The remaining schools could come up some football scheduling alliance and then put their non-football teams in a regional conference (Tech/UTEP in the WAC, FIU in the A-Sun, WKU/MTSU in the MVC, etc.). That's 4 built-in games. Then add 3 more from UConn/UMass/NMSU/Liberty. Then you're just having to schedule 5 "non-conference" games which I guess is kinda doable.

(10-22-2021 11:50 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  The remaining schools could come up some football scheduling alliance and then put their non-football teams in a regional conference (Tech/UTEP in the WAC, FIU in the A-Sun, WKU/MTSU in the MVC, etc.). That's 4 built-in games. Then add 3 more from UConn/UMass/NMSU/Liberty. Then you're just having to schedule 5 "non-conference" games which I guess is kinda doable.

It would be even better and smarter to rebuild the conference to retain the cfp money, etc. The cfp money was $17M this past year for cusa. Also retaining our ncaa autobids.

(10-22-2021 12:09 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 11:50 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  The remaining schools could come up some football scheduling alliance and then put their non-football teams in a regional conference (Tech/UTEP in the WAC, FIU in the A-Sun, WKU/MTSU in the MVC, etc.). That's 4 built-in games. Then add 3 more from UConn/UMass/NMSU/Liberty. Then you're just having to schedule 5 "non-conference" games which I guess is kinda doable.

It would be even better and smarter to rebuild the conference to retain the cfp money, etc. The cfp money was $17M this past year for cusa. Also retaining our ncaa autobids.

Yep. The issue with independent football isn't scheduling games. It's keeping the lights on. If you have a 5-6 team scheduling alliance, you might as well make a conference out of it.

I'm sure the leftovers also want those 30 million in exit fees. I don't see any of us going independent. The same way schools are selling their organs to jump from the CUSA to the AAC is the same way FCS will do to jump to an FBS conference.

Rebuild. And do it with programs this time not markets. I thought the best program adds last time were Tech and WKU. They're still here. The markets never developed, didn't help the TV contract, and are all gone except for FIU.

(10-22-2021 11:50 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  The remaining schools could come up some football scheduling alliance and then put their non-football teams in a regional conference (Tech/UTEP in the WAC, FIU in the A-Sun, WKU/MTSU in the MVC, etc.). That's 4 built-in games. Then add 3 more from UConn/UMass/NMSU/Liberty. Then you're just having to schedule 5 "non-conference" games which I guess is kinda doable.

Why would the five schools dissolve the conference when they are set to make 27 million from all you deserters? Why would we let all of you off the hook for that cash?

(10-22-2021 12:37 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 11:50 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  The remaining schools could come up some football scheduling alliance and then put their non-football teams in a regional conference (Tech/UTEP in the WAC, FIU in the A-Sun, WKU/MTSU in the MVC, etc.). That's 4 built-in games. Then add 3 more from UConn/UMass/NMSU/Liberty. Then you're just having to schedule 5 "non-conference" games which I guess is kinda doable.

Why would the five schools dissolve the conference when they are set to make 27 million from all you deserters? Why would we let all of you off the hook for that cash?

Exactly. I like how posters of the leaving schools have all of these great ideas that will lead to their team not having to pay an exit fee. It's pretty clear what CUSA will need to do and disbanding is not an option.

Glossing over the fact that we can't afford not to, how exactly is USM paying our exit fees? Do we have any?

Are we using the money we got from the first AAC exodus to fund this?

I'll hang up and listen.

We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

This is the answer I was angling for, I remember the exit fees being a huge topic of conversation and in the end no one had to pay a dime. I don't think Louisville or Cincy paid when they left either...

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

Yes we did.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/m...1bcc6.html

http://www.piratemedia1.com/news/article...acb8e.html

Plenty of more articles you can dig for yourself.

(10-22-2021 01:09 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

This is the answer I was angling for, I remember the exit fees being a huge topic of conversation and in the end no one had to pay a dime. I don't think Louisville or Cincy paid when they left either...

Google can be your informant and your friend. You two should try it sometimes.

(10-22-2021 12:32 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  Rebuild. And do it with programs this time not markets. I thought the best program adds last time were Tech and WKU. They're still here. The markets never developed, didn't help the TV contract, and are all gone except for FIU.

I would suggest that FAU (a "market" team) did develop, as witnessed by 2 conference titles.

(10-22-2021 01:18 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

Yes we did.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/m...1bcc6.html

http://www.piratemedia1.com/news/article...acb8e.html

Plenty of more articles you can dig for yourself.

Thanks, doesn't look like it was much...I was wondering how we could afford to do it.

(10-22-2021 01:31 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:18 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

Yes we did.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/m...1bcc6.html

http://www.piratemedia1.com/news/article...acb8e.html

Plenty of more articles you can dig for yourself.

Thanks, doesn't look like it was much...I was wondering how we could afford to do it.

Things were also different then. There was much more negotiating power for exiting schools and schools coming in because there were plenty of applicants to CUSA to choose from. This time there aren't very many applicants and that means negotiating power is pretty much non-existent.

The exit fees will either be paid to the remaining members.

Or the conference dissolves, and the exit fees are not paid.

(10-22-2021 01:31 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:18 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

Yes we did.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/m...1bcc6.html

http://www.piratemedia1.com/news/article...acb8e.html

Plenty of more articles you can dig for yourself.

Thanks, doesn't look like it was much...I was wondering how we could afford to do it.

36 million for losing 8 members is more than we will get now for losing 9 members.

(10-22-2021 01:43 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:31 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:18 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

Yes we did.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/m...1bcc6.html

http://www.piratemedia1.com/news/article...acb8e.html

Plenty of more articles you can dig for yourself.

Thanks, doesn't look like it was much...I was wondering how we could afford to do it.

36 million for losing 8 members is more than we will get now for losing 9 members.

It says ECU paid $1.4 million to leave. I don't know if being a charter member means our fees will be reduced I just figured it wouldn't be very high, if at all...

(10-22-2021 01:53 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:43 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:31 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:18 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

Yes we did.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/m...1bcc6.html

http://www.piratemedia1.com/news/article...acb8e.html

Plenty of more articles you can dig for yourself.

Thanks, doesn't look like it was much...I was wondering how we could afford to do it.

36 million for losing 8 members is more than we will get now for losing 9 members.

It says ECU paid $1.4 million to leave. I don't know if being a charter member means our fees will be reduced I just figured it wouldn't be very high, if at all...

Its 2 years of all conference revenue that would have been disbursed to you. Somewhere between 5 and 6 million. But it won't come out of your pocket. It will just be witheld from each school.

(10-22-2021 01:53 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:43 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:31 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:18 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 01:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  We didn’t get any money from the original AAC exodus. I genuinely don’t believe one of those schools paid a penny to leave.

Yes we did.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/m...1bcc6.html

http://www.piratemedia1.com/news/article...acb8e.html

Plenty of more articles you can dig for yourself.

Thanks, doesn't look like it was much...I was wondering how we could afford to do it.

36 million for losing 8 members is more than we will get now for losing 9 members.

It says ECU paid $1.4 million to leave. I don't know if being a charter member means our fees will be reduced I just figured it wouldn't be very high, if at all...

That's where I'm lost too. Originally ECU was suppose to pay 7 million to exit CUSA. That's the only article I could find of them actually paying money. Schools and conferences are known to negotiate exit fees and also pay in installments. Maybe ECU paid more money the next year or two.

I see MIW explained it above my comment. That makes sense now. 1.4 in cash and somewhere between 5 and 6 million withheld add up to their 7 million exit fee.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...e054c.html

If the MAC takes WKU and MTSU then it's over, stick a fork in it, it's gone with 3 left.