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(10-19-2021 02:31 AM)VCE Wrote:  I won’t donate a dollar if GU votes to add a bottom feeder like the Bonnies. Crap market, crap school, crap bball. We are the Big East and we don’t need to play RPI games like the A10, MWC or AAC.

I'm with you, adding 2 more DePauls is asinine. That doesn't make us any more TV money which is more than any ncaa credits. Adding a Saint Louis would be closer to what he proposes with a program that fits our culture, is in a large new market and bridges the gap between Creighton and the rest if the conference. I'd love for Duquesne to be in the conference but not until they fully commit to basketball and make a leap in the A-10.
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10-19-2021 04:48 AM
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From a personal and Northeast perspective I want Temple.

Based on current men's basketball performance I want Dayton.
10-19-2021 04:58 AM
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(10-19-2021 02:47 AM)Realignment Wrote:  Saint Louis is the add.

Yeah, while I hear today’s SLU announcement is about a venue or other campaign, I won’t be surprised if it’s (finally) this about the Big East.
10-19-2021 05:25 AM
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Whether it's Gonzaga or an alternative member, I'm fully convinced by 2025 the Big East is at 12 members. It sounds like there is a full court press between the conference, Gonzaga and Fox to try and get something done. However, SLU has made a long-term financial commitment to upgrading athletics, which is what today's later announcement will reveal. One way or another, the league will expand IMO.

As previously shared, everything has a value. The round robin, which has provided value through right now, is not as valuable anymore as other power conferences have shifted to larger leagues and formats. I would argue it was a huge boost for Butler, Creighton and Xavier to assimilate into the league, and help elevate them by perception on a more national scale.
10-19-2021 07:16 AM
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(10-19-2021 07:16 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Whether it's Gonzaga or an alternative member, I'm fully convinced by 2025 the Big East is at 12 members. It sounds like there is a full court press between the conference, Gonzaga and Fox to try and get something done. However, SLU has made a long-term financial commitment to upgrading athletics, which is what today's later announcement will reveal. One way or another, the league will expand IMO.

The Big East doesn't need to expand and no one is leaving. More teams, more long term instability.
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(10-19-2021 02:09 AM)JSchmack Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:46 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I wonder. This new American is going to be horrible in basketball. Tulane, ECU and South Florida were already bad. But to that they are adding horrible UTSA, FAU and Charlotte. North Texas is not that good either. Rice has been mediocre but can jump up. Only UAB is decent.

Given that, I feel Memphis, Temple, SMU, Tulsa and Wichita State may get very antsy about hoops in the next few years.

Could Temple be asking about the Big East? The three schools west of the Mississippi (Wichita State, Tulsa, SMU) I can see talking to the MWC. If the ESPN payments to the AAC schools drop and they become a 1 1/2 bid conference, these things may come to pass.

Long winded way of saying, the Big East and Temple may become the next dance item.

The Big East has had a long-standing tradition of "You got our back and we got yours"

Georgetown, Villanova, Seton Hall, St. John's and Providence will vote as one group against any school from DC, Philly, the NY/NJ metro area, or New England.

Xavier and DePaul will join them to keep out Dayton or Loyola (or Valpo)

There is no "veto-power" but it's a collective unspoken understanding.

Except when the Big East accepted Rutgers. Seton Hall had no objection?
10-19-2021 05:22 PM
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(10-19-2021 05:22 PM)schmolik Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 02:09 AM)JSchmack Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:46 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I wonder. This new American is going to be horrible in basketball. Tulane, ECU and South Florida were already bad. But to that they are adding horrible UTSA, FAU and Charlotte. North Texas is not that good either. Rice has been mediocre but can jump up. Only UAB is decent.

Given that, I feel Memphis, Temple, SMU, Tulsa and Wichita State may get very antsy about hoops in the next few years.

Could Temple be asking about the Big East? The three schools west of the Mississippi (Wichita State, Tulsa, SMU) I can see talking to the MWC. If the ESPN payments to the AAC schools drop and they become a 1 1/2 bid conference, these things may come to pass.

Long winded way of saying, the Big East and Temple may become the next dance item.

The Big East has had a long-standing tradition of "You got our back and we got yours"

Georgetown, Villanova, Seton Hall, St. John's and Providence will vote as one group against any school from DC, Philly, the NY/NJ metro area, or New England.

Xavier and DePaul will join them to keep out Dayton or Loyola (or Valpo)

There is no "veto-power" but it's a collective unspoken understanding.

Except when the Big East accepted Rutgers. Seton Hall had no objection?

Granted, that happened in the days before extreme home turf protection and the need for new markets (both for TV and recruiting) became driving forces in conference decisions. Who might have been allowed into a conference 30/40/50/100 years ago has little bearing on who would be admitted now.
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