I doubt that would have happened if Chris Creighton were NOT our football coach. I DO love the guy!
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(11-01-2021 05:20 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-26-2021 12:10 PM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 06:40 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 11:07 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I would go with 7 wins. That means a .500 record in conference. We will still have folks on this board ready with pitchforks and torches marching to Cdc house. Of course those same folks will forget we went 2 and 4 last year. Actually if we have a hot November we can get a better bowl. CMU WMU and Toledo are all beatable team in terms of matchups.

I hope we win out, but of the remaining teams we play, if we ranked the teams 1-5 on rushing the ball and stopping the run, where would EMU rank amongst them?

Rushing - I’m guessing:

1) CMU
2) WMU
3) Toledo
4) EMU
5) Ohio

And rank the teams at stopping the run, I’m guessing:

1) Toledo
2) CMU
3) WMU
4) Ohio
5) EMU

I predict 3-5 MAC record and 6-6 overall.

I love Creighton and will not have a pitchfork; however, I’ll be vocal about recruiting strategies, coordinator and scheme changes.

My position exactly! Chris Creighton is my dream coach, but a 3-5 MAC record will indicate stagnation, something that cannot be ignored considering his contract extension. As the AD I would want to know what he is going to change.

Assumptions and projections are always dangerous. ILet's play the remaining 4 games and then discuss. Not that it really matters. CC will be our coach next year unless he finishes at 9-3 and then he may be gone. Honestly the only place with more waffling about Creighton than this board is a Waffle House.

Honestly I don't see that much "waffling" regarding Creighton. He runs a squeaky clean program, actively markets it and has truly elevated the program. He is my dream coach, I salute Heather for hiring him.

Having stated that, EMU just pushed a MBB coach who also elevated his program, out the door. While his program discipline and marketing efforts were far inferior to Creighton's, our AD suggested that if "you haven't won anything in ten years, maybe you need to do something else". He then gave the football coach a four year contract extension after EIGHT years of not winning anything.

Wetherbee also declared in his Heath hiring press conference that EMU players were tired of playing the outdated zone defense, insinuating that "we were doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result", the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein. I must admit that I totally agreed with Wetherbee.

I, however, must be fair when also critiquing the football team's performance. The program's game approach and strategy has differed little in the past six seasons as have the results. We are doing what we have been and getting the same outcomes, not a surprise. Questioning our football coach's direction and resistance to change is an issue of fairness based on established past practices with respect to Rob Murphy. It's not waffling, just an "old white guy" trying to be equitable.

Oh and bye the way, I mailed a $10K donation to Dan McLean today at EMU athletics. I doubt that would have happened if Chris Creighton were NOT our football coach. I DO love the guy!

Great post, Jerry!!! What an awesome and generous donation!!
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(10-31-2021 08:58 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(10-31-2021 08:43 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Here (in bold) are the teams I think it would be most advantageous for us to have win this week. This is from the perspective of having the least amount of bowl eligible MAC teams in case we end up 6-6, or the most possible 6-6 teams if we end up 7-5. Hopefully we end up 9-3 and none of this matters!

Tuesday's games

Ball State at Akron

Miami at Ohio

Wednesday's games

CMU at WMU

NIU at Kent State

If we are hoping to sneak in the backdoor to the MAC Championship game, we need a complete meltdown at NIU and one more Ball State loss, with the Eagles running the table to go 9-3. Unfortunately, I don't see NIU dropping three of their last four, although Ball State losing one more is not so much out of the question.

That would be the dream scenario. It's very unlikely, but in that case we'd want Kent State to win Wednesday. I've sort of given up on that dream, so I'm looking at it more through the making a bowl perspective.
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(11-01-2021 08:06 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  
(10-31-2021 08:58 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(10-31-2021 08:43 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Here (in bold) are the teams I think it would be most advantageous for us to have win this week. This is from the perspective of having the least amount of bowl eligible MAC teams in case we end up 6-6, or the most possible 6-6 teams if we end up 7-5. Hopefully we end up 9-3 and none of this matters!

Tuesday's games

Ball State at Akron

Miami at Ohio

Wednesday's games

CMU at WMU

NIU at Kent State

If we are hoping to sneak in the backdoor to the MAC Championship game, we need a complete meltdown at NIU and one more Ball State loss, with the Eagles running the table to go 9-3. Unfortunately, I don't see NIU dropping three of their last four, although Ball State losing one more is not so much out of the question.

That would be the dream scenario. It's very unlikely, but in that case we'd want Kent State to win Wednesday. I've sort of given up on that dream, so I'm looking at it more through the making a bowl perspective.

Same here Sellers. I would love for a 3-1 finish to the season getting us to the 8 win expectation most of us had. 2-2 looks more realistic and would be fine getting us to 7 wins and a very likely bowl invite.
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(11-01-2021 08:04 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(11-01-2021 05:20 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-26-2021 12:10 PM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 06:40 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 11:07 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  I hope we win out, but of the remaining teams we play, if we ranked the teams 1-5 on rushing the ball and stopping the run, where would EMU rank amongst them?

Rushing - I’m guessing:

1) CMU
2) WMU
3) Toledo
4) EMU
5) Ohio

And rank the teams at stopping the run, I’m guessing:

1) Toledo
2) CMU
3) WMU
4) Ohio
5) EMU

I predict 3-5 MAC record and 6-6 overall.

I love Creighton and will not have a pitchfork; however, I’ll be vocal about recruiting strategies, coordinator and scheme changes.

My position exactly! Chris Creighton is my dream coach, but a 3-5 MAC record will indicate stagnation, something that cannot be ignored considering his contract extension. As the AD I would want to know what he is going to change.

Assumptions and projections are always dangerous. ILet's play the remaining 4 games and then discuss. Not that it really matters. CC will be our coach next year unless he finishes at 9-3 and then he may be gone. Honestly the only place with more waffling about Creighton than this board is a Waffle House.

Honestly I don't see that much "waffling" regarding Creighton. He runs a squeaky clean program, actively markets it and has truly elevated the program. He is my dream coach, I salute Heather for hiring him.

Having stated that, EMU just pushed a MBB coach who also elevated his program, out the door. While his program discipline and marketing efforts were far inferior to Creighton's, our AD suggested that if "you haven't won anything in ten years, maybe you need to do something else". He then gave the football coach a four year contract extension after EIGHT years of not winning anything.

Wetherbee also declared in his Heath hiring press conference that EMU players were tired of playing the outdated zone defense, insinuating that "we were doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result", the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein. I must admit that I totally agreed with Wetherbee.

I, however, must be fair when also critiquing the football team's performance. The program's game approach and strategy has differed little in the past six seasons as have the results. We are doing what we have been and getting the same outcomes, not a surprise. Questioning our football coach's direction and resistance to change is an issue of fairness based on established past practices with respect to Rob Murphy. It's not waffling, just an "old white guy" trying to be equitable.

Oh and bye the way, I mailed a $10K donation to Dan McLean today at EMU athletics. I doubt that would have happened if Chris Creighton were NOT our football coach. I DO love the guy!

Great post, Jerry!!! What an awesome and generous donation!!

Great to see someone supporting their school.
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(11-02-2021 06:57 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  T
(11-01-2021 08:04 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(11-01-2021 05:20 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-26-2021 12:10 PM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 06:40 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  My position exactly! Chris Creighton is my dream coach, but a 3-5 MAC record will indicate stagnation, something that cannot be ignored considering his contract extension. As the AD I would want to know what he is going to change.

Assumptions and projections are always dangerous. ILet's play the remaining 4 games and then discuss. Not that it really matters. CC will be our coach next year unless he finishes at 9-3 and then he may be gone. Honestly the only place with more waffling about Creighton than this board is a Waffle House.

Honestly I don't see that much "waffling" regarding Creighton. He runs a squeaky clean program, actively markets it and has truly elevated the program. He is my dream coach, I salute Heather for hiring him.

Having stated that, EMU just pushed a MBB coach who also elevated his program, out the door. While his program discipline and marketing efforts were far inferior to Creighton's, our AD suggested that if "you haven't won anything in ten years, maybe you need to do something else". He then gave the football coach a four year contract extension after EIGHT years of not winning anything.

Wetherbee also declared in his Heath hiring press conference that EMU players were tired of playing the outdated zone defense, insinuating that "we were doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result", the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein. I must admit that I totally agreed with Wetherbee.

I, however, must be fair when also critiquing the football team's performance. The program's game approach and strategy has differed little in the past six seasons as have the results. We are doing what we have been and getting the same outcomes, not a surprise. Questioning our football coach's direction and resistance to change is an issue of fairness based on established past practices with respect to Rob Murphy. It's not waffling, just an "old white guy" trying to be equitable.

Oh and bye the way, I mailed a $10K donation to Dan McLean today at EMU athletics. I doubt that would have happened if Chris Creighton were NOT our football coach. I DO love the guy!

Great post, Jerry!!! What an awesome and generous donation!!

Great to see someone supporting their school.

Indeed. I just paid off my SAPC pledge in October. I write smaller checks than Jerry, though. 03-idea
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(11-02-2021 08:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-02-2021 06:57 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  T
(11-01-2021 08:04 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(11-01-2021 05:20 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-26-2021 12:10 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Assumptions and projections are always dangerous. ILet's play the remaining 4 games and then discuss. Not that it really matters. CC will be our coach next year unless he finishes at 9-3 and then he may be gone. Honestly the only place with more waffling about Creighton than this board is a Waffle House.

Honestly I don't see that much "waffling" regarding Creighton. He runs a squeaky clean program, actively markets it and has truly elevated the program. He is my dream coach, I salute Heather for hiring him.

Having stated that, EMU just pushed a MBB coach who also elevated his program, out the door. While his program discipline and marketing efforts were far inferior to Creighton's, our AD suggested that if "you haven't won anything in ten years, maybe you need to do something else". He then gave the football coach a four year contract extension after EIGHT years of not winning anything.

Wetherbee also declared in his Heath hiring press conference that EMU players were tired of playing the outdated zone defense, insinuating that "we were doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result", the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein. I must admit that I totally agreed with Wetherbee.

I, however, must be fair when also critiquing the football team's performance. The program's game approach and strategy has differed little in the past six seasons as have the results. We are doing what we have been and getting the same outcomes, not a surprise. Questioning our football coach's direction and resistance to change is an issue of fairness based on established past practices with respect to Rob Murphy. It's not waffling, just an "old white guy" trying to be equitable.

Oh and bye the way, I mailed a $10K donation to Dan McLean today at EMU athletics. I doubt that would have happened if Chris Creighton were NOT our football coach. I DO love the guy!

Great post, Jerry!!! What an awesome and generous donation!!

Great to see someone supporting their school.

Indeed. I just paid off my SAPC pledge in October. I write smaller checks than Jerry, though. 03-idea

It all helps.04-cheers
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Very nice donations. I am impressed and pleased to see that kind of loyalty to Eastern.
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I think a lot of bowl people are watching tonight. Our stature is much higher than it was hours and hours ago.
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We need to take care of business next week at home against Ohio U. That being said I noted previously the WMU and CMU games are very winnable especially if our offense is clicking on all cylinders which it appears it is.
An Ohio U win seals a certain bowl bid in my opinion. Every win after that is cherry on the top and gets an invite to a better bowl. I think the Quick Lane is the bowl all EMU folks want.
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(11-03-2021 04:24 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We need to take care of business next week at home against Ohio U. That being said I noted previously the WMU and CMU games are very winnable especially if our offense is clicking on all cylinders which it appears it is.
An Ohio U win seals a certain bowl bid in my opinion. Every win after that is cherry on the top and gets an invite to a better bowl. I think the Quick Lane is the bowl all EMU folks want.

Normally not back to back to the same bowl but ah yes there were bowl games in 2020 even though QL wasn't one of them.

One of the things about a good record and exciting team is bowl partners want you.

I would think after the great TV show last night a lot of our bowl partners would want us.

Normally, I'd guess most would prefer Detroit or somewhere like in Florida (Boca Raton). A very interesting bowl is the bowl in TUCSON vs. a MWC team on New Year's Eve.

https://fbschedules.com/college-football-bowl-schedule/
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(11-03-2021 05:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-03-2021 04:24 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We need to take care of business next week at home against Ohio U. That being said I noted previously the WMU and CMU games are very winnable especially if our offense is clicking on all cylinders which it appears it is.
An Ohio U win seals a certain bowl bid in my opinion. Every win after that is cherry on the top and gets an invite to a better bowl. I think the Quick Lane is the bowl all EMU folks want.

Normally not back to back to the same bowl but ah yes there were bowl games in 2020 even though QL wasn't one of them.

One of the things about a good record and exciting team is bowl partners want you.

I would think after the great TV show last night a lot of our bowl partners would want us.

Normally, I'd guess most would prefer Detroit or somewhere like in Florida (Boca Raton). A very interesting bowl is the bowl in TUCSON vs. a MWC team on New Year's Eve.

https://fbschedules.com/college-football-bowl-schedule/
I prefer the Quick Lane Bowl because of selfish convenience. It also puts Eastern on the local stage. A game in 2019 was in a lot of fun...until the end. Tucson is also high on the list.
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(11-03-2021 06:07 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  
(11-03-2021 05:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-03-2021 04:24 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We need to take care of business next week at home against Ohio U. That being said I noted previously the WMU and CMU games are very winnable especially if our offense is clicking on all cylinders which it appears it is.
An Ohio U win seals a certain bowl bid in my opinion. Every win after that is cherry on the top and gets an invite to a better bowl. I think the Quick Lane is the bowl all EMU folks want.

Normally not back to back to the same bowl but ah yes there were bowl games in 2020 even though QL wasn't one of them.

One of the things about a good record and exciting team is bowl partners want you.

I would think after the great TV show last night a lot of our bowl partners would want us.

Normally, I'd guess most would prefer Detroit or somewhere like in Florida (Boca Raton). A very interesting bowl is the bowl in TUCSON vs. a MWC team on New Year's Eve.

https://fbschedules.com/college-football-bowl-schedule/
I prefer the Quick Lane Bowl because of selfish convenience. It also puts Eastern on the local stage. A game in 2019 was in a lot of fun...until the end. Tucson is also high on the list.

Agree, but a lot of other nearby MAC schools might clamor for an invite. WMU might make a big pitch, esp. if they win 3 of their last 4 OR 2 - 2 and beat EMU.

Or phrased differently, I'd think the winner tonight of WMU/CMU and EMU would be the two primary targets for the QL Bowl folks.

WMU has beaten Pitt and their loss to UofM doesn't look too bad these days. I read on the Internet that UofM is a good football team. 03-lmfao
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
So going back to my original post, it looks like that information I found was correct. If you look at the bowl possibilities on the the EMU site (https://emueagles.com/feature/2021bowl) those six bowl games are tied to the MAC. Then EMU list the same other five bowls as possible MAC bowl games. According to the site I found the MAC will get two bids to those five games, bringing the MAC to a total of eight bids (assuming they have eight bowl eligible teams).

So, long story short, we should be in even at 6-6 as long as more than eight MAC teams don't end up 6-6 or better (which doesn't seem likely).

(I updated the MAC bowl picture on the first post).
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
Well we have made the last two games very interesting for ourselves.

The MAC-west is out of the question so now it is time to focus on just getting to a bowl. Again, with what appears to be eight MAC bowl bids this year, we look to be pretty safe even at 6-6. The MAC has nine teams that are/could be bowl eligible. Four teams are already eligible, and looking at the four team's schedules that need just one more win it seems likely they all get to at least 6-6. We should probably hope Buffalo loses one of their last two games (NIU and @Ball State) which would knock them out of a bowl game. At that point even if all eight teams ended up 6-6 (which I know NIU already has seven wins) they would all make a bowl based on the MAC bowl tie-ins.

Hopefully we end up 8-4 (or at least 7-5) so we don't have to worry about it, but probably want to get one more win to feel 100% safe.

MAC Bowl Picture

Bowl Eligible
Northern Illinois (7-3)
Eastern Michigan (6-4)
Western Michigan (6-4)
Central Michigan (6-4)

Need one more win
Ball State
Kent State
Miami-OH
Toledo

Need two more wins
Buffalo

Eliminated
Ohio
Akron
Bowling Green
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(11-11-2021 08:30 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Well we have made the last two games very interesting for ourselves.

The MAC-west is out of the question so now it is time to focus on just getting to a bowl. Again, with what appears to be eight MAC bowl bids this year, we look to be pretty safe even at 6-6. The MAC has nine teams that are/could be bowl eligible. Four teams are already eligible, and looking at the four team's schedules that need just one more win it seems likely they all get to at least 6-6. We should probably hope Buffalo loses one of their last two games (NIU and @Ball State) which would knock them out of a bowl game. At that point even if all eight teams ended up 6-6 (which I know NIU already has seven wins) they would all make a bowl based on the MAC bowl tie-ins.

Hopefully we end up 8-4 (or at least 7-5) so we don't have to worry about it, but probably want to get one more win to feel 100% safe.

MAC Bowl Picture

Bowl Eligible
Northern Illinois (7-3)
Eastern Michigan (6-4)
Western Michigan (6-4)
Central Michigan (6-4)

Need one more win
Ball State
Kent State
Miami-OH
Toledo

Need two more wins
Buffalo

Eliminated
Ohio
Akron
Bowling Green

Two thoughts:

1). We are in the top tier of teams (i.e., those already eligible). So why everyone hanging black crepe? We are tied for second.


2). If we lose BOTH remaining games, a 3-game losing streak, that is time to hang the black crepe and ask about going bowling 6 - 6.
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RE: 2021 bowl discussion
(11-11-2021 11:11 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-11-2021 08:30 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Well we have made the last two games very interesting for ourselves.

The MAC-west is out of the question so now it is time to focus on just getting to a bowl. Again, with what appears to be eight MAC bowl bids this year, we look to be pretty safe even at 6-6. The MAC has nine teams that are/could be bowl eligible. Four teams are already eligible, and looking at the four team's schedules that need just one more win it seems likely they all get to at least 6-6. We should probably hope Buffalo loses one of their last two games (NIU and @Ball State) which would knock them out of a bowl game. At that point even if all eight teams ended up 6-6 (which I know NIU already has seven wins) they would all make a bowl based on the MAC bowl tie-ins.

Hopefully we end up 8-4 (or at least 7-5) so we don't have to worry about it, but probably want to get one more win to feel 100% safe.

MAC Bowl Picture

Bowl Eligible
Northern Illinois (7-3)
Eastern Michigan (6-4)
Western Michigan (6-4)
Central Michigan (6-4)

Need one more win
Ball State
Kent State
Miami-OH
Toledo

Need two more wins
Buffalo

Eliminated
Ohio
Akron
Bowling Green

Two thoughts:

1). We are in the top tier of teams (i.e., those already eligible). So why everyone hanging black crepe? We are tied for second.


2). If we lose BOTH remaining games, a 3-game losing streak, that is time to hang the black crepe and ask about going bowling 6 - 6.
Yes, we're in the top tier! We beat A FCS school, UMASS, Texas St, Miami, BGSU, and Toledo! We beat Miami by one point with a backup QB, and we got extremely lucky beating Toledo(gave up 676 yds)! Not one of those teams has a winning record! Toledo is 5-5! And, the defense has been mindboggling to watch! Yes, I definitely see your point, and 7-5 is respectable! We simply can't go 6-6, and have a losing MAC record! We'll never have an easier schedule! St Francis, UMASS, Texas St, BGSU are four schools that have really struggled! Fight Focus Finish! CC needs to win next week! W Mich lost to Toledo by 19 points! No excuses! 7-5, and 4-4 is a step up.........
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