(10-13-2021 02:37 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 01:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 01:07 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 12:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 12:09 PM)slycat Wrote:  Or you just expand by 4-6 now and if you lose some you have the teams you wanted and don't have to worry about luring them anymore.

I view SBC expansion the same way. Add 4 now and if you lose UL and App then you don't have to worry about expanding again without two of your more marketable teams.

Depends on how much each addition dilutes media revenue. If ESPN would pay as much per school for 12 as 10 then 12 makes more sense, and who knows depending on how much they care about having additional ESPN+ content 12 might be just as valuable if not more than 10.

True. I think 10 has been good for the SBC and 14 is too many. I hope they add USM plus one and only add four if they are smart adds and not just two more for the sake of two more.

I agree, I think the Sun-Belt staying at 10 was an extremely savvy move, while C-USA overextended and over added. ECU actually has a level of blame to take for C-USA's demise though. ECU and specifically Terry Holland was a massive proponent of expanding the league larger than 12 to add more regional games and cut down on crossover games. ODU most like would not be in C-USA if it wasn't for Terry Holland's pushing. Of course ECU then got out of the league going past 12 turned out to be a very foolish move.

I gotta disagree on that. CUSA would still be at risk of losing a lot of schools no matter if they are at 12 or 14. Going to 14 might actually save them as it will likely give them enough core to make it feasible to rebuild.

They'd be at risk sure, but going to 14 specifically with so many of the completely unestablished "market" schools is one of the big reasons they got passed by the Sun-Belt. The issue for C-USA isn't that they are going to lose teams to the AAC or the MWC (that's just going down the food chain), it's that they got passed on the food chain and might lose them to a league they raided less than a decade ago. This letter wouldn't exist if Sun-Belt schools were still clamoring to be in C-USA. Part of the reason they went to 14 was ECU. ECU was by far the biggest name left in the league at that time and had for years been complaining about the travel. Holland had proposed going to 16 for years to all but eliminate crossover games. ODU specifically was Holland's pet project and he pushed crazy hard for them to want to join and for C-USA to accept them. Obviously there's more to it than just ECU that has caused C-USA's failure, but trying to appease ECU greatly harmed C-USA.

(10-13-2021 01:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 01:07 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 12:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 12:09 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

Or you just expand by 4-6 now and if you lose some you have the teams you wanted and don't have to worry about luring them anymore.

I view SBC expansion the same way. Add 4 now and if you lose UL and App then you don't have to worry about expanding again without two of your more marketable teams.

Depends on how much each addition dilutes media revenue. If ESPN would pay as much per school for 12 as 10 then 12 makes more sense, and who knows depending on how much they care about having additional ESPN+ content 12 might be just as valuable if not more than 10.

True. I think 10 has been good for the SBC and 14 is too many. I hope they add USM plus one and only add four if they are smart adds and not just two more for the sake of two more.

I agree, I think the Sun-Belt staying at 10 was an extremely savvy move, while C-USA overextended and over added. ECU actually has a level of blame to take for C-USA's demise though. ECU and specifically Terry Holland was a massive proponent of expanding the league larger than 12 to add more regional games and cut down on crossover games. ODU most like would not be in C-USA if it wasn't for Terry Holland's pushing. Of course ECU then got out of the league going past 12 turned out to be a very foolish move.

CUSA going to 14 is not what killed them, its that the 14 members they have dont produce. no rivalries, no consistent success, no excitement. The Sun Belt could actually go to 14 and be in just as good of shape as with 10 members, IF the right adds are made.