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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If the FAU administration sees this as a way to grow the brand and improve then by all means I will support it. Football facilities are top notch. Baseball just recently announced a 1MM gift to upgrade which was sorely needed to support arguably our most successful sport. Basketball arena needs a lot of help if not a complete demolish and rebuild. Basketball just doesn't move the needle much at all down here. Football and Baseball are far more popular sports, probably due to year round good weather.

I will dearly miss playing MTSU, WKU, and FIU. Those are the teams we have the longest history with.

Do you think that we're not going to keep playing FIU?
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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:08 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:05 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 05:57 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Here's the bottom line.

Florida Atlantic and UAB are the last 4 cusa football champions each winning 2 of the last 4.

They just played and where was that game shown? Stadium streaming because hardly anyone has that channel..... Cbs sports channel isn't even available everywhere. Our cable doesn't have it ...

Meanwhile ball state vs western Michigan was on ESPNU during that time slot ...

Anyone would leave for the AAC from cusa.

Look I hope cusa does well. Keep all 8 and add a few fcs schools. But there is still uncertainty here

If the sun belt adds 4 the conference is dead. In that case I'd be hoping UTEP gets a replacement MW add, 2 teams get Mac adds and maybe fiu is an AAC replacement if 3 teams leave down the road

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The Mountain West isn't going to just magically have a change of heart. If they cared about what could happen to some western Gang of 5 schools they would've added Idaho before they dropped to 1-AA or New Mexico State when the Sun Belt kicked them out. The MWC does not care what happens to UTEP.

Plus, FIU is as f***ed as anyone. The AAC is not adding them. Going to 14 members IS why the AAC is expecting to lose more teams. They made that astronomical numbers of adds to preserve the conference if and when USF, SMU, and Memphis head to the Big XII.
I get that. If only 2 teams left then the AAC would add nobody. But if they lost 3 teams and 2 came from the east, they could add one more east team to get back to 12 . The AAC would be in position to still swipe teams from the sun belt or cusa or even the Mac if they like a buffalo type. Cusa I don't believe has that power left

Again I hope cusa members all get scenarios that fit their schools. But those ripping any of us for taking an AAC invite are just salty. Any school would take that from cusa

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I think there is also a concern that Wichita State could leave too. No doubt most of CUSA would not refuse an AAC invite. It's the notion that the Slum Belch could actually take someone other than Southern Miss from Conference USA that leaves the left behinds in an even bigger bind. They'll probably take Southern Miss and Marshall. ESPN wants to kill the conference because they want the media competition gone. Plus, ESPN was sour at the league over the 2011 lawsuit that unfortunately, none of the left behinds other than UTEP was a part of.

Wichita State is as good as gone from the AAC after this.
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(10-19-2021 06:23 AM)deb025 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:08 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:05 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 05:57 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Here's the bottom line.

Florida Atlantic and UAB are the last 4 cusa football champions each winning 2 of the last 4.

They just played and where was that game shown? Stadium streaming because hardly anyone has that channel..... Cbs sports channel isn't even available everywhere. Our cable doesn't have it ...

Meanwhile ball state vs western Michigan was on ESPNU during that time slot ...

Anyone would leave for the AAC from cusa.

Look I hope cusa does well. Keep all 8 and add a few fcs schools. But there is still uncertainty here

If the sun belt adds 4 the conference is dead. In that case I'd be hoping UTEP gets a replacement MW add, 2 teams get Mac adds and maybe fiu is an AAC replacement if 3 teams leave down the road

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The Mountain West isn't going to just magically have a change of heart. If they cared about what could happen to some western Gang of 5 schools they would've added Idaho before they dropped to 1-AA or New Mexico State when the Sun Belt kicked them out. The MWC does not care what happens to UTEP.

Plus, FIU is as f***ed as anyone. The AAC is not adding them. Going to 14 members IS why the AAC is expecting to lose more teams. They made that astronomical numbers of adds to preserve the conference if and when USF, SMU, and Memphis head to the Big XII.
I get that. If only 2 teams left then the AAC would add nobody. But if they lost 3 teams and 2 came from the east, they could add one more east team to get back to 12 . The AAC would be in position to still swipe teams from the sun belt or cusa or even the Mac if they like a buffalo type. Cusa I don't believe has that power left

Again I hope cusa members all get scenarios that fit their schools. But those ripping any of us for taking an AAC invite are just salty. Any school would take that from cusa

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I think there is also a concern that Wichita State could leave too. No doubt most of CUSA would not refuse an AAC invite. It's the notion that the Slum Belch could actually take someone other than Southern Miss from Conference USA that leaves the left behinds in an even bigger bind. They'll probably take Southern Miss and Marshall. ESPN wants to kill the conference because they want the media competition gone. Plus, ESPN was sour at the league over the 2011 lawsuit that unfortunately, none of the left behinds other than UTEP was a part of.

Wichita State is as good as gone from the AAC after this.

AAC statement did say 14 schools and 14 basketball-playing schools.
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(10-19-2021 06:23 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If the FAU administration sees this as a way to grow the brand and improve then by all means I will support it. Football facilities are top notch. Baseball just recently announced a 1MM gift to upgrade which was sorely needed to support arguably our most successful sport. Basketball arena needs a lot of help if not a complete demolish and rebuild. Basketball just doesn't move the needle much at all down here. Football and Baseball are far more popular sports, probably due to year round good weather.

I will dearly miss playing MTSU, WKU, and FIU. Those are the teams we have the longest history with.

Do you think that we're not going to keep playing FIU?
That's up to fiu. We'd play them out of conference if they wanted to do so

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(10-19-2021 06:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:23 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If the FAU administration sees this as a way to grow the brand and improve then by all means I will support it. Football facilities are top notch. Baseball just recently announced a 1MM gift to upgrade which was sorely needed to support arguably our most successful sport. Basketball arena needs a lot of help if not a complete demolish and rebuild. Basketball just doesn't move the needle much at all down here. Football and Baseball are far more popular sports, probably due to year round good weather.

I will dearly miss playing MTSU, WKU, and FIU. Those are the teams we have the longest history with.

Do you think that we're not going to keep playing FIU?
That's up to fiu. We'd play them out of conference if they wanted to do so

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I think it makes sense.
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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 06:36 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:23 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If the FAU administration sees this as a way to grow the brand and improve then by all means I will support it. Football facilities are top notch. Baseball just recently announced a 1MM gift to upgrade which was sorely needed to support arguably our most successful sport. Basketball arena needs a lot of help if not a complete demolish and rebuild. Basketball just doesn't move the needle much at all down here. Football and Baseball are far more popular sports, probably due to year round good weather.

I will dearly miss playing MTSU, WKU, and FIU. Those are the teams we have the longest history with.

Do you think that we're not going to keep playing FIU?
That's up to fiu. We'd play them out of conference if they wanted to do so

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I think it makes sense.

I would hope they would but its not assured at all. Their administration could be quite salty about being passed over. I believe they advocated for us moving from the SBC to CUSA as they were here a year before us.
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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 06:40 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:36 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:23 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If the FAU administration sees this as a way to grow the brand and improve then by all means I will support it. Football facilities are top notch. Baseball just recently announced a 1MM gift to upgrade which was sorely needed to support arguably our most successful sport. Basketball arena needs a lot of help if not a complete demolish and rebuild. Basketball just doesn't move the needle much at all down here. Football and Baseball are far more popular sports, probably due to year round good weather.

I will dearly miss playing MTSU, WKU, and FIU. Those are the teams we have the longest history with.

Do you think that we're not going to keep playing FIU?
That's up to fiu. We'd play them out of conference if they wanted to do so

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I think it makes sense.

I would hope they would but its not assured at all. Their administration could be quite salty about being passed over. I believe they advocated for us moving from the SBC to CUSA as they were here a year before us.
True but they left us behind in the sun belt to go to cusa. They campaigned for us when a second wave happened for cusa

We'd probably do the same for them if a team or two is needed down the road

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(10-19-2021 06:40 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:36 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:23 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If the FAU administration sees this as a way to grow the brand and improve then by all means I will support it. Football facilities are top notch. Baseball just recently announced a 1MM gift to upgrade which was sorely needed to support arguably our most successful sport. Basketball arena needs a lot of help if not a complete demolish and rebuild. Basketball just doesn't move the needle much at all down here. Football and Baseball are far more popular sports, probably due to year round good weather.

I will dearly miss playing MTSU, WKU, and FIU. Those are the teams we have the longest history with.

Do you think that we're not going to keep playing FIU?
That's up to fiu. We'd play them out of conference if they wanted to do so

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I think it makes sense.

I would hope they would but its not assured at all. Their administration could be quite salty about being passed over. I believe they advocated for us moving from the SBC to CUSA as they were here a year before us.

Yes, that's what I heard. When a spot in the C-USA opened up, they did speak up for us. Had it not happened, this version of historical events would not occur.
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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 12:49 AM)deb025 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 12:34 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Somebody please record the reaction of Memphis and SMU when they step foot into the FAU and UTSA gymnasiums.

Wichita State too.
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Ruston High has better basketball and baseball facilities then these two schools.

I will be shocked if the invite to both of these schools was not conditioned on new basketball facilities. Those simply are not up to AAC standards. Honestly, they weren't up to CUSA standards either, but Judy....
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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 07:05 AM)Artifice Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 12:49 AM)deb025 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 12:34 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Somebody please record the reaction of Memphis and SMU when they step foot into the FAU and UTSA gymnasiums.

Wichita State too.
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Ruston High has better basketball and baseball facilities then these two schools.

I will be shocked if the invite to both of these schools was not conditioned on new basketball facilities. Those simply are not up to AAC standards. Honestly, they weren't up to CUSA standards either, but Judy....

Judy wasn't the commissioner when we joined C-USA.
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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 07:05 AM)Artifice Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 12:49 AM)deb025 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 12:34 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Somebody please record the reaction of Memphis and SMU when they step foot into the FAU and UTSA gymnasiums.

Wichita State too.
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Ruston High has better basketball and baseball facilities then these two schools.

I will be shocked if the invite to both of these schools was not conditioned on new basketball facilities. Those simply are not up to AAC standards. Honestly, they weren't up to CUSA standards either, but Judy....

Yeah good luck with that. North Texas was also supposed to start a baseball team and we know how that turned out. CUSA leadership failed this conference miserably. They did not hold any school accountable.
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(10-18-2021 09:39 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:26 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:17 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:15 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I’d pay 5 mil to get away from Judy and not to have to go to Murfreesboro or Ruston.

Well, it looks you’re leaving Judy for another Judy with a pen…is.

Six schools looks like a panic move rather than thinking long term.

I don't know what you call it but it's basically CUSA 3.5. If CUSA can keep USM and Marshall from leaving, invite Texas St and Liberty and get back to 10.

CUSA has options UMASS, UCONN, Stoney Brook, JMU, Liberty,WICHITA St, VCU & New Mexico St.

0% chance VCU leaves the A-10 as a non-football school for any iteration of C-USA past or present. Being left out in the cold by the Metro in the 90’s when C-USA formed pretty much guaranteed that. Plus there is pretty much nothing in it for VCU. We have a much better set up catered to basketball schools in the A-10 with better TV coverage, comparable revenue even without football and 75% of the NCAA credits we earn going directly to us. C-USA and VCU’s interests don’t really align when it comes to collegiate Athletics.
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(10-19-2021 06:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:23 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 06:20 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If the FAU administration sees this as a way to grow the brand and improve then by all means I will support it. Football facilities are top notch. Baseball just recently announced a 1MM gift to upgrade which was sorely needed to support arguably our most successful sport. Basketball arena needs a lot of help if not a complete demolish and rebuild. Basketball just doesn't move the needle much at all down here. Football and Baseball are far more popular sports, probably due to year round good weather.

I will dearly miss playing MTSU, WKU, and FIU. Those are the teams we have the longest history with.

Do you think that we're not going to keep playing FIU?
That's up to fiu. We'd play them out of conference if they wanted to do so

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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 07:20 AM)VCUfan Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:39 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:26 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:17 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:15 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I’d pay 5 mil to get away from Judy and not to have to go to Murfreesboro or Ruston.

Well, it looks you’re leaving Judy for another Judy with a pen…is.

Six schools looks like a panic move rather than thinking long term.

I don't know what you call it but it's basically CUSA 3.5. If CUSA can keep USM and Marshall from leaving, invite Texas St and Liberty and get back to 10.

CUSA has options UMASS, UCONN, Stoney Brook, JMU, Liberty,WICHITA St, VCU & New Mexico St.

0% chance VCU leaves the A-10 as a non-football school for any iteration of C-USA past or present. Being left out in the cold by the Metro in the 90’s when C-USA formed pretty much guaranteed that. Plus there is pretty much nothing in it for VCU. We have a much better set up catered to basketball schools in the A-10 with better TV coverage, comparable revenue even without football and 75% of the NCAA credits we earn going directly to us. C-USA and VCU’s interests don’t really align when it comes to collegiate Athletics.

I would completely disregard that comment. It was made by an arrogant fan of Charlotte, who does not represent the better fans of Charlotte, to post garbage about the remaining members of the league.
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(10-19-2021 07:30 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 07:20 AM)VCUfan Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:39 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:26 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 09:17 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Well, it looks you’re leaving Judy for another Judy with a pen…is.

Six schools looks like a panic move rather than thinking long term.

I don't know what you call it but it's basically CUSA 3.5. If CUSA can keep USM and Marshall from leaving, invite Texas St and Liberty and get back to 10.

CUSA has options UMASS, UCONN, Stoney Brook, JMU, Liberty,WICHITA St, VCU & New Mexico St.

0% chance VCU leaves the A-10 as a non-football school for any iteration of C-USA past or present. Being left out in the cold by the Metro in the 90’s when C-USA formed pretty much guaranteed that. Plus there is pretty much nothing in it for VCU. We have a much better set up catered to basketball schools in the A-10 with better TV coverage, comparable revenue even without football and 75% of the NCAA credits we earn going directly to us. C-USA and VCU’s interests don’t really align when it comes to collegiate Athletics.

I would completely disregard that comment. It was made by an arrogant fan of Charlotte, who does not represent the better fans of Charlotte, to post garbage about the remaining members of the league.

Gotcha. Appreciate the context!
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(10-19-2021 12:49 AM)deb025 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 12:34 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Somebody please record the reaction of Memphis and SMU when they step foot into the FAU and UTSA gymnasiums.

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Ruston High has better basketball and baseball facilities then these two schools.

Hey, don't knock it! I had my Master's graduation ceremony here in the Summer of 2000.
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Overnight cusa is going to lose some of its worst basketball and football programs. All cusa needs is appy state, liberty, coastal and maybe Louisiana and its much stronger than it is today. But marshall, USM, going to the belt makes it stronger too. In amy case the pecking order assuming marshall and usm to sunbelt is now

1. MWC





2. AAC
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4. MAC




5. Cusa (minus marshall and USM, maybe others.
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I wonder if the tune changes from the two to four of the six teams rumored that don't get into the AAC. I don't think all six that are under consideration get in until Memphis and/or SMU leave.

UAB is the only school I'd have a 95% confidence level of moving to the AAC.
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(10-19-2021 09:00 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I wonder if the tune changes from the two to four of the six teams rumored that don't get into the AAC. I don't think all six that are under consideration get in until Memphis and/or SMU leave.

UAB is the only school I'd have a 95% confidence level of moving to the AAC.
This would only be if Thamel and others who are reputable are wrong about applications coming this week. Applications are a formality and mean it's already done. No school will apply and get turned down. And no conference will send invites officially and get turned down

It make a lot of sense to go to 14 if you think 2 will be lost. You get your pick of teams instead of the mountain west taking some or the sun belt.

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RE: Teams leaving CUSA
(10-19-2021 01:17 AM)deb025 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:10 AM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 12:02 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  If Marshall, USM, Tech, UTEP, WKU, and ODU core of the conference stays in tact this could turn into a net positive

I feel bad for Dawgxas...

The Sunbelt are eyeing some of the remaining CUSA teams... and that may not be good....

Dawgxas has always been a soldier.

I feel worse for the original AAC teams. They are taking most of our deadweight.

The AAC just added 4 of the top 5 football teams in C-USA so far this year.
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