(10-10-2021 07:35 AM)AACfanaticsincenam Wrote:  This would essentially end SBC and CUSA. You would be left with the Power 4: SEC..........B1G, ACC, PAC..... best of the rest status moves from the AAC to the B12........then the G3 regional conferences with some sort of access to the CFP

Actually, the Big XII as a legally bound Autonomy Conference with its champion having AQ status to the CFP NY6 bowls would still be considered a Power Conference by NCAA ruling.

You're proposing to extinguish two Gang of 5 conferences and give the Power 5 + Notre Dame a 6-3 majority rule in NCAA governance? Well, if you thought the AAC didn't have much leverage now with the NCAA and the Power 5, then wait and see what happens should even one of the AAC's Gang of 5 allies is removed from the voting table.

JD worked for the P5 and still is with this lame brain idea.

(10-10-2021 07:59 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 07:35 AM)AACfanaticsincenam Wrote:  This would essentially end SBC and CUSA. You would be left with the Power 4: SEC..........B1G, ACC, PAC..... best of the rest status moves from the AAC to the B12........then the G3 regional conferences with some sort of access to the CFP

Actually, the Big XII as a legally bound Autonomy Conference with its champion having AQ status to the CFP NY6 bowls would still be considered a Power Conference by NCAA ruling.

You're proposing to extinguish two Gang of 5 conferences and give the Power 5 + Notre Dame a 6-3 majority rule in NCAA governance? Well, if you thought the AAC didn't have much leverage now with the NCAA and the Power 5, then wait and see what happens should even one of the AAC's Gang of 5 allies is removed from the voting table.

The P5 could easily break away at any point and take everything. Currently there’s too many G5 mouths to feed. The game is already up. We’re close to the end of realignment. A more consolidated G3 would make more sense from the P5 point of view. TV contracts as well

(10-09-2021 01:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Dodd breaks a story on a CUSA reorgnaization proposal for the Sunbelt/AAC/CUSA. There's a little more relevant realignment news buried in the story too.


A proposal to regionalize three Group of Five conferences will be presented to Conference USA presidents Monday. The concept calls for C-USA, the American and the Sun Belt to realign based on the states and regions of teams in an effort to halt ongoing realignment and stabilize budgets at the Group of Five level.

The plan is also intended to convince AAC commissioner Mike Aresco's conference to join the regionalization concept, thus eliminating the threat of Aresco picking off teams from the other two leagues to make up for the recent loss of three teams to the Big 12.

The concept will be presented by former Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany and former Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg. C-USA hired Delany as an advisor during realignment. Delany is being assisted by Weiberg, his former deputy Big Ten commissioner. Weiberg helped launch both the Big Ten and Pac-12 television networks.

When asked about the C-USA concept, an AAC spokesman told CBS Sports, "We have zero interest in that. That's not in our plan."

After failing to lure any Mountain West schools, sources said the AAC had set its sights East on some combination of UAB, North Texas, Texas State, UTSA, Appalachian State and perhaps others. There has also been buzz about Aresco going "big" and inviting up to eight schools to grow his conference to 16 teams.




https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ed-monday/

CUSA screaming help me - help me as they are about to get picked apart again. Aresco said no and the Sunbelt said no thank-you too. Sunbelt probably stays at 10 to keep the dollar shares higher, and the AAC adds 2- 4, probably 4 to get back to 12 for the conference. Delany gets a free paycheck for nothing.

(10-10-2021 09:19 AM)AACfanaticsincenam Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 07:59 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 07:35 AM)AACfanaticsincenam Wrote:  This would essentially end SBC and CUSA. You would be left with the Power 4: SEC..........B1G, ACC, PAC..... best of the rest status moves from the AAC to the B12........then the G3 regional conferences with some sort of access to the CFP

Actually, the Big XII as a legally bound Autonomy Conference with its champion having AQ status to the CFP NY6 bowls would still be considered a Power Conference by NCAA ruling.

You're proposing to extinguish two Gang of 5 conferences and give the Power 5 + Notre Dame a 6-3 majority rule in NCAA governance? Well, if you thought the AAC didn't have much leverage now with the NCAA and the Power 5, then wait and see what happens should even one of the AAC's Gang of 5 allies is removed from the voting table.

The P5 could easily break away at any point and take everything. Currently there’s too many G5 mouths to feed. The game is already up. We’re close to the end of realignment. A more consolidated G3 would make more sense from the P5 point of view. TV contracts as well

The Power 5 can't easily break away because they have to have membership in the NCAA. If they leave the NCAA to form their own club, Congress will know the move was made with the intentions of profiteering from athletics which could lead to all of those Power 5 schools being stripped of their tax-exempt statuses.

The NCAA made some governance concessions to the Power 5 conferences by legally delegating autonomy to those 5 conferences as a compromise, but deep down, the Power 5 schools know that forming their own NCAA-like organization just for them would be a logistics nightmare that would struggle to convince Congress that the whole reason for separation from the NCAA was to provide a better educational experience for prospective students.

(10-10-2021 01:24 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  I get it, no amount of evidence will convince you that it is over, but it’s over. No MW team is coming to the AAC.

what? AF's ad, and csu's AD both said in the last week that they are still open to the aac.. csu said it "has" to be aligned with central time teams in "the mwc or aac"

both had a clear message that making a move before texas and ou leave wasn't wise, that they wanted to see the landscape before making a move, but were not opposed to a move..these are things they said publicly, this wasnt a FOIA

there is CLEAR evidence justifying aac fans talking about waiting for 2-3 years for texas/ou to move and trying again as one of the options

(10-10-2021 11:27 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 01:24 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  I get it, no amount of evidence will convince you that it is over, but it’s over. No MW team is coming to the AAC.

wat? AF ad, an csu AD both said in the last week that they are still open to the aac.. csu it "has" to be aligned with central time teams in "the mwc or aac"

both had a clear message that making a move before texas and ou leave wasnt wise, that they wanted to see the landscape before making a move, but wer enot opposed to a move..these are things they said publicly, this wasnt a FOIA

there is CLEAR evidence justifying aac fans talking about waiting for 2-3 for texas/ou to move and trying again as one of the options

I would say that there is definite interest. That the AAC is juggling possibilities right now.

I again think the combo of CSU, AFA, UNLV, and SDSU is attractive to all participants. It also opens the door for Army, putting New Mexico instead of UAB in it might close that deal. So an offering to those 5 MW with the door open to Army with UAB or a Nevada/Utah State back up is probably what is boiling on that unwatched pot. With only one cross over for football and minimal home and homes to play everyone for basketball travel is actually roughly the same. Will it happen? I don't know but it seems to be at least in the discussion. As is a single add or two temporarily to let things settle.

Finally while it seems there has been a rush to get things done this time in realignment, the fact is the timeline is vague and urgency isn't a top priority at this point. Once exits are announced the time frame will be roughly worked out and we'll see things start to be put under real pressure to sort it out.

(10-09-2021 03:08 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Reorganization might make sense for conferences that make about the same $$, but why on earth would we reorganize with CUSA?

I’m all for the regional setups for the Olympic sports. But this is a non-starter for football and basketball.