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Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
With Cincinnati currently having their best chance as well as the AAC's best chance, of getting to the playoffs, what are the chances they get there again within the next 5 years?

NOTE: I made an error when I wrote "their" but meant to write "there".
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
Much tougher in the Big 12. They should have gone to the PAC 12 or ACC.
10-11-2021 04:39 PM
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
(10-11-2021 04:39 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Much tougher in the Big 12. They should have gone to the PAC 12 or ACC.

No doubt. We made a mistake in turning down the Pac-12. 01-wingedeagle
10-11-2021 04:41 PM
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
It's kind of a complicated question. Do I expect the program to stay at a high level for the near future? Yes. Will it be much harder to run the table in the Big 12? Absolutely. But I also expect the playoff to expand, which will give us greater opportunities for access.
10-11-2021 04:43 PM
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
Are we expecting Cincinnati to still be in the AAC next season?
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
I'm voting better for a couple reasons.

1 - I think there is a better than 50% chance Fickell will still be here in 5 years. As long as Luke gets what he wants in terms of facilities/staff salary pool and feels he can compete for championships here, he's only leaving for a handful of jobs at most.

2 - Our recruiting continues to trend upwards. Most of our current starters were low-to-mid 3 stars coming in; I think a few of them might have even been 2 stars. Now, we're bringing in double-digit mid-to-high 3 stars with a few 4 stars mixed in. Our average 247 composite recruit rankings in the Fickell era:

2017: 0.8270, ranked #63
2018: 0.8443, ranked #49
2019: 0.8456, ranked #66 (transfer-heavy class with only 15 high school commits)
2020: 0.8531, ranked #41
2021: 0.8524, ranked #45
2022: 0.8584, ranked #34

3 - Although the Big 12 is going to get the old Big East treatment from the media, the perception of playing in the Big 12 will still help.

4 - The CFP should expand to 12 within 5 years, so even if Cincinnati loses one or two games they wouldn't have in the AAC, they can still be in the hunt.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
To many dominoes have to fall.

If Bama goes in at 10-1 and beats Georgia they are in
If Big 10 is looking like two teams. Iowa, Michigan, OSU, MSU
Oklahoma needs to lose
Cincy will likely have to beat a good SMU team twice.

My guess the first CFP Poll will look like this
UGA
Iowa
Oklahoma
Alabama
OSU
CINCI
Michigan
OK State
Michigan State
Oregon
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Oregon being behind Ohio State in everything with the head to head win is so perplexing.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
(10-11-2021 05:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oregon being behind Ohio State in everything with the head to head win is so perplexing.

Transitive property does not work in college football unless it is a tie-breaker.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
(10-11-2021 04:15 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  With Cincinnati currently having their best chance as well as the AAC's best chance, of getting to the playoffs, what are the chances they get there again within the next 5 years?

NOTE: I made an error when I wrote "their" but meant to write "there".

Than instead of then too-
10-11-2021 06:09 PM
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
(10-11-2021 05:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oregon being behind Ohio State in everything with the head to head win is so perplexing.

Not really. Did you see the love Ohio State got this weekend on most of the networks? CJ Stroud this. CJ Stroud that. They had some troubles with their offense at the beginning of the year, but now everything is clicking and their all on the same page. The narrative is being set.

Most of the AP voters probably don’t even look at most of the games outside of their respective conferences/regions. They catch up on what they missed on the networks with the highlights and such.

I agree with you though, it’s perplexing to true fans that follow the sport closely and actually have a clue about college football and what’s going on.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
Being in the big 12 improves their odds generally, however they've had some really unique lucky factors that are positioning them in a pretty non repeatable way this year. Strong prior year, controlled the game against this year's consensus number 1 in last year's bowl game (and both rosters are largely the same as last year's bowl rosters), had a schedule with 2 p5 road games including a blue blood program, due to Covid rules and good fortune brought back an absurd amount of experience and talent including key guys playing an extra year and a Heisman contending qb.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
I put lower chance. Not because I am trying to knock Cincy, but to be fair, it’s extremely difficult to sustain this level of success over long periods of time. Ask UCF this. If the playoff expands to 12 as expected, it will certainly help their odds. But at four, it’s extremely difficult. And will still be very difficult at 12.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
If this staff stays, much higher chance in the B12.

UC is already getting some P5 benefit of the doubt since being accepted into the B12z. Now replace conference games from the AAC to the b12 and win the conference and you will be in the discussion every time.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
Do you have another Desmond Ridder waiting in the wings? I know UC signed a talented qb in the 2020 or 2021 class, but Ridder's a flat out winner. Until we know that, this year is the best chance at getting in and it's not close.
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RE: Cincinnati and Future Playoff Chances
(10-11-2021 05:16 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  4 - The CFP should expand to 12 within 5 years, so even if Cincinnati loses one or two games they wouldn't have in the AAC, they can still be in the hunt.

I don't see a two loss B12 team in a conference minus Oklahoma & Texas getting into a 12 team playoff.
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(10-11-2021 06:04 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(10-11-2021 05:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oregon being behind Ohio State in everything with the head to head win is so perplexing.

Transitive property does not work in college football unless it is a tie-breaker.
Transitive property? It was a head to head win on the road.

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(10-11-2021 08:09 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  Do you have another Desmond Ridder waiting in the wings? I know UC signed a talented qb in the 2020 or 2021 class, but Ridder's a flat out winner. Until we know that, this year is the best chance at getting in and it's not close.

Ridder’s backup is Prater...RS Freshman who is a local kid and who was UC’s highest rated high school recruit ever.

Staff seems to like what they have with him. But I’m sure there will be a top transfer interested in competing for the open job, too.
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(10-11-2021 08:52 PM)b2b Wrote:  
(10-11-2021 06:04 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(10-11-2021 05:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oregon being behind Ohio State in everything with the head to head win is so perplexing.

Transitive property does not work in college football unless it is a tie-breaker.
Transitive property? It was a head to head win on the road.

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Right? It’s crazy how the collective brain works on this.
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