(10-14-2021 01:52 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Just keep winning, if Cincinnati can manage to continue to win impressively over the AAC and ND finishes the season with only 1 loss and a top 10 ranking, anything is possible.

IMO, Cincy is in great position. The main problem any unbeaten G5 has to overcome in making the playoffs is they have to beat out two P5 champs and also a possible high-ranked Notre Dame. That's a hurdle no G5 has yet met. But as of *right now*, Cincy has already met 2/3 of that hurdle. Thanks to the win over ND, Cincy will surely be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. Also, IMO, Cincy will not be ranked behind a one-loss PAC champ, and all PAC teams already have one loss.

So that makes Cincy vulnerable to losing out to the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC champs. Or, to two SEC teams and two more P5 champs.

So if I am Cincy, I am rooting for the following, other than obviously Cincy winning out:

1) Notre Dame winning out. Strengthens Cincy's resume.

2) Alabama losing another game or Georgia losing a game before the SEC title game. That assures that only one SEC team gets in ahead of Cincy.

3) Wake Forest loses a game. That knocks out** the ACC.

4) The winner of Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State loses a game. That knocks out the Big 12.

5) The PAC ... well, the PAC doesn't matter, as no PAC team will be ranked ahead of an unbeaten Cincy.

** When I say "knocks out" I don't mean knocks them out of the playoffs, necessarily. I mean that this team is no longer a threat to displace Cincy from the playoffs. If say a one-loss Wake Forest ACC champ makes the playoffs, an unbeaten Cincy surely will too.

(10-14-2021 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:52 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Just keep winning, if Cincinnati can manage to continue to win impressively over the AAC and ND finishes the season with only 1 loss and a top 10 ranking, anything is possible.

IMO, Cincy is in great position. The main problem any unbeaten G5 has to overcome in making the playoffs is they have to beat out two P5 champs and also a possible high-ranked Notre Dame. That's a hurdle no G5 has yet met. But as of *right now*, Cincy has already met 2/3 of that hurdle. Thanks to the win over ND, Cincy will surely be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. Also, IMO, Cincy will not be ranked behind a one-loss PAC champ, and all PAC teams already have one loss.

So that makes Cincy vulnerable to losing out to the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC champs. Or, to two SEC teams and two more P5 champs.

So if I am Cincy, I am rooting for the following, other than obviously Cincy winning out:

1) Notre Dame winning out. Strengthens Cincy's resume.

2) Alabama losing another game or Georgia losing a game before the SEC title game. That assures that only one SEC team gets in ahead of Cincy.

3) Wake Forest loses a game. That knocks out** the ACC.

4) The winner of Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State loses a game. That knocks out the Big 12.

5) The PAC ... well, the PAC doesn't matter, as no PAC team will be ranked ahead of an unbeaten Cincy.

** When I say "knocks out" I don't mean knocks them out of the playoffs, necessarily. I mean that this team is no longer a threat to displace Cincy from the playoffs. If say a one-loss Wake Forest ACC champ makes the playoffs, an unbeaten Cincy surely will too.

As I said, it ND wins out, they may make the top 3 and get ranked ahead of Cincinnati. A 1 loss Oregon with a win over a 1 loss Big 10 Ohio St. gets in ahead of Cincinnati. I think they will find ways to keep Cincinnati no higher than #5, barring continued disruption at the top.

You might note in the polls that A&M is ranked ahead of Arkansas with the same record as is Ohio St. ahead of Oregon.

(10-14-2021 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:52 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Just keep winning, if Cincinnati can manage to continue to win impressively over the AAC and ND finishes the season with only 1 loss and a top 10 ranking, anything is possible.

IMO, Cincy is in great position. The main problem any unbeaten G5 has to overcome in making the playoffs is they have to beat out two P5 champs and also a possible high-ranked Notre Dame. That's a hurdle no G5 has yet met. But as of *right now*, Cincy has already met 2/3 of that hurdle. Thanks to the win over ND, Cincy will surely be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. Also, IMO, Cincy will not be ranked behind a one-loss PAC champ, and all PAC teams already have one loss.

So that makes Cincy vulnerable to losing out to the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC champs. Or, to two SEC teams and two more P5 champs.

So if I am Cincy, I am rooting for the following, other than obviously Cincy winning out:

1) Notre Dame winning out. Strengthens Cincy's resume.

2) Alabama losing another game or Georgia losing a game before the SEC title game. That assures that only one SEC team gets in ahead of Cincy.

3) Wake Forest loses a game. That knocks out** the ACC.

4) The winner of Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State loses a game. That knocks out the Big 12.

5) The PAC ... well, the PAC doesn't matter, as no PAC team will be ranked ahead of an unbeaten Cincy.

** When I say "knocks out" I don't mean knocks them out of the playoffs, necessarily. I mean that this team is no longer a threat to displace Cincy from the playoffs. If say a one-loss Wake Forest ACC champ makes the playoffs, an unbeaten Cincy surely will too.

As I said, it ND wins out, they may make the top 3 and get ranked ahead of Cincinnati. A 1 loss Oregon with a win over a 1 loss Big 10 Ohio St. gets in ahead of Cincinnati. I think they will find ways to keep Cincinnati no higher than #5, barring continued disruption at the top.

I would be willing to bet you $50 that if Notre Dame runs the table from here on
out and so does Cincy, that Notre Dame does not end up ranked ahead of Cincy in the final CFP rankings, the one that determines the playoff spots.

And $50 is the most I ever bet on football, LOL.

I will admit that your Oregon scenario gives me pause. So I'm unwilling to bet on that.

(10-14-2021 02:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  IMO, Cincy is in great position. The main problem any unbeaten G5 has to overcome in making the playoffs is they have to beat out two P5 champs and also a possible high-ranked Notre Dame. That's a hurdle no G5 has yet met. But as of *right now*, Cincy has already met 2/3 of that hurdle. Thanks to the win over ND, Cincy will surely be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. Also, IMO, Cincy will not be ranked behind a one-loss PAC champ, and all PAC teams already have one loss.

So that makes Cincy vulnerable to losing out to the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC champs. Or, to two SEC teams and two more P5 champs.

As I said, it ND wins out, they may make the top 3 and get ranked ahead of Cincinnati. A 1 loss Oregon with a win over a 1 loss Big 10 Ohio St. gets in ahead of Cincinnati. I think they will find ways to keep Cincinnati no higher than #5, barring continued disruption at the top.

I would be willing to bet you $50 that if Notre Dame runs the table from here on
out and so does Cincy, that Notre Dame does not end up ranked ahead of Cincy in the final CFP rankings, the one that determines the playoff spots.

And $50 is the most I ever bet on football, LOL.

I will admit that your Oregon scenario gives me pause. So I'm unwilling to bet on that.

One thing Cincinnati has going for it is there is a national push for inclusion of a non-autonomous conference team. This has been building since the undefeated UCF season a few years back. Fair or not, I think UC will tend to get more consideration for the CFP relatively speaking. I would also add that their success last year including a close loss to Georgia in the Peach Bowl has given them some cache for this year. If you don't include the Peach Bowl the Bearcats can win 22 straight games from last season through the AAC chip game this year. That success from last year was evident in their preseason ranking for 2021: #8.

(10-14-2021 02:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:56 AM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:47 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:44 AM)Crayton Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  For example, in last year's final CFP, Cincy was ranked behind some multi-loss teams (Oklahoma, Florida) and behind a one-loss team that was not a conference or division champs (TAMU). I don't think that happens this year. I don't see any two-loss team, no matter who they are, ranked ahead of an unbeaten Cincy. Also, I don't think any one-loss ACC or PAC champ gets in ahead of them either. Probably not a one-loss B12 champ either.

But I still think that they lose out to *any* unbeaten P5 champ, even say a Wake Forest or a Kentucky, and they lose out to some one-loss P5 champs, such as a B1G champ and SEC champ, and they do not get in ahead of a Georgia that is unbeaten before losing to Alabama in the SEC CCG.

I'm with this. Like a 12-1 Georgia, I think a 1-loss at large Michigan would also be in a category ahead of Cincinnati. I'm not yet sold on Harbaugh's ability to get 11 or 12 wins, so it is as likely as an undefeated Kentucky or Wake Forest.

This is why conference champions must be the driving factor instead of this bogus ranking system. Let the ranking be determined on the field.

This position erroneously presupposes that is it a universal truth that a team who wins a given league, by virtue of that fact alone, is objectively more ‘deserving’ of a CFP slot than a team who finishes second in another conference, irrespective of league-to-league talent disparities. A 12-1 Georgia team who loses to a 12-1 Alabama in the SECCG certainly has a stronger claim than Cincy; a 12-1 Iowa whose only loss is in the B1G title game to a 12-1 Ohio State or Penn State or to 13-0 Michigan or Michigan State team likely does as well. If Bama beats UGA, OSU wins the B1G and OU gets its QB situation resolved and finishes undefeated, I’d expect it shake out like #1 OU (13-0); #2 Bama (12-1); #3 OSU (12-1); #4 UGA (12-1) and then outside the playoff #5 Iowa (12-1); #6 Oregon (12-1); and then #7 Cincy (13-0).

Yes, it makes no sense to prioritize conference champs when conferences may be very unequal.

Going 9-3 vs Arkansas's schedule is likely a more worthy achievement than going 12-0 vs Cincy's schedule.

HaHa, prioritising conference champs is Exactly the priority for real playoffs
in your words please explain why “ unequal conference champs “ is soooo bad when every other sport on earth has real playoffs and why college football is your preferred bull sh!t system that you desperately hold on to like a dying ember
so yeah, the floor is yours...

(10-14-2021 09:50 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:47 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:44 AM)Crayton Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  For example, in last year's final CFP, Cincy was ranked behind some multi-loss teams (Oklahoma, Florida) and behind a one-loss team that was not a conference or division champs (TAMU). I don't think that happens this year. I don't see any two-loss team, no matter who they are, ranked ahead of an unbeaten Cincy. Also, I don't think any one-loss ACC or PAC champ gets in ahead of them either. Probably not a one-loss B12 champ either.

But I still think that they lose out to *any* unbeaten P5 champ, even say a Wake Forest or a Kentucky, and they lose out to some one-loss P5 champs, such as a B1G champ and SEC champ, and they do not get in ahead of a Georgia that is unbeaten before losing to Alabama in the SEC CCG.

I'm with this. Like a 12-1 Georgia, I think a 1-loss at large Michigan would also be in a category ahead of Cincinnati. I'm not yet sold on Harbaugh's ability to get 11 or 12 wins, so it is as likely as an undefeated Kentucky or Wake Forest.

This is why conference champions must be the driving factor instead of this bogus ranking system. Let the ranking be determined on the field.

Agreed but that is effectively impossible with 130 schools unless you begin an elimination tournament like mid-season.

FCS does it with the same number of teams.

(10-14-2021 10:34 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:54 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:50 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:47 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:44 AM)Crayton Wrote:  I'm with this. Like a 12-1 Georgia, I think a 1-loss at large Michigan would also be in a category ahead of Cincinnati. I'm not yet sold on Harbaugh's ability to get 11 or 12 wins, so it is as likely as an undefeated Kentucky or Wake Forest.

This is why conference champions must be the driving factor instead of this bogus ranking system. Let the ranking be determined on the field.

Agreed but that is effectively impossible with 130 schools unless you begin an elimination tournament like mid-season.

It's possible...div II and div III make it work. Don't see why Div I can't as well.

Because in D-II and D-III nobody is watching those early round games. In D-I the economics of a playoff requires that the games be reasonably competitive and attractive to a large number of fans. You aren't going to get that if you give an autobid to a five-loss MAC team.

Sure you will.

(10-14-2021 10:34 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:54 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:50 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:47 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:44 AM)Crayton Wrote:  I'm with this. Like a 12-1 Georgia, I think a 1-loss at large Michigan would also be in a category ahead of Cincinnati. I'm not yet sold on Harbaugh's ability to get 11 or 12 wins, so it is as likely as an undefeated Kentucky or Wake Forest.

This is why conference champions must be the driving factor instead of this bogus ranking system. Let the ranking be determined on the field.

Agreed but that is effectively impossible with 130 schools unless you begin an elimination tournament like mid-season.

It's possible...div II and div III make it work. Don't see why Div I can't as well.

Because in D-II and D-III nobody is watching those early round games. In D-I the economics of a playoff requires that the games be reasonably competitive and attractive to a large number of fans. You aren't going to get that if you give an autobid to a five-loss MAC team.

That's not necessarily true. People will still watch a blood bath because of who's doing the butchering and who's getting butchered. Trust me on that one. Doesn't matter who Ohio State plays in the first round, a good number of people are to watch to either see them succeed or fail or watch the next up and coming team get the exposure.

(10-14-2021 04:08 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:34 AM)ken d Wrote:  Because in D-II and D-III nobody is watching those early round games. In D-I the economics of a playoff requires that the games be reasonably competitive and attractive to a large number of fans. You aren't going to get that if you give an autobid to a five-loss MAC team.

That's not necessarily true. People will still watch a blood bath because of who's doing the butchering and who's getting butchered. Trust me on that one. Doesn't matter who Ohio State plays in the first round, a good number of people are to watch to either see them succeed or fail or watch the next up and coming team get the exposure.

I'd watch... for a quarter. Once the game is 3+ scores I'm tuning out. There'd probably be 1 of the Top 4 teams who struggle to put their game away until the 4th.

If they could scrap/incorporate the CCG as part of the Round of 16 AND somehow get schools from each of the 10 conferences, that'd be a winning format.

(10-14-2021 03:30 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  IMO, Cincy is in great position. The main problem any unbeaten G5 has to overcome in making the playoffs is they have to beat out two P5 champs and also a possible high-ranked Notre Dame. That's a hurdle no G5 has yet met. But as of *right now*, Cincy has already met 2/3 of that hurdle. Thanks to the win over ND, Cincy will surely be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. Also, IMO, Cincy will not be ranked behind a one-loss PAC champ, and all PAC teams already have one loss.

So that makes Cincy vulnerable to losing out to the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC champs. Or, to two SEC teams and two more P5 champs.

As I said, it ND wins out, they may make the top 3 and get ranked ahead of Cincinnati. A 1 loss Oregon with a win over a 1 loss Big 10 Ohio St. gets in ahead of Cincinnati. I think they will find ways to keep Cincinnati no higher than #5, barring continued disruption at the top.

I would be willing to bet you $50 that if Notre Dame runs the table from here on
out and so does Cincy, that Notre Dame does not end up ranked ahead of Cincy in the final CFP rankings, the one that determines the playoff spots.

And $50 is the most I ever bet on football, LOL.

I will admit that your Oregon scenario gives me pause. So I'm unwilling to bet on that.

One thing Cincinnati has going for it is there is a national push for inclusion of a non-autonomous conference team. This has been building since the undefeated UCF season a few years back. Fair or not, I think UC will tend to get more consideration for the CFP relatively speaking. I would also add that their success last year including a close loss to Georgia in the Peach Bowl has given them some cache for this year. If you don't include the Peach Bowl the Bearcats can win 22 straight games from last season through the AAC chip game this year. That success from last year was evident in their preseason ranking for 2021: #8.

There is no "national push."

If things are expanded its only fair to bring more teams in, but there is no "national push" to put one in the top 4.

(10-14-2021 02:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:52 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Just keep winning, if Cincinnati can manage to continue to win impressively over the AAC and ND finishes the season with only 1 loss and a top 10 ranking, anything is possible.

IMO, Cincy is in great position. The main problem any unbeaten G5 has to overcome in making the playoffs is they have to beat out two P5 champs and also a possible high-ranked Notre Dame. That's a hurdle no G5 has yet met. But as of *right now*, Cincy has already met 2/3 of that hurdle. Thanks to the win over ND, Cincy will surely be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. Also, IMO, Cincy will not be ranked behind a one-loss PAC champ, and all PAC teams already have one loss.

So that makes Cincy vulnerable to losing out to the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC champs. Or, to two SEC teams and two more P5 champs.

So if I am Cincy, I am rooting for the following, other than obviously Cincy winning out:

1) Notre Dame winning out. Strengthens Cincy's resume.

2) Alabama losing another game or Georgia losing a game before the SEC title game. That assures that only one SEC team gets in ahead of Cincy.

3) Wake Forest loses a game. That knocks out** the ACC.

4) The winner of Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State loses a game. That knocks out the Big 12.

5) The PAC ... well, the PAC doesn't matter, as no PAC team will be ranked ahead of an unbeaten Cincy.

** When I say "knocks out" I don't mean knocks them out of the playoffs, necessarily. I mean that this team is no longer a threat to displace Cincy from the playoffs. If say a one-loss Wake Forest ACC champ makes the playoffs, an unbeaten Cincy surely will too.

As I said, it ND wins out, they may make the top 3 and get ranked ahead of Cincinnati. A 1 loss Oregon with a win over a 1 loss Big 10 Ohio St. gets in ahead of Cincinnati. I think they will find ways to keep Cincinnati no higher than #5, barring continued disruption at the top.

I would be willing to bet you $50 that if Notre Dame runs the table from here on
out and so does Cincy, that Notre Dame does not end up ranked ahead of Cincy in the final CFP rankings, the one that determines the playoff spots.

And $50 is the most I ever bet on football, LOL.

I will admit that your Oregon scenario gives me pause. So I'm unwilling to bet on that.

I think you underestimate the desire of the committee to put in whoever they want to put in. They would prefer to put in Notre Dame. Now they can't do it if ND and Cincinnati are in the same group of 3 (#s4-#6--they evaluate everyone in groups of 3), but they could certainly do something like have it Alabama, Georgia and Notre Dame in the top 3 and slip an Oregon back to #4 so they don't have to do head to head ND-Cincinnati.

(10-14-2021 04:50 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 03:30 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  IMO, Cincy is in great position. The main problem any unbeaten G5 has to overcome in making the playoffs is they have to beat out two P5 champs and also a possible high-ranked Notre Dame. That's a hurdle no G5 has yet met. But as of *right now*, Cincy has already met 2/3 of that hurdle. Thanks to the win over ND, Cincy will surely be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. Also, IMO, Cincy will not be ranked behind a one-loss PAC champ, and all PAC teams already have one loss.

So that makes Cincy vulnerable to losing out to the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC champs. Or, to two SEC teams and two more P5 champs.

As I said, it ND wins out, they may make the top 3 and get ranked ahead of Cincinnati. A 1 loss Oregon with a win over a 1 loss Big 10 Ohio St. gets in ahead of Cincinnati. I think they will find ways to keep Cincinnati no higher than #5, barring continued disruption at the top.

I would be willing to bet you $50 that if Notre Dame runs the table from here on
out and so does Cincy, that Notre Dame does not end up ranked ahead of Cincy in the final CFP rankings, the one that determines the playoff spots.

And $50 is the most I ever bet on football, LOL.

I will admit that your Oregon scenario gives me pause. So I'm unwilling to bet on that.

One thing Cincinnati has going for it is there is a national push for inclusion of a non-autonomous conference team. This has been building since the undefeated UCF season a few years back. Fair or not, I think UC will tend to get more consideration for the CFP relatively speaking. I would also add that their success last year including a close loss to Georgia in the Peach Bowl has given them some cache for this year. If you don't include the Peach Bowl the Bearcats can win 22 straight games from last season through the AAC chip game this year. That success from last year was evident in their preseason ranking for 2021: #8.

There is no "national push."

If things are expanded its only fair to bring more teams in, but there is no "national push" to put one in the top 4.

You're not reading articles and listening to national sports media types then. Dennis Dodd just wrote an article today for CBS Sports. Fans and the media are making a push. The CFP Committee is another story.

ESPN's CFP Predictor as things stand today:

Georgia 91%
Oklahoma 59%
Alabama 54%
Cincinnati 45%
Michigan 40%
Ohio St 37%
Iowa 25%
Michigan St 9%

National Sports Media Push

(10-14-2021 05:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ESPN's CFP Predictor as things stand today:

Georgia 91%
Oklahoma 59%
Alabama 54%
Cincinnati 45%
Michigan 40%
Ohio St 37%
Iowa 25%
Michigan St 9%

National Sports Media Push

So 2 SEC schools, 1 Big 12 school and whoever the Big 10 champ is.

(10-14-2021 05:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ESPN's CFP Predictor as things stand today:

Georgia 91%
Oklahoma 59%
Alabama 54%
Cincinnati 45%
Michigan 40%
Ohio St 37%
Iowa 25%
Michigan St 9%

National Sports Media Push

So 2 SEC schools, 1 Big 12 school and whoever the Big 10 champ is.

That's not how I interpret that. You're repeating what the traditional year-in-year out types say and think. Look, I'm not delusional that anything is certain with Cincinnati's inclusion but you have to agree that in no other time since the CFP began has there been this much conversation and chance for a team outside the A5 to get in. Let's not act like it is IMPOSSIBLE or IMPROBABLE that Cincinnati gets in. They have to finish unbeaten for sure. Time will tell...

(10-14-2021 05:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ESPN's CFP Predictor as things stand today:

Georgia 91%
Oklahoma 59%
Alabama 54%
Cincinnati 45%
Michigan 40%
Ohio St 37%
Iowa 25%
Michigan St 9%

National Sports Media Push

So 2 SEC schools, 1 Big 12 school and whoever the Big 10 champ is.

Importantly, ESPN gives the Bearcats 90% odds to make the playoff if they go 13-0. Similar to my 87%. So, decent odds.

(10-14-2021 05:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ESPN's CFP Predictor as things stand today:

Georgia 91%
Oklahoma 59%
Alabama 54%
Cincinnati 45%
Michigan 40%
Ohio St 37%
Iowa 25%
Michigan St 9%

National Sports Media Push

So 2 SEC schools, 1 Big 12 school and whoever the Big 10 champ is.

That's not how I interpret that. You're repeating what the traditional year-in-year out types say and think. Look, I'm not delusional that anything is certain with Cincinnati's inclusion but you have to agree that in no other time since the CFP began has there been this much conversation and chance for a team outside the A5 to get in. Let's not act like it is IMPOSSIBLE or IMPROBABLE that Cincinnati gets in. They have to finish unbeaten for sure. Time will tell...

There was a lot of discussion about Houston that year they beat OU, but they fell apart late in the season.

(10-14-2021 09:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ESPN's CFP Predictor as things stand today:

Georgia 91%
Oklahoma 59%
Alabama 54%
Cincinnati 45%
Michigan 40%
Ohio St 37%
Iowa 25%
Michigan St 9%

National Sports Media Push

So 2 SEC schools, 1 Big 12 school and whoever the Big 10 champ is.

That's not how I interpret that. You're repeating what the traditional year-in-year out types say and think. Look, I'm not delusional that anything is certain with Cincinnati's inclusion but you have to agree that in no other time since the CFP began has there been this much conversation and chance for a team outside the A5 to get in. Let's not act like it is IMPOSSIBLE or IMPROBABLE that Cincinnati gets in. They have to finish unbeaten for sure. Time will tell...

There was a lot of discussion about Houston that year they beat OU, but they fell apart late in the season.

And how does that impact right now? Different team, different time.

(10-14-2021 09:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 05:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ESPN's CFP Predictor as things stand today:

Georgia 91%
Oklahoma 59%
Alabama 54%
Cincinnati 45%
Michigan 40%
Ohio St 37%
Iowa 25%
Michigan St 9%

National Sports Media Push

So 2 SEC schools, 1 Big 12 school and whoever the Big 10 champ is.

That's not how I interpret that. You're repeating what the traditional year-in-year out types say and think. Look, I'm not delusional that anything is certain with Cincinnati's inclusion but you have to agree that in no other time since the CFP began has there been this much conversation and chance for a team outside the A5 to get in. Let's not act like it is IMPOSSIBLE or IMPROBABLE that Cincinnati gets in. They have to finish unbeaten for sure. Time will tell...

There was a lot of discussion about Houston that year they beat OU, but they fell apart late in the season.

#6 Houston came into Annapolis in October and lost to eventual AAC West champion Navy. Cincinnati comes to Annapolis for homecoming next week.