(10-19-2021 10:33 AM)slycat Wrote:  You don't have an open play at USM and Marshall and just ignore it. You won't get a chance to add those types of programs easily again. Plus get to 12 and pad the conference a little. If we somehow lost two then getting those types of teams gets really hard.

If C-USA can rebuild with Marshall and Southern Miss still there then that is a huge loss for the Sun Belt.

You get a Mid-Atlantic group of Liberty, JMU, ODU, Marshall, and WKU then that is a good core 5 in the CUSA. LT and Southern Miss would help obviously in the West. Those 7 make up a good conference.

We can argue about 2 or 4 later. Strike while the iron is hot and invite Southern Miss and Marshall.

(10-19-2021 10:36 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  If the Sun Belt stays pat at 10 then regional realignment is gaining traction. It's the only reason to not at a minimum invite USM and Marshall. No way the Sun Belt would pass on that potential opportunity...

Has little to do with that. App wants 14. Not everyone wants 14. There’s questions about the best way to proceed

I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping

(10-19-2021 10:03 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/aac-...ttmcmurphy

The biggest winner in the latest round of conference realignment musical chairs is independent Liberty. The Flames will be a top target of C-USA and/or the Sun Belt.

The Sun Belt, once intrigued about the possibility of expanding beyond 10 schools, appears as if it may not explore new members now, sources said.

With eight remaining members, Conference USA had to add at least two schools. One source suggested that the Sun Belt now could try to poach schools from Conference USA, such as Marshall or Southern Miss. Despite the losses, the conference remains optimistic.

“We will be much better without those six schools,” a C-USA source said. “The AAC will see their College Football Playoff rankings drop in the Group of Five. We have a chance to leapfrog them. This is a good day for C-USA.”

This is a good day for CUSA . . .Wut? Seriously?

I think Custer said something similar just before setting out for The Little Big Horn.

(10-19-2021 10:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:36 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  If the Sun Belt stays pat at 10 then regional realignment is gaining traction. It's the only reason to not at a minimum invite USM and Marshall. No way the Sun Belt would pass on that potential opportunity...

Has little to do with that. App wants 14. Not everyone wants 14. There’s questions about the best way to proceed

I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping

One way to move Marshall along might be to have someone tell Brett McMurphy the SBC "may" just stay at 10.

(10-19-2021 10:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:05 AM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  McMurphy is wrong about the Belt not expanding

I replied to a private message last night saying we may just stay at 10.

While I think expanding to 14 is a bad idea, I also think standing pat could be worse.

Add Southern Miss and Marshall, both are ideal for the conference, and both make the conference stronger.

Options are:

USM
Marshall
WKU

I don't see MTSU, ODU, FIU, or LA Tech being a top two option and UTEP is on an island.

Plus I don't see all six CUSA schools being asked to join the AAC the first round, anyone it that group (outside of UAB) that would be considered.

(10-19-2021 10:42 AM)raptorbpw Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:36 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  If the Sun Belt stays pat at 10 then regional realignment is gaining traction. It's the only reason to not at a minimum invite USM and Marshall. No way the Sun Belt would pass on that potential opportunity...

Has little to do with that. App wants 14. Not everyone wants 14. There’s questions about the best way to proceed

I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping

One way to move Marshall along might be to have someone tell Brett McMurphy the SBC "may" just stay at 10.

I thought the exact same thing.

Marshall isn't in a place to negotiate but I applaud the effort. It is like going to a job interview and they say it pays $75k and you say I will do it for 100k and the say it pays 75k and they say deal.

(10-19-2021 10:37 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:33 AM)slycat Wrote:  You don't have an open play at USM and Marshall and just ignore it. You won't get a chance to add those types of programs easily again. Plus get to 12 and pad the conference a little. If we somehow lost two then getting those types of teams gets really hard.

If C-USA can rebuild with Marshall and Southern Miss still there then that is a huge loss for the Sun Belt.

You get a Mid-Atlantic group of Liberty, JMU, ODU, Marshall, and WKU then that is a good core 5 in the CUSA. LT and Southern Miss would help obviously in the West. Those 7 make up a good conference.

We can argue about 2 or 4 later. Strike while the iron is hot and invite Southern Miss and Marshall.

Agreed, if we don’t move at all I think it’s a mistake. May actually help catapult CUSA

If we do go to 14 I have a feeling WKU will be involved in some way. That's a property I'm sure ESPN wants in their portfolio

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(10-19-2021 10:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:36 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  If the Sun Belt stays pat at 10 then regional realignment is gaining traction. It's the only reason to not at a minimum invite USM and Marshall. No way the Sun Belt would pass on that potential opportunity...

Has little to do with that. App wants 14. Not everyone wants 14. There’s questions about the best way to proceed

I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping

Then screw Marshall, they can remain in CUSA and help with their rebuild. If they want to be here, great, Welcome them with open arms, but their trying to dictate the terms by which they come is crap.

(10-19-2021 10:23 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  Would love to see the Sun Belt add Marshall, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, and Liberty. With App State, Georgia Southern, Louisiana, Arkansas State, ect... would pass up the new marketz AAC no problem.

Those 4 added would be make the Sun Belt incredible. If Liberty and JMU go to CUSA, if helps them out a lot, actually.

(10-19-2021 10:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:36 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  If the Sun Belt stays pat at 10 then regional realignment is gaining traction. It's the only reason to not at a minimum invite USM and Marshall. No way the Sun Belt would pass on that potential opportunity...

Has little to do with that. App wants 14. Not everyone wants 14. There’s questions about the best way to proceed

I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping

Obviously I don't run App State, but I think the school has to recognize that this is a Texas-to-Carolinas league. The Carolinas end can't expect to add three schools in their favor and for the Texas/Louisiana to just go along with it with only one school that benefits them more.

This is why I think if you go to 12, just add Marshall and USM. For 14, Marshall, USM, and another for the western/older members (WKU) and one for the eastern/newer end (JMU).

La. Tech--I just don't see how they get a supermajority.

(10-19-2021 10:42 AM)raptorbpw Wrote:  One way to move Marshall along might be to have someone tell Brett McMurphy the SBC "may" just stay at 10.

Oooooooo... this is a good guess. I'd say unlikely, but perfectly possible.

(10-19-2021 10:43 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  While I think expanding to 14 is a bad idea, I also think standing pat could be worse.

Add Southern Miss and Marshall, both are ideal for the conference, and both make the conference stronger.

Agree 100%

I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping
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Do you think after the news last night we'll continue to be stubborn? I really don't see why we're trying to insist WKU comes along

Marshall may be happy with sticking around FIU and adding JMU and Liberty. USM clearly wants out. So take them and whoever else is looking to get out. I am sure UTEP wants out and won't get a look.

(10-19-2021 10:48 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:36 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  If the Sun Belt stays pat at 10 then regional realignment is gaining traction. It's the only reason to not at a minimum invite USM and Marshall. No way the Sun Belt would pass on that potential opportunity...

Has little to do with that. App wants 14. Not everyone wants 14. There’s questions about the best way to proceed

I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping

Obviously I don't run App State, but I think the school has to recognize that this is a Texas-to-Carolinas league. The Carolinas end can't expect to add three schools in their favor and for the Texas/Louisiana to just go along with it with only one school that benefits them more.

This is why I think if you go to 12, just add Marshall and USM. For 14, Marshall, USM, and another for the western/older members (WKU) and one for the eastern/newer end (JMU).

La. Tech--I just don't see how they get a supermajority.

I could be completely misreading the situation but I would guess that the West would be more interested in Troy as a division member than WKU.

I'm sure the big issue is the West either wants to just stay at 12 or wants to add a second Texas school.

SUCKS the Alabama schools have to where the line splits.

First regarding AFA/CSU. In 2019 I made reservations to be in Colorado July 4, I had plane reservations. If you had “reported” Arkstfan is going to Colorado in July you would have been right. Until I got diagnosed with cancer and couldn’t travel and had to cancel my plans. Up until I cancelled the report was accurate.

As to Sun Belt sticking at 10.

I believe that is going to be the official stance until the right 2 or right 4 are committed. I’m sure there are people in CUSA today making calls to ESPN asking what various combinations are worth and hoping to put together a deal to survive.

(10-19-2021 10:41 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 10:03 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/aac-...ttmcmurphy

The biggest winner in the latest round of conference realignment musical chairs is independent Liberty. The Flames will be a top target of C-USA and/or the Sun Belt.

The Sun Belt, once intrigued about the possibility of expanding beyond 10 schools, appears as if it may not explore new members now, sources said.

With eight remaining members, Conference USA had to add at least two schools. One source suggested that the Sun Belt now could try to poach schools from Conference USA, such as Marshall or Southern Miss. Despite the losses, the conference remains optimistic.

“We will be much better without those six schools,” a C-USA source said. “The AAC will see their College Football Playoff rankings drop in the Group of Five. We have a chance to leapfrog them. This is a good day for C-USA.”

This is a good day for CUSA . . .Wut? Seriously?

I think Custer said something similar just before setting out for The Little Big Horn.

It really depends on if we can hang onto USM, Marshall, LT and WKU. If we can then we really are losing a lot of dead weight (losing UAB and FAU sting). The issue CUSA ran into last time was adding markets. It never panned out and it’s like we’re getting a second chance. If we can add JMU and Liberty that’s a solid conference. I wish we could shed FIU but it is what it is.

Marshall
WKU
MTSU
ODU
UTEP
USM
LT
Liberty
JMU
FIU

(10-19-2021 10:54 AM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  I believe we will add, but there are a lot of things to work out first. Marshall’s insistence on bringing friends along is not helping

Do you think after the news last night we'll continue to be stubborn? I really don't see why we're trying to insist WKU comes along
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Probably because Troy and Huntington are 10 hours away from one another and Troy and Marshall would be in the same division. I can't blame them for not wanting a 10 hour trip for olympic sports multiple times a year. Not like we have an easy airport to just fly into. I mean you can easily fly into Atlanta and be to Troy in 2 and a half hours.