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RE: Aresco: "bringing in lesser schools and raising their profile"
(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.
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(10-15-2021 09:31 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  If it really goes down like this I think they will effectively run off Wichita St.

Precisely. They might lose SMU, as well.

I'm hoping that the reporter either misquoted or misinterpreted Aresco's statement, but there hasn't been a clarification from his office yet.
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(10-15-2021 10:31 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 09:31 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  If it really goes down like this I think they will effectively run off Wichita St.

Precisely. They might lose SMU, as well.

I'm hoping that the reporter either misquoted or misinterpreted Aresco's statement, but there hasn't been a clarification from his office yet.

you are the one misquoting him...
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(10-15-2021 10:26 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.

Gentlemen - I quoted the story accurately, but have re-read it, and am adding a clarifying note, because the sentence about adding "lesser programs" was the reporter's words, not Aresco's words.
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(10-15-2021 08:27 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 07:31 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Don't we already have a thread on this one Jed?

Seriously.

In the unlikely event that the "expansion candidates" thread doesnt discuss this student journalist's botching of what Aresco said* there is a thread on the realignment board and also on several G4 boards (I guess they already consider themselves lesser teams)


*Aresco never used the words "lesser teams." The story, the headline, and any clown using them in a thread title ran too far with a single remark out of many at conference basketball media days.

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THIS POINT. I HAVE ADDED AN EXPLANATORY NOTE TO THE O.P. MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THESE WORDS WERE THE REPORTERS INTERPRETATION OF WHAT HE THOUGHT ARESCO "BELIEVES."
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(10-15-2021 10:26 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.

A NOTE HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE O.P., CLARIFYING THAT THE SENTENCE WITH THE WORDS "LESSER PROGRAMS" WAS WRITTEN BY THE REPORTER WHO WROTE THE ARTICLE, AND WAS NOT A DIRECT WORD-FOR-WORD QUOTATION OF ANYTHING THAT ARESCO SAID.
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RE: Aresco: "bringing in lesser schools and raising their profile"
(10-15-2021 10:32 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 10:26 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.

Gentlemen - I quoted the story accurately, but have re-read it, and am adding a clarifying note, because the sentence about adding "lesser programs" was the reporter's words, not Aresco's words.

So fix the thread title already.
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(10-15-2021 09:36 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Ya, I don't understand the tough criticism of Aresco. I don't think anyone else could have changed the outcome. Money has a way of changing people's attitudes at the blink of an eye. The B12 dangled that golden carrot, while they still had it, and the 3 AAC teams simply couldn't resist.

The reality of the football landscape is what it is... the teams Aresco went after were sound logical choices, but he just couldn't offer them P5 money, so those teams decided to wait for the next round of invitations, hoping.

So either the AAC does nothing, or it looks to the future and adds teams that weren't on the radar yet but may be later. It's was a tough order, and Aresco probably deserves kudos for trying to make work instead of bailing himself.

When all is said and done, we will do EXACTLY what the Big East did in the last round of realignment that ran from 2011 to 2013. We will largely take the top football schools from the other eastern G5’s. Every school we took during that period had a high performing football program at the time the invite was extended with the exception of 2 schools—Memphis and Tulane. Tulane offered AAU level academics, a well known brand, and a large market. Memphis brought an elite level basketball program and a large market.

In the end, I’d say the last round of realignment worked out well for the AAC. That round largely emphasized football performance, market, academics, and a desire to be upwardly mobile (ie—strong financial commitment to revenue sports). That worked out pretty well for the league so I little reason to alter that thinking in this round.

UAB
Buffalo
AppSt
Marshall or LaTech (if LatTech commits to raise the budget).

If we need a choice in the west to replace Houston and keep Navy happy—then things get tougher. I believe we avoid the newbie start ups—so no UTSA or Texas St. If LaTech won’t commit to increase its budget—Rice is a possibility. If Rice won’t commit to spend at the AAC level—then your options are down to ULL or N Texas. Worst case we let Navy see that none of the western options will spend at a reasonable level and Navy will ok moving UAB west and sign off on Marshall as #4.

But in the end—at least three of the four invites will be to schools with strong high performing football programs (perhaps even all 4 will be high performing football programs). In the end—likely half or more of the new invites will be from a large market. In the end half or more of the new invites will be academically ranked higher than the three that are leaving.
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(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.

Gentlemen - I quoted the story accurately, but have re-read it, and am adding a clarifying note, because the sentence about adding "lesser programs" was the reporter's words, not Aresco's words.

So fix the thread title already.

AYE, AYE! WILL DO. ...DONE!
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(10-15-2021 10:47 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
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(10-15-2021 10:32 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 10:26 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.

Gentlemen - I quoted the story accurately, but have re-read it, and am adding a clarifying note, because the sentence about adding "lesser programs" was the reporter's words, not Aresco's words.

So fix the thread title already.

AYE, AYE! WILL DO. ...DONE!

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(10-15-2021 10:32 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 10:26 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.

Gentlemen - I quoted the story accurately, but have re-read it, and am adding a clarifying note, because the sentence about adding "lesser programs" was the reporter's words, not Aresco's words.

The reporter needed to provide a quote from Aresco supporting that statement. Surprised Aresco hasn't requested the statement to be retracted.
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(10-15-2021 11:04 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 10:32 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 10:26 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 09:48 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Am I taking crazy pills here?

ARESCO. NEVER. SAID. LESSER. TEAMS.

You’re correct sir. He did not say that.

Gentlemen - I quoted the story accurately, but have re-read it, and am adding a clarifying note, because the sentence about adding "lesser programs" was the reporter's words, not Aresco's words.

The reporter needed to provide a quote from Aresco supporting that statement. Surprised Aresco hasn't requested the statement to be retracted.

It’s in a student newspaper. No one other than a couple of dozen people on this site know or care.
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RE: Aresco: "elevating programs that may not have been at the level they’re at now"
I'll help out here.

Here is the Youtube link to the entire 18 minute 50 second Aresco press availability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYDSM1n4n0

The sentence that the student journalist completely misdirected to "lesser teams" comes in an answer to Wichita radio at about the 10:10 mark.

Q: Yeah, Commissioner early on in the process it seemed like the narrative for the American in conference realignment was going to be being very offensive in the situation. Now it seems like it's more of a defensive approach with three schools planning to leave for the Big12. How do you guys kind of move forward from here and how did it change from being to where you guys might be the poacher to and now you're the poached looking to make up for the loss of three schools?
Aresco: Well, Mason, first of all I hate to use that word "poached." Period. It's not really what's going on. Schools express interest in joining particular conferences. You know, Conferences are voluntary organizations, we have to remember that. We have to remember that if you pay your exit fee and you stay a particular amount of time, and that's pretty much true of every conference, you can leave. You can determine your fate and how you want to go about things. And so you have to remember that. You also have to remember we can't take this personally. It's the nature of our business. Schools want to improve themselves. Conferences have changed dramatically. Realignment has been going on for a long time. I don't particularly like it. I don't think a lot of people like it. It's tough on everyone.
I wouldn't say that our position is defensive at all. I think we obviously have got some schools that are leaving; they have their reasons for leaving. We have had an outstanding relationship with those schools. We wish them well. They've done a great job for us. And we have done a great job for them. I think what's sometimes overlooked is what this conference has done for schools. What the American Athletic Conference has done in elevating programs that may not have been at the level they're at now. By really I think intelligent scheduling and with the great support of ESPN and I can't stress that enough how much ESPN has supported us and what their exposure and their promotion has meant for this conference. So these schools have benefitted enormously and now a few of them are looking for another opportunity and that's fine. We would have liked to have had them stay.
In terms of the conference, our goals and vision have not changed and I think once we reconstitute I think we're going to continue, in fact I have no doubt we're going to continue our approach and try to become a P6 conference an Autonomy 6 conference. I think in view of what's happened around college athletics in view of what's happened in the Big12, I think we have a claim to make as we continue to compete at the highest levels.

This response goes on another 30-60 seconds (another don't take it personally, unfortunate the Big 12 events in 2016 were so public, but we stayed cohesive then and we'll stay cohesive now, and more) but that's the part relevant to the student journalists' pull.

I just don't see how you take that response at length, and turn it into "AAC gonna lower its sights and take 'lesser schools' and trust they'll elevate them."
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