I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

Perplexed why Temple wasn’t in on the discussion unless that was because the AD was just hired a week or two ago.

(10-19-2021 04:08 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Perplexed why Temple wasn’t in on the discussion unless that was because the AD was just hired a week or two ago.

I’m sure ALL ADs were part of discussion but I found interesting who the four where that led the discussion

(10-19-2021 04:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

They really did a horrible job, in my view.

(10-19-2021 04:10 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

They really did a horrible job, in my view.

As a matter of strategy the AAC won the day. Go AAC!!

(10-19-2021 04:10 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

They really did a horrible job, in my view.

Yes we know.

#1 Kept the highest tv payment in a nonP league for all remaining members
#2 Kept the best exposure for any nonP league.

Both of those were the major points and they hit them both.

I still remember all the nay sayers saying we would be lucky to get 2 million.

(10-19-2021 04:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

What I want to know is why Buffalo is not here already... They checked off more boxes than any other new potential invite... Time for Temple to join the B1G!!!

(10-19-2021 04:10 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

They really did a horrible job, in my view.

They were able to keep the 7MM payout- that equals a WIN

(10-19-2021 04:17 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  They were able to keep the 7MM payout- that equals a WIN

I keep seeing that claim repeated but who is the source of that information?

(10-19-2021 04:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:17 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  They were able to keep the 7MM payout- that equals a WIN

I keep seeing that claim repeated but who is the source of that information?

Same article from Pete Thamel


https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-the-aac...15069.html

Gracias

(10-19-2021 04:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:10 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

They really did a horrible job, in my view.

Yes we know.

#1 Kept the highest tv payment in a nonP league for all remaining members
#2 Kept the best exposure for any nonP league.

Both of those were the major points and they hit them both.

I still remember all the nay sayers saying we would be lucky to get 2 million.

I think Aresco and the 8 did about the best they could have done given the ****** hand they were dealt.

It may not be over yet - they may eventually go on to 16 too? I don't know.

They clearly had a plan B (after plan A failed) and executed it. Only time will tell if this was the way to go but remember - Aresco and the boys put together a conference that got 3 teams invited to the B12. No other conferences got raided by the P5. Rutgers went to the B1G as well awhile back.

Sure, this sucks for the 8 but there is nothing to do about it except get kicked down a couple of notches and start the process over again...

It is what it is.

(10-19-2021 04:17 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:10 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I found it interesting that Thamel’s article stated that the AAC Expansion Committee was made up of the AD’s from USF,SMU,Memphis and Navy.

These are the four schools that most have mentioned about eventually leaving for Big12 or going independent. So I found it interesting.

Also SMU must have given the go ahead to add the Texas schools including North Texas and USF must have also been ok with the addition of FAU.

I am sure that ECU must had also been consulted about Charlotte coming in.

So I guess no one can say that an AAC school blocked their entrance because they were from same state.

They really did a horrible job, in my view.

They were able to keep the 7MM payout- that equals a WIN

Kept the 7 million dollar payment for the remaining schools, will receive entrance fees for 6 new schools, will receive at least 30 million dollars in exit fees, neutered the conference the AAC would constantly be compared too, pulled a checkmate move on the MWC that was trying to get into the Texas central time zones, and sent a message to those that hitched their wagons to Boise that there is no room at the inn if and when Boise leaves for the B-12 after Texas and OU officially join the SEC. I'd say it is a pretty good win for the AAC after CSU and AF walked with Boise and SDSU at the end of their talks.

Are we sure the payout didn’t remain the same due to a combo of disbursements of exit fees from Cincy et al. + reduced payouts for incoming members?

(10-19-2021 05:04 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Are we sure the payout didn’t remain the same due to a combo of disbursements of exit fees from Cincy et al. + reduced payouts for incoming members?

Yes, we are sure. This is all TV money. Exit fees not even negotiated yet.

(10-19-2021 04:34 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I think Aresco and the 8 did about the best they could have done given the ****** hand they were dealt.

The “best they could have done”, would’ve been to persuade the Mouse to put up the $$$ needed to bring in Boise/etc. and establish a clear, undisputed best-of-the-rest conference. That’s not pie-in-the-sky. It’s an ambitious but realistic agenda that didn’t happen.

Quote:They clearly had a plan B (after plan A failed) and executed it.

Did they, really? Or was plan B just a dog’s-lunch that got thrown together minute-by-minute, according to who was interested?

Quote:Only time will tell if this was the way to go but remember - Aresco and the boys put together a conference that got 3 teams invited to the B12. No other conferences got raided by the P5. Rutgers went to the B1G as well awhile back.

Point taken. The Aresco-bashers have never impressed me and I’m willing to see how this goes. But that doesn’t mean we have to pretend that Plan B is better than Plan A, when it’s obviously worse.

(10-19-2021 05:11 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 04:34 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I think Aresco and the 8 did about the best they could have done given the ****** hand they were dealt.

The “best they could have done”, would’ve been to persuade the Mouse to put up the $$$ needed to bring in Boise/etc. and establish a clear, undisputed best-of-the-rest conference. That’s not pie-in-the-sky. It’s an ambitious but realistic agenda that didn’t happen.

Quote:They clearly had a plan B (after plan A failed) and executed it.

Did they, really? Or was plan B just a dog’s-lunch that got thrown together minute-by-minute, according to who was interested?

Quote:Only time will tell if this was the way to go but remember - Aresco and the boys put together a conference that got 3 teams invited to the B12. No other conferences got raided by the P5. Rutgers went to the B1G as well awhile back.

Point taken. The Aresco-bashers have never impressed me and I’m willing to see how this goes. But that doesn’t mean we have to pretend that Plan B is better than Plan A, when it’s obviously worse.

Oh yes, B is worse than A - that's a given BUT I do think that Plan B was already in place and that they went for 'market' teams counting on the fact that the vastly increased exposure will help half of these teams grow into something with better recruiting and increased private donations.

The TV money ain't really **** one way or the other when the big boys are getting 30-40 million each. I mean, does 5M or 7M really move that needle?

To be honest - with the $$$ and other advantages the P5 schools have they should NEVER lost a fb game to any G5 school. Ever. Yet they do, lol.

So, yes the AAC has been knocked down a couple of notches but maybe not off it's perch as #6.

Given the time zone, population distribution (way more people live in Eastern / Central that Pacific / Mountain), TV exposure, and still this year and next before the three amigos hit the road - maybe 3 of the six adds get good, maybe 3 of the remaining 8 get better....

It's not ideal and until it happens IT HASN'T but fukk - it's what we've got.

(10-19-2021 05:05 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-19-2021 05:04 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Are we sure the payout didn’t remain the same due to a combo of disbursements of exit fees from Cincy et al. + reduced payouts for incoming members?

Yes, we are sure. This is all TV money. Exit fees not even negotiated yet.

What we are not sure of is who the remaining teams will be.

Hint three of the four on the committee aren't. The other one was the motivation behind the picks and it's not hard to tell. Meanwhile Tulsa is now isolated and alone has no way to MWC. Temple and ECU could go sunbelt and MAC but it's a lateral move for less money. So really only one school left had to be happy, a big texas presence, carolina, alabama and another florida school are nice. FIU will replace USF and we will pull UConn back as football only to keep 12 and 10 for basketball, once SMU, Tulane, Memphis and USF get the deal.

Welcome to the new American.