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(10-13-2021 09:19 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://www.extrapointsmb.com/conference...orst-time/

A lot of people question this guy. I think he is great. He presents his case based on all the available information available, does not confirm anything as a done deal until it's done. I think he's good. I also appreciate that he has responded more than once to questions I've had. And I think it adds some credibility that his stories have been recommended by multiple more well known reporters.

FWIW, he was the one he broke the story on Austin Peay to the ASUN, Athens other ASUN moves earlier this year, and the WAC moves this year.

EDIT: I'll add that he's right about the Sun Belt rejecting this idea. Current SB schools were rejected by C-USA, and the burned bridges will no doubt factor into the SB schools' decision to say no. The way he put it is that schools like App and Louisiana will tell C-USA to eat... poop.
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His podcast on this matter is great. I highly recommend listening to the latest episode of "Going for Two"

He nails the fact how CUSA is now asking App ST, Louisiana, etc to come together for the greater good after treating them like crap for year.
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RE: Matt Brown: CUSA's Regional Realignment is Good Idea...
SBC Commissioner has rejected the idea, that's to be expected. The SBC ADs and Presidents haven't as far as I know.....I also know for a fact the App St AD has been working on this for a while now so I think it's safe to say that App St is on board with this.
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(10-13-2021 09:31 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 09:19 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://www.extrapointsmb.com/conference...orst-time/

A lot of people question this guy. I think he is great. He presents his case based on all the available information available, does not confirm anything as a done deal until it's done. I think he's good. I also appreciate that he has responded more than once to questions I've had. And I think it adds some credibility that his stories have been recommended by multiple more well known reporters.

FWIW, he was the one he broke the story on Austin Peay to the ASUN, Athens other ASUN moves earlier this year, and the WAC moves this year.

EDIT: I'll add that he's right about the Sun Belt rejecting this idea. Current SB schools were rejected by C-USA, and the burned bridges will no doubt factor into the SB schools' decision to say no. The way he put it is that schools like App and Louisiana will tell C-USA to eat... poop.

. . .. and Die. Eat poop and Die.
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(10-13-2021 10:30 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  SBC Commissioner has rejected the idea, that's to be expected. The SBC ADs and Presidents haven't as far as I know.....I also know for a fact the App St AD has been working on this for a while now so I think it's safe to say that App St is on board with this.

If Gill rejected it's because he was directed to or if not, the ADs/Presidents will follow suit
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(10-13-2021 10:30 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  SBC Commissioner has rejected the idea, that's to be expected. The SBC ADs and Presidents haven't as far as I know.....I also know for a fact the App St AD has been working on this for a while now so I think it's safe to say that App St is on board with this.

Gill can’t reject anything without president’s approval. The question has never been App. It’s been everyone else, and the votes just aren’t there

No reason for us to work with CUSA after being treated like garbage by them for years
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I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.
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(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.
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(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.
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(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

I see it differently . . . The AAC has marketed itself as a P6, something “loftier” than the G5, but not quite a P5 . . . any merger with a G5 conference (CUSA) and that goes right out the window. I get why CUSA wants the merger, but the AAC loses more here.

It might be riskier, but based on how they’ve branded themselves, it would be better for them to poach whomever they can, and continue selling themselves as this “better” overall product (even if in the end it would be diluted).

They can afford a few more losses . . . the MW has closed their door to them, but if they can poach the best of CUSA and the best of the Belt (if necessary), they can maintain their illusion. . . .
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(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

Or you just expand by 4-6 now and if you lose some you have the teams you wanted and don't have to worry about luring them anymore.

I view SBC expansion the same way. Add 4 now and if you lose UL and App then you don't have to worry about expanding again without two of your more marketable teams.
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(10-13-2021 12:09 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

Or you just expand by 4-6 now and if you lose some you have the teams you wanted and don't have to worry about luring them anymore.

I view SBC expansion the same way. Add 4 now and if you lose UL and App then you don't have to worry about expanding again without two of your more marketable teams.

Depends on how much each addition dilutes media revenue. If ESPN would pay as much per school for 12 as 10 then 12 makes more sense, and who knows depending on how much they care about having additional ESPN+ content 12 might be just as valuable if not more than 10.
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Regional realignment makes sense. Pride and dollar signs will be the reasons it never happens.
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(10-13-2021 12:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:09 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

Or you just expand by 4-6 now and if you lose some you have the teams you wanted and don't have to worry about luring them anymore.

I view SBC expansion the same way. Add 4 now and if you lose UL and App then you don't have to worry about expanding again without two of your more marketable teams.

Depends on how much each addition dilutes media revenue. If ESPN would pay as much per school for 12 as 10 then 12 makes more sense, and who knows depending on how much they care about having additional ESPN+ content 12 might be just as valuable if not more than 10.

True. I think 10 has been good for the SBC and 14 is too many. I hope they add USM plus one and only add four if they are smart adds and not just two more for the sake of two more.
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(10-13-2021 01:07 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:09 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

Or you just expand by 4-6 now and if you lose some you have the teams you wanted and don't have to worry about luring them anymore.

I view SBC expansion the same way. Add 4 now and if you lose UL and App then you don't have to worry about expanding again without two of your more marketable teams.

Depends on how much each addition dilutes media revenue. If ESPN would pay as much per school for 12 as 10 then 12 makes more sense, and who knows depending on how much they care about having additional ESPN+ content 12 might be just as valuable if not more than 10.

True. I think 10 has been good for the SBC and 14 is too many. I hope they add USM plus one and only add four if they are smart adds and not just two more for the sake of two more.

I agree, I think the Sun-Belt staying at 10 was an extremely savvy move, while C-USA overextended and over added. ECU actually has a level of blame to take for C-USA's demise though. ECU and specifically Terry Holland was a massive proponent of expanding the league larger than 12 to add more regional games and cut down on crossover games. ODU most like would not be in C-USA if it wasn't for Terry Holland's pushing. Of course ECU then got out of the league going past 12 turned out to be a very foolish move.
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(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

ECU would have appeal to the programs mentioned. Tulsa, Tulane, and UTSA would be less appealing. The West teams would appeal to the West. The East teams would appeal to the East. Is the allure of ECU enough to get Marshall and ODU to sign on to play against those western teams? Especially if C-USA loses Texas teams to the MWC in the meantime. Not a guarantee in my opinion.
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(10-13-2021 01:22 PM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

ECU would have appeal to the programs mentioned. Tulsa, Tulane, and UTSA would be less appealing. The West teams would appeal to the West. The East teams would appeal to the East. Is the allure of ECU enough to get Marshall and ODU to sign on to play against those western teams? Especially if C-USA loses Texas teams to the MWC in the meantime. Not a guarantee in my opinion.

Actually would make it even more likely, because the Texas team they are basically almost certain to not lose is the one they need to lose the most, UTEP. C-USA might be forced or need to add NMSU in that situation to fill a spot and as a UTEP travel partner, making things even worse. There's a huge difference between Tulsa/Tulane/UTSA (actually suspect it's gonna be Rice if a Texas team is added) west and UTEP west. ECU football would be insanely appealing, and Temple basketball would be underrated in their appeal to ODU/Marshall/Charlotte. Like I said your school WKU would love a basketball league with Temple/ODU/Charlotte/UAB/Tulsa/Marshall. That's a still interesting basketball league that could easily be a multi bid league.
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(10-13-2021 11:24 AM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:08 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I just don’t see why the AAC would break itself apart to full on realign with the CUSA. The bottom half just doesn’t make sense. Just take what teams you want and move along. Same with the SBC if they want App or Louisiana.

I think the AAC is potentially playing a dangerous game. If they lose 2-3 of Memphis, SMU, and USF in the next wave (once OU/UT go to the SEC officially) and have only backfilled with UAB and one other (say UTSA) then I don't know that they will be in a position to poach much of anyone.

They will be spread somewhat thin from Philly to Tulsa and San Antonio. They won't have some massive performance gap between their remainder and the rest of the G5. Their media deal will likely be downgraded again. The only option left that makes sense is to regionalize with other programs from C-USA/SBC. They can try to add and make a best of what's left league, but it is going to take a real surge in performance from Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU to be able to lure anyone.

How is it any different than CUSA 3.0 creation.

CUSA was down to 8 after losing four. They add six. Two of that eight departed. They add two more. They lose another and add another.

Fear drives much of realignment. There’s always the specter of if I say no someone else says yes.

MWC schools successfully said no.
SBC schools successfully said no to the WAC raid
But Utah State said no to MWC and got left by Fresno and Nevada who said yes.
10-13-2021 02:34 PM
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RE: Matt Brown: CUSA's Regional Realignment is Good Idea...
(10-13-2021 01:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:07 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:09 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 12:06 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Game isn't that dangerous. Charlotte and ODU would sprint to be in a football league with ECU and a basketball league with Temple. WKU would like that basketball league with Charlotte/ODU/Temple/Tulsa/UAB. That a core of still potentially a multi bid league. You'd be able to fill in other things in the middle from C-USA, and App and Marshall would join that league whether they say they would or not.

Or you just expand by 4-6 now and if you lose some you have the teams you wanted and don't have to worry about luring them anymore.

I view SBC expansion the same way. Add 4 now and if you lose UL and App then you don't have to worry about expanding again without two of your more marketable teams.

Depends on how much each addition dilutes media revenue. If ESPN would pay as much per school for 12 as 10 then 12 makes more sense, and who knows depending on how much they care about having additional ESPN+ content 12 might be just as valuable if not more than 10.

True. I think 10 has been good for the SBC and 14 is too many. I hope they add USM plus one and only add four if they are smart adds and not just two more for the sake of two more.

I agree, I think the Sun-Belt staying at 10 was an extremely savvy move, while C-USA overextended and over added. ECU actually has a level of blame to take for C-USA's demise though. ECU and specifically Terry Holland was a massive proponent of expanding the league larger than 12 to add more regional games and cut down on crossover games. ODU most like would not be in C-USA if it wasn't for Terry Holland's pushing. Of course ECU then got out of the league going past 12 turned out to be a very foolish move.

I gotta disagree on that. CUSA would still be at risk of losing a lot of schools no matter if they are at 12 or 14. Going to 14 might actually save them as it will likely give them enough core to make it feasible to rebuild.
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