(10-23-2021 09:03 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:33 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This is very telling actually. With Tarleton's desire to go FBS, I think they will go to C-USA if the opportunity arises rather than waiting and hoping that the WAC goes FBS in the future. I do not think the UTAH schools have the desire or potential for FBS and the other Texas schools seem to want FCS more. The eastern teams in C=USA can go to the MAC or independent and C-USA can build a true Middle America type conference. IF Tarleton along with SHSU and McNeese join think about this footprint.

Tarleton
SHSU
UTEP
NMSU
LA TECH
MCNESSE

Lose Directional hillibillly Community Colleges of MTSU & WKU and add in the 4 Dakotas along with Montana and Idaho. A beautiful 12 team N-S league with TV Appeal.

Wow...I came over here to introduce myself and see what the Tarleton Texans were like and I read this. It's a sports message board and smack is expected but I'm not sure the bolded part above is the approach I'd take to introduce myself to potential new conference mates if I were interested in moving to their conference. First impressions are everything.

Regardless, no....WKU is not a community college. Yes, we have the same minimum requirements for admittance that Tarleton does (ACT minimum is the same). Our admittance rate is higher because in Kentucky, if a Kentucky resident meets the minimum requirements for a public university, they are accepted. Obviously, WKU isn't in a major metro area so we don't get the volume of applicants you may, given your location near the Dallas/Ft Worth metro. WKU has several national ranked academic programs.....Photo Jounalism, Forensics, Business, etc. OK...I'm not going to go down the long list of academic accolades and prestigious accomplishments but I did feel the need to defend my school.

Also, hillbillies is a misnomer...or at least it doesn't completley apply to WKU. Bowling Green, Kentucky is a generally flat topographic area with some gently rolling hills. In fact, the city of Bowling Green has one big hill and that's where the University is located. It's a beautiful campus that's visible from great distance because the hill rises above the horizon. We're called the Hilltoppers because the residents of the city back in the early 1900's referred to the students who lived on the hilltop as Hilltoppers. The stereotype of hillbillies generally refers to people in the Appalachian area of eastern Kentucky. Bowling Green isn't in Appalachia.

There's your history and geography lesson for the day...

Now, as far as Tarleton's interest in CUSA, I did some research earlier today because I'd never heard of your university before it was mentioned yesterday in media releases. I was impressed with your history of athletic success at the D2 level, your stadium expansion and what appears to be a strong desire to move up and succeed. Ya'll may be a great candidate. Of course, I'm just an anonymous message board poster and don't make those decisions.

WKU has a long history of success in basketball and football and are always eager to compete with like minded schools. Hopefully ya'll are the same.

Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

The only thing I know for certain about tarleton is that they are gettin their A$$ kicked next Saturday

(10-23-2021 11:25 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

LOL...Won't happen. If I judged every fanbase, including our own, based on posts from just one or two fans, I'd have a pretty depressing view of all college fanbases. I've been around long enough to know that most every fanbase is extremely diverse...lots of great folks to chat and banter with and a random knucklehead here and there....well except University of Kentucky fans, they're all toothless idiots.

(10-23-2021 11:41 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:25 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

LOL...Won't happen. If I judged every fanbase, including our own, based on posts from just one or two fans, I'd have a pretty depressing view of all college fanbases. I've been around long enough to know that most every fanbase is extremely diverse...lots of great folks to chat and banter with and a random knucklehead here and there....well except University of Kentucky fans, they're all toothless idiots.

Here is what I know about WKU- some great basketball and this year some entertaining fb. Your offense (Known in these parts as Houston Baptist East ) can put up the points. Now, if you could figure out the defensive thingy you’d have something. :)

(10-23-2021 11:00 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 10:45 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:16 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:18 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  Google acceptance rate for Tarleton, WKU and MTSU... you are nothing more than a glorified communtiy college. You have a 97% acceptance rate, that = community college. Forest Gump could get into WKU and MTSU. How in the hell do you think the MAC would want you I do not know, but I hope they do take you because we do not want you!

First off, neither of those schools are "mine."

Secondly, the acceptance rate is irrelevant to brand in this case.

More people actually know those schools because they've beaten nationally-ranked Michigan State in the NCAA Tournament. They have beaten schools like Georgia Tech in football, who would make Tarleton look like Cumberland College.

I'd say if Judy thinks the little podunk school from Stephensomewhere, TX is so valuable, then she can take you guys and UTEP, and all the REAL 1-A schools east of Texas will continue in FBS without that that glorified 1-AA conference posturing as an FBS league.

Although, I'd much rather the league keep UTEP and add actual 1-A teams like New Mexico State that can add value to Conference USA.

I guess your clueless as to how bad Tarleton trounced NMSU in football. You are probably as clueless as to what Tarleton is building in Ft Worth.

I really don't care what a team that has played for conference championships did to a dilapidated program that hasn't a had a conference in years. It changes nothing. Also, Stephenville, Texas is not Fort Worth. Texas Christian is the only marketable program and brand in Fort Worth.

Not true. As more and more students choose Tarleton as a public school and more affordable over the more expensive private school TCU you will see. I think you are also clueless as to who is the driving force behind the emergence of Tarleton. You are also clueless about the PUF access that the school has access to. Tarrant County JC has one of the largest enrollments in the state over 50,000 that can easily transfer over to Tarleton after the first two years. Economics 101, or did you miss that class?

Sounds like the WAC and the FCS is a good fit for you. Best wishes.

(10-23-2021 11:41 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:25 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

LOL...Won't happen. If I judged every fanbase, including our own, based on posts from just one or two fans, I'd have a pretty depressing view of all college fanbases. I've been around long enough to know that most every fanbase is extremely diverse...lots of great folks to chat and banter with and a random knucklehead here and there....well except University of Kentucky fans, they're all toothless idiots.

I’m guessing you don’t know based on your never hearing of us, but our starting QB transferred from Western Kentucky, Steven Duncan. So thanks.

(10-24-2021 09:38 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:41 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:25 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

LOL...Won't happen. If I judged every fanbase, including our own, based on posts from just one or two fans, I'd have a pretty depressing view of all college fanbases. I've been around long enough to know that most every fanbase is extremely diverse...lots of great folks to chat and banter with and a random knucklehead here and there....well except University of Kentucky fans, they're all toothless idiots.

I’m guessing you don’t know based on your never hearing of us, but our starting QB transferred from Western Kentucky, Steven Duncan. So thanks.

Actually, I had read that about Duncan somewhere in the last day or so. Hope he's working out ok for you guys.

(10-24-2021 09:38 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:41 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:25 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

LOL...Won't happen. If I judged every fanbase, including our own, based on posts from just one or two fans, I'd have a pretty depressing view of all college fanbases. I've been around long enough to know that most every fanbase is extremely diverse...lots of great folks to chat and banter with and a random knucklehead here and there....well except University of Kentucky fans, they're all toothless idiots.

I’m guessing you don’t know based on your never hearing of us, but our starting QB transferred from Western Kentucky, Steven Duncan. So thanks.

Meanwhile WKU picked up Houston Baptist’s QB who has been lighting up their scoreboard.

(10-24-2021 09:54 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 09:38 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:41 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:25 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

LOL...Won't happen. If I judged every fanbase, including our own, based on posts from just one or two fans, I'd have a pretty depressing view of all college fanbases. I've been around long enough to know that most every fanbase is extremely diverse...lots of great folks to chat and banter with and a random knucklehead here and there....well except University of Kentucky fans, they're all toothless idiots.

I’m guessing you don’t know based on your never hearing of us, but our starting QB transferred from Western Kentucky, Steven Duncan. So thanks.

Meanwhile WKU picked up Houston Baptist’s QB who has been lighting up their scoreboard.

Not only the QB (Bailey Zappe) but HB's OC and a receiver or two from HB. I believe Zappe is leading all of FBS right now in passing yards. They've really lit up our offense and it's exciting to watch. Dude is a stud.

(10-24-2021 07:58 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:00 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 10:45 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:16 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:18 AM)All4One Wrote:  First off, neither of those schools are "mine."

Secondly, the acceptance rate is irrelevant to brand in this case.

More people actually know those schools because they've beaten nationally-ranked Michigan State in the NCAA Tournament. They have beaten schools like Georgia Tech in football, who would make Tarleton look like Cumberland College.

I'd say if Judy thinks the little podunk school from Stephensomewhere, TX is so valuable, then she can take you guys and UTEP, and all the REAL 1-A schools east of Texas will continue in FBS without that that glorified 1-AA conference posturing as an FBS league.

Although, I'd much rather the league keep UTEP and add actual 1-A teams like New Mexico State that can add value to Conference USA.

I guess your clueless as to how bad Tarleton trounced NMSU in football. You are probably as clueless as to what Tarleton is building in Ft Worth.

I really don't care what a team that has played for conference championships did to a dilapidated program that hasn't a had a conference in years. It changes nothing. Also, Stephenville, Texas is not Fort Worth. Texas Christian is the only marketable program and brand in Fort Worth.

Not true. As more and more students choose Tarleton as a public school and more affordable over the more expensive private school TCU you will see. I think you are also clueless as to who is the driving force behind the emergence of Tarleton. You are also clueless about the PUF access that the school has access to. Tarrant County JC has one of the largest enrollments in the state over 50,000 that can easily transfer over to Tarleton after the first two years. Economics 101, or did you miss that class?

Sounds like the WAC and the FCS is a good fit for you. Best wishes.

Just curious since you seem to have all the answers for everyone else, what school do you represent or are a fan of? If your school is in the C-USA and has not been poached then your sitting in a house on fire. -9 in a week. Wow

The driving force behind the emergence of Tarleton? You make it sound like Tarleton is some kind of emerging world super power. But All4One is correct that wanting to and being able to support an FBS program is more than just being able to say you beat NMSU in a scrimmage after we hadn’t played or practiced in over a year and had around 50 players transfer. I mean it was cool that you guys won. But it’s only one of the “defining moments in sports history” to Tarleton fans.

(10-24-2021 10:04 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 09:54 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 09:38 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:41 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:25 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Please don’t judge Tarleton one the basis of one poster or perhaps three.

LOL...Won't happen. If I judged every fanbase, including our own, based on posts from just one or two fans, I'd have a pretty depressing view of all college fanbases. I've been around long enough to know that most every fanbase is extremely diverse...lots of great folks to chat and banter with and a random knucklehead here and there....well except University of Kentucky fans, they're all toothless idiots.

I’m guessing you don’t know based on your never hearing of us, but our starting QB transferred from Western Kentucky, Steven Duncan. So thanks.

Meanwhile WKU picked up Houston Baptist’s QB who has been lighting up their scoreboard.

Not only the QB (Bailey Zappe) but HB's OC and a receiver or two from HB. I believe Zappe is leading all of FBS right now in passing yards. They've really lit up our offense and it's exciting to watch. Dude is a stud.

Enjoy Zach Kittley while you can. He’s destined for a HC position or P5 offensive coordinator spot sooner rather than later.

(10-24-2021 10:44 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  Enjoy Zach Kittley while you can. He’s destined for a HC position or P5 offensive coordinator spot sooner rather than later.

That's a given. At the FBS G5 level, we're used to it. It's a revolving door of coaches, especially for programs like WKU that continuously succeed....that applies to basketball and football. We've lost so many coaches to to the Big 10, the SEC, etc over the years, I've lost track.

(10-24-2021 10:42 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  The driving force behind the emergence of Tarleton? You make it sound like Tarleton is some kind of emerging world super power. But All4One is correct that wanting to and being able to support an FBS program is more than just being able to say you beat NMSU in a scrimmage after we hadn’t played or practiced in over a year and had around 50 players transfer. I mean it was cool that you guys won. But it’s only one of the “defining moments in sports history” to Tarleton fans.

If you don’t know how and why Tarleton is growing as such a rapid clip then why show your ignorance. All4One is great at bashing other schools and having all the answers but yet doesn’t show any affiliation for any school. I guess in that way you can’t point out their shortcomings. My pointing out that TSU routed NMSU was to show him that everything he’s espoused isn’t so black and white. He makes assumptions about schools he knows little about other than what he can google.

I personally think TSU needs to use this decade to prepare for the next step. SHSU and NMSU are in a better position to make the jump. But, i think without any other schools joining it would be like trying to cross an ice pond in late spring. I’m sure C-USA is talking to dozens of schools.

Everyone should do what Liberty did, tell them no thank you.

(10-23-2021 09:03 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:33 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This is very telling actually. With Tarleton's desire to go FBS, I think they will go to C-USA if the opportunity arises rather than waiting and hoping that the WAC goes FBS in the future. I do not think the UTAH schools have the desire or potential for FBS and the other Texas schools seem to want FCS more. The eastern teams in C=USA can go to the MAC or independent and C-USA can build a true Middle America type conference. IF Tarleton along with SHSU and McNeese join think about this footprint.

Tarleton
SHSU
UTEP
NMSU
LA TECH
MCNESSE

Lose Directional hillibillly Community Colleges of MTSU & WKU and add in the 4 Dakotas along with Montana and Idaho. A beautiful 12 team N-S league with TV Appeal.

Wow...I came over here to introduce myself and see what the Tarleton Texans were like and I read this. It's a sports message board and smack is expected but I'm not sure the bolded part above is the approach I'd take to introduce myself to potential new conference mates if I were interested in moving to their conference. First impressions are everything.

Regardless, no....WKU is not a community college. Yes, we have the same minimum requirements for admittance that Tarleton does (ACT minimum is the same). Our admittance rate is higher because in Kentucky, if a Kentucky resident meets the minimum requirements for a public university, they are accepted. Obviously, WKU isn't in a major metro area so we don't get the volume of applicants you may, given your location near the Dallas/Ft Worth metro. WKU has several national ranked academic programs.....Photo Jounalism, Forensics, Business, etc. OK...I'm not going to go down the long list of academic accolades and prestigious accomplishments but I did feel the need to defend my school.

Also, hillbillies is a misnomer...or at least it doesn't completley apply to WKU. Bowling Green, Kentucky is a generally flat topographic area with some gently rolling hills. In fact, the city of Bowling Green has one big hill and that's where the University is located. It's a beautiful campus that's visible from great distance because the hill rises above the horizon. We're called the Hilltoppers because the residents of the city back in the early 1900's referred to the students who lived on the hilltop as Hilltoppers. The stereotype of hillbillies generally refers to people in the Appalachian area of eastern Kentucky. Bowling Green isn't in Appalachia.

There's your history and geography lesson for the day...

Now, as far as Tarleton's interest in CUSA, I did some research earlier today because I'd never heard of your university before it was mentioned yesterday in media releases. I was impressed with your history of athletic success at the D2 level, your stadium expansion and what appears to be a strong desire to move up and succeed. Ya'll may be a great candidate. Of course, I'm just an anonymous message board poster and don't make those decisions.

WKU has a long history of success in basketball and football and are always eager to compete with like minded schools. Hopefully ya'll are the same.

I’ve been to BG back when we were playing basketball in the SBC (Lou Henson, part II) and I loved the place. Corvette museum, nice people and a beautiful area. We had a lot of fun at the game (nice arena) too. It’s really not as “Backwater” as some may suggest.

GO AGGIES!!!

(10-24-2021 01:01 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  Everyone should do what Liberty did, tell them no thank you.

Is that what you expect NMSU to do? Just curious.

The Texas 4 moved to the WAC together so why wouldn't they try to make the jump together to FBS? Not sure about ACU but the other 3 already have budgets of $19+ million. Tarleton's budget is under $14 million. How fast can they raise their budget? But they're already in the process of expanding their stadium to 20k+. How fast can the Texas 4 do that. Lamar's stadium was originally designed to be expanded to 30K. Adding 5k of end zone sitting is doable to get to 20k if need be. SHSU has the advantage of a strong football program along with a growing enrollment to help fund a move to FBS.

Any rebuilt CUSA will comprised of small market schools so winning football and basketball programs will be even more important. And what will become of SUU if all of a sudden the WAC loses the Texas teams? Will WAC football die before it gets rolling again?

Funny thing is that the Texas 4 were the first to get this conference realignment party started!

(10-24-2021 01:57 PM)coachacola Wrote:  The Texas 4 moved to the WAC together so why wouldn't they try to make the jump together to FBS? Not sure about ACU but the other 3 already have budgets of $19+ million. Tarleton's budget is under $14 million. How fast can they raise their budget? But they're already in the process of expanding their stadium to 20k+. How fast can the Texas 4 do that. Lamar's stadium was originally designed to be expanded to 30K. Adding 5k of end zone sitting is doable to get to 20k if need be. SHSU has the advantage of a strong football program along with a growing enrollment to help fund a move to FBS.

Any rebuilt CUSA will comprised of small market schools so winning football and basketball programs will be even more important. And what will become of SUU if all of a sudden the WAC loses the Texas teams? Will WAC football die before it gets rolling again?

Funny thing is that the Texas 4 were the first to get this conference realignment party started!

ACU’s budget is in the same range as the other schools. The same dollar amount doesn’t go as far at ACU as the other schools though. Budgets include scholarship money and ACU’s private school tuition is way more than at public institutions.

Tarleton has a potential sugar daddy as part of the TAMU system. If big daddy wants Tarleton to go to FBS ASAP, sugar daddy could write the check to jump start Tarleton’s budget.

(10-24-2021 10:42 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  The driving force behind the emergence of Tarleton? You make it sound like Tarleton is some kind of emerging world super power. But All4One is correct that wanting to and being able to support an FBS program is more than just being able to say you beat NMSU in a scrimmage after we hadn’t played or practiced in over a year and had around 50 players transfer. I mean it was cool that you guys won. But it’s only one of the “defining moments in sports history” to Tarleton fans.

Ohhhh YAWN! Same ol' excuses spewing from the same poop-filled halitosified mouths. Stinks to high heaven. Promise you, Tarleton doesn't give two squats about handing nmsu a thorough beatdown. As fun as it is to point out we're *officially* 1-0 against FBS opponents, it was just a practice for us, or at least ended up that way. You are aware that our 2nd string came in mid-1st quarter and finished out? That's right, our QB2 came in and ran all over your 1st team defense like he was high-stepping a Pop Warner squad. We knew you guys sucked at Football, but man, we had no idea just how bad it is. You had a chance to at least earn some respect as the league's only FBS conference mate and you choked. Tarleton and nmsu line up 10 times, Tarleton walks away 10-0. #Facts. Better check yourself on the Basketball front as well, this ain't same WAC it was a year ago. No excuses this year, chumps.