(10-10-2021 12:42 PM)griffin Wrote: Various Topics
Season Ticket Sales - Stadium
1) This season 16,500
2) Past 6 or so seasons - 16,500 roughly - give or take, so there has been no net gain on the "average" of this fantastic run we have had
3) Bowen's first year - the reason he didn't announce it back then and even today since the numbers are so low was because the total had fallen to a little more than 6000. RC had been padding the end of the West era and Porter era with band, passes anything he could count etc and counting them in season ticket sales.
4) Memphis is in a economically depressed area - it is what it is. A city where half of the market is black and half white. African Americans do not buy season tickets in any significant way to Memphis football. Memphis fans in general do not buy enough based on our market size.
5) Even after Penny was announced in basketball as the coach, the actual season ticket sales while greatly increased from the very low pastner and tubby years was overall all disappointing in what they thought would occur
Crowd Estimates
1) 16,500 base as foundation for Memphis football
2) Outside of big games, 25% of those do not come - your base is now 12,000 or so.
3) From there would be your individual game tickets sold
4) Do the math
5) Tulsa as an example, like every team embellishes the crowd - announced 17.500...no more than 4000 attended
Stadium
1) The university found out about the announcement when we all did - they were not consulted or brought into the process.
2) The University and their "partners" were not aware this was going on in the process it was going on.
3) We have some "partners" who are not happy about this
4) NEW STADIUM: If there will be one, do not look for one in the 45,000 range, think 35 to 38, possibly push to 40K.
Random
1) Memphis true freshman kicker - is known on the team as having a "hurt v a g i n a" - apparently lost a lot of respects of the players in a big way and coaches - sure we will be recruiting another one or two
3) Asst Basketball coach who was fired from his last job because he had a "dic pic" on the cloud of that university is no longer on our staff here. Was here for only one year. Was informed this weekend.
I'm not necessarily disputing anything that you are saying, but at the same time, you are being very "Memphis" in this post; which isn't typical of you for everything, but in this case it is.
You Are Being Memphis IF...
- You think we were deserving of having 2008 vacated, when Rose wasn't interviewed, and hundreds of other schools slid with worse infractions and more proof
- Bonus points for pointing out that we deserved to get hammered for Rose's test or non test when UNC had sham courses for decades
- You think that we deserve to get hammered for Wiseman, when Zion's family got hundreds of thousands of dollars of obvious benefits
- Saying that there is no excuse for POS refereeing costing us games, we should be able to fight through adversity. How about OTHER teams fight through adversity when we get calls?
- Saying we should have violated the court order with Wiseman. Violate the court order??? Are you ******* kidding?
- Saying the team/coaches suck at the first sign of adversity
- Pointing out all of the shortcomings with attendance when our attendance in both sports has been much higher than either Cincinnati or Houston since forever.
So I appreciate you breaking down the numbers like this, but in the end, the "bad" numbers that you are describing are still much better than Houston, Cincinnati's and on par with UCF's for football, while crushing UCF in basketball.