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RE: Did EMU MBB have an intra-squad scrimmage today?
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(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.

Hey Miggy,

I owe you the scrimmage post that I’ve promised but not delivered due to my schedule.

However, let me say this: Noah Farakahn (sp?) matched up against Spottsville in the scrimmage. I respect Spotts’ overall game because he’s a big-strong, quick, athletic guard who plays tough! Spotts Achilles heel right now is his outside shooting but he goes to the rack pretty well and plays tough defense. Noah got the best of Spotts! Noah is I believe 6-1 or 6-2 ?? He got into the lane anytime, Anytime he wanted to and could finish pretty well. His handles are very good and his quickness is very good. The one facet of his game I was impressed with the most was his ability to shoot overtop of Spotts off the dribble. Noah made a deep 3 by taking a jumper off the dribble over Spots when the shot clock ran down. I’m not making any predictions off one scrimmage but it appears Noah will be the most talented PG since Boykins (Better than Jackson and Lampley) at EMU if he can duplicate this performance. I don’t remember him turning the ball over or taking bad shots. Free throws looked good too. Spottsville played very hard during the scrimmage and did a lot of things well but the MVP of scrimmage 1 is Noah! Noah still needs to improve strength and consistency but may earn a spot on the all MAC freshman team.

I was impressed that the whole team played hard!

Njie also looked good in the post …. I would say his footwork is better than James T4, but not as quick, nasty or aggressive as JT4. I was also impressed with 6-10 Randle…..he’s skinny but very athletic - made a 3 pointer, put back dunk, etc works hard in the paint. Will be a big factor in the MAC if he puts on 35-40 LBs. Back to Njie, he controlled the defensive boards very well. He could also be an all-freshman MAC candidate.

Miggy, I owe you more details in a succinct overall analysis. I have not forgotten you :-) Keep your posts coming!

Also, Sam is very well versed in basketball so you could take a lot of what he says as pretty accurate information even though he and I will both agree to disagree sometimes. Sam makes very valid points about not comparing current players stats from Murphy’s system. For example, Lampley was a decent player but had no chance to showcase his talent playing street ball on offense. I believe Noah is better than Lampley even as a freshman.

Monty must have been feeling ill and I will leave it at that.

Okongo, Binelli, Luka and I believe Golson didn’t play in the scrimmage.

More to come and Miggy I love that you’re obsessed with EMU basketball!

Fishing for those positive ratings again?
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RE: Did EMU MBB have an intra-squad scrimmage today?
(Yesterday 03:19 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(Yesterday 01:05 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(Yesterday 12:51 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.

Hey Miggy,

I owe you the scrimmage post that I’ve promised but not delivered due to my schedule.

However, let me say this: Noah Farakahn (sp?) matched up against Spottsville in the scrimmage. I respect Spotts’ overall game because he’s a big-strong, quick, athletic guard who plays tough! Spotts Achilles heel right now is his outside shooting but he goes to the rack pretty well and plays tough defense. Noah got the best of Spotts! Noah is I believe 6-1 or 6-2 ?? He got into the lane anytime, Anytime he wanted to and could finish pretty well. His handles are very good and his quickness is very good. The one facet of his game I was impressed with the most was his ability to shoot overtop of Spotts off the dribble. Noah made a deep 3 by taking a jumper off the dribble over Spots when the shot clock ran down. I’m not making any predictions off one scrimmage but it appears Noah will be the most talented PG since Boykins (Better than Jackson and Lampley) at EMU if he can duplicate this performance. I don’t remember him turning the ball over or taking bad shots. Free throws looked good too. Spottsville played very hard during the scrimmage and did a lot of things well but the MVP of scrimmage 1 is Noah! Noah still needs to improve strength and consistency but may earn a spot on the all MAC freshman team.

I was impressed that the whole team played hard!

Njie also looked good in the post …. I would say his footwork is better than James T4, but not as quick, nasty or aggressive as JT4. I was also impressed with 6-10 Randle…..he’s skinny but very athletic - made a 3 pointer, put back dunk, etc works hard in the paint. Will be a big factor in the MAC if he puts on 35-40 LBs. Back to Njie, he controlled the defensive boards very well. He could also be an all-freshman MAC candidate.

Miggy, I owe you more details in a succinct overall analysis. I have not forgotten you :-) Keep your posts coming!

Also, Sam is very well versed in basketball so you could take a lot of what he says as pretty accurate information even though he and I will both agree to disagree sometimes. Sam makes very valid points about not comparing current players stats from Murphy’s system. For example, Lampley was a decent player but had no chance to showcase his talent playing street ball on offense. I believe Noah is better than Lampley even as a freshman.

Monty must have been feeling ill and I will leave it at that.

Okongo, Binelli, Luka and I believe Golson didn’t play in the scrimmage.

More to come and Miggy I love that you’re obsessed with EMU basketball!

Have great respect for Ramy’s and Sam’s opinions.

Great post on all the things that Noah Farrakhan brings to the table. Have worked with him to correct his jump shot. I want to see him excel on defense by stealing the ball. Did that in HS.

Glad you confirmed what everyone said about Njie. He’ll be more than solid for EMU. Good-shot-blocker.

Agree that Randle has a high upside. Just hope he’s not red-shirted. Although very skinny and raw, if he plays this season, he should be able to block shots at the rim. Shot blockers worth their weight in gold. So hard to find.

Hear great things about Golson as well.

Any opinion on Rice. Here’ when he’s on, he’s on.

Hear new plays being out in each day.

I post here a lot because I’m recovering from surgery and trying to keep busy. Plus, like you, I love bb.
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No problem guys, so since Heath had more talent than Murphy had his first year according to some experts here EMU is going to win over 14 games overall and have over 9 conference wins? Right?
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Luckey, that was a monster post on the scrimmage! Thank you!!

Couple follow up questions for you if you got the time:
1) where did N Scott play: small forward or power forward?
2) where did Ballard play: power forward or center?
3) how did Rice play? Just a shooter? Or can he drive too? Also was he in at small forward or shooting guard?
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RE: Did EMU MBB have an intra-squad scrimmage today?
(Yesterday 03:19 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(Yesterday 01:05 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(Yesterday 12:51 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.

Hey Miggy,

I owe you the scrimmage post that I’ve promised but not delivered due to my schedule.

However, let me say this: Noah Farakahn (sp?) matched up against Spottsville in the scrimmage. I respect Spotts’ overall game because he’s a big-strong, quick, athletic guard who plays tough! Spotts Achilles heel right now is his outside shooting but he goes to the rack pretty well and plays tough defense. Noah got the best of Spotts! Noah is I believe 6-1 or 6-2 ?? He got into the lane anytime, Anytime he wanted to and could finish pretty well. His handles are very good and his quickness is very good. The one facet of his game I was impressed with the most was his ability to shoot overtop of Spotts off the dribble. Noah made a deep 3 by taking a jumper off the dribble over Spots when the shot clock ran down. I’m not making any predictions off one scrimmage but it appears Noah will be the most talented PG since Boykins (Better than Jackson and Lampley) at EMU if he can duplicate this performance. I don’t remember him turning the ball over or taking bad shots. Free throws looked good too. Spottsville played very hard during the scrimmage and did a lot of things well but the MVP of scrimmage 1 is Noah! Noah still needs to improve strength and consistency but may earn a spot on the all MAC freshman team.

I was impressed that the whole team played hard!

Njie also looked good in the post …. I would say his footwork is better than James T4, but not as quick, nasty or aggressive as JT4. I was also impressed with 6-10 Randle…..he’s skinny but very athletic - made a 3 pointer, put back dunk, etc works hard in the paint. Will be a big factor in the MAC if he puts on 35-40 LBs. Back to Njie, he controlled the defensive boards very well. He could also be an all-freshman MAC candidate.

Miggy, I owe you more details in a succinct overall analysis. I have not forgotten you :-) Keep your posts coming!

Also, Sam is very well versed in basketball so you could take a lot of what he says as pretty accurate information even though he and I will both agree to disagree sometimes. Sam makes very valid points about not comparing current players stats from Murphy’s system. For example, Lampley was a decent player but had no chance to showcase his talent playing street ball on offense. I believe Noah is better than Lampley even as a freshman.

Monty must have been feeling ill and I will leave it at that.

Okongo, Binelli, Luka and I believe Golson didn’t play in the scrimmage.

More to come and Miggy I love that you’re obsessed with EMU basketball!

Thanks for the info Luckey! Excited to see Noah and the rest of the team in action.
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(Yesterday 04:56 PM)emu79 Wrote:  No problem guys, so since Heath had more talent than Murphy had his first year according to some experts here EMU is going to win over 14 games overall and have over 9 conference wins? Right?

Literally no one said that. All that’s being suggested is that you just never know, especially with a brand new team. It shouldn’t be too difficult to rebuild on the fly in this age of college basketball if you have a quality coach.
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Gee I like to know what qualifies someone as an EMU basketball expert on this board. Guys who haven't watch these guys scrimmage? Made up projections and pie in the sky predictions? You tell me what I want to hear so you are an expert. The fact is no one is an expert when it comes to this year's team. Too many unknowns that none of us can predict. Some of you predict instant success like like it was oatmeal.
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(Yesterday 05:21 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:56 PM)emu79 Wrote:  No problem guys, so since Heath had more talent than Murphy had his first year according to some experts here EMU is going to win over 14 games overall and have over 9 conference wins? Right?

Literally no one said that. All that’s being suggested is that you just never know, especially with a brand new team. It shouldn’t be too difficult to rebuild on the fly in this age of college basketball if you have a quality coach.

EMU79s You’re comparing apples and oranges.

In Murphy’s first season as HC, EMU averaged 56 ppg and gave up 55 ppg in conference play. EMU had a helluva defensive Center. EMU will average far more points per conference game.

Are they going to hold conference opponents to 55 ppg? Doubtful.
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(Yesterday 06:01 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Gee I like to know what qualifies someone as an EMU basketball expert on this board. Guys who haven't watch these guys scrimmage? Made up projections and pie in the sky predictions? You tell me what I want to hear so you are an expert. The fact is no one is an expert when it comes to this year's team. Too many unknowns that none of us can predict. Some of you predict instant success like like it was oatmeal.

EMU79, I am a basketball expert! After watching the scrimmage, I’m predicting a national championship :-)
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(Yesterday 05:07 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Luckey, that was a monster post on the scrimmage! Thank you!!

Couple follow up questions for you if you got the time:
1) where did N Scott play: small forward or power forward?
2) where did Ballard play: power forward or center?
3) how did Rice play? Just a shooter? Or can he drive too? Also was he in at small forward or shooting guard?

Hello Ramy,

Let me share my perspective:

1) Nate played mostly PF but quite honestly with the motion offense, all of the players are rotating to the 5 spots on the floor except in the post. Nate hit a 3 ball from the wing in the corner.

2) Ballard I believe matched up against Nate and played PF. I believe Goldon did not play because I didn’t see any players that would match his stature. Ballard actually hit back to back 3s…..yep I would not believe it if I didn’t see it with my own eyes. As always Ballard played all out was vocal and seemed to be having fun. Looks like Ballard hit the weight room too because there was some muscle on his 6-8 frame. I believe Ballard will be in the rotation as a role player - he just plays so hard and it’s infectious!

3) Rice played ok but seemed tentative. He made 1 or 2 outside shots.

So we can’t take too much away from the scrimmage because players were confused on offense sometimes on where to be on the floor if the play went into the 3rd loop/option or if improvisation was underway.

Let me also add that Spottsville was the most positive vocal player on the floor. Telling his teammates where they needed to be and answering their questions during timeouts etc. I’m sure he will be in the rotation based on his leadership and toughness!

Again Noah Farrakhan was the MVP of scrimmage 1. Let’s look at scrimmage 2 & 3 for more evaluation and projection.

Finally I was impressed that a couple hundred fans showed up for the scrimmage. I even got my picture taken with George Iceman Gervin who Coach Heath recognized after the scrimmage. Also impressed that coach Heath walked around the lower bowl thanking fans for coming out. I mean he walked around the lower bowl shaking hands. This reminded me of Braun. One game during the Dial - Tolbert - Boykins era, Braun engaged me in a conversation as I was walking up the stairs at Bowen leading from the ground level to the ticket office level. This is something I never saw Murphy do during a scrimmage or a game. Very nice touch Coach Heath!
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Wow, excellent info yet again, Luckey! Thanks!! BTW, Ballard hit a couple 3s in a game a couple years back- but the whole bench erupted in cheers both times so I assumed they were surprised he made them. Looks like he actually has range.
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