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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 09:11 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
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(10-09-2021 11:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  After years of futility, we hit on 2 good coaches in a row. It was only gonna take missing on 1 to get back to being terrible. Here we are.

The school didn't use the same process that found those other two coaches. That was a colossal mistake.

It was lazy and cheap.

I don’t think they did a national search when we hired Penny. Was that lazy and cheap also?
We had one of the best recruiting classes we ever had this past year.. I think we will be ok

Hiring a legendary former player was a no-brainer considering who we were replacing. Admittedly that also could have gone wrong.

I'm not actually on board with firing him this year, essentially his fist complete season. And who knows, he may turn us around and get us in a bowl game. But I firmly believe it is essential that we go after a proven DC if he can't abandon a failed scheme.

Are you prepared for another bad year if this one ends up sucking completely?

OH yeah--thats the ticket---give the POLITICAL CUD CHEWER RUIN SILVERFIELD A PASS because of covid ---everybody gets a trophy society ----first year dont count LOL------IT IS HIS 2ND YEAR LIKE IT OR NOT--------I'll use the same logic----since he actually coached the team in the Cotton Bowl-----I say its his 3rd season--SMH
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 09:19 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 09:12 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Bowl eligibility is going to be tough.

Turnovers and good grief what can be done about the kicking game?

I won't be surprised if they miss out this year even after the 3-0 start.

Silverfield ain't looking too good right about now but if he can fix this team and go at least 4-2 the second half that would go a long way to restoring some confidence.

I sure hope we don't have another Rey Dempsey / Larry Porter type situation....

We are not in a porter situation . We have been spoiled with great RB and Receivers and throw in a unproven QB… our defense is no different than when CF or norvell is here.

Definitely not a Porter situation. His teams had trouble lining up in a legal formation.

I think a more accurate comparison would be Rip Scherer. GREAT guy, players love him, capable of pulling off the big win once in a blue moon, but just can't figure things out.
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
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(10-09-2021 11:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:14 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  After playing in the Cotton Bowl, it took exactly two years to destroy Memphis football.

I don't care who you are that's pretty impressive

After years of futility, we hit on 2 good coaches in a row. It was only gonna take missing on 1 to get back to being terrible. Here we are.

yep, the "search committee" took the easy out on this hire. It's not quite as bad as hiring the video coordinator but close.

I’ll never understand why they didn’t stick to the plan that hired the previous two coaches

I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 04:34 AM)Cletus Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:43 PM)McNavia93 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:42 PM)RCM1029 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:40 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Fire Silverfield

I get the sentiment and am close to feeling that way. But at this point, I’d rather write the season off, play Hennigan come hell or high water, and try some new schemes on defense. Play to learn and not get injuries.

It’s never going to get better. Silverfield lost the team.

OK ….. next you’re gonna tell us you’ve got inside information

Right

Team didn’t play like they had been lost
They fought until the end

Too many mistakes for a good but not great team to overcome. Because turnovers are monstrous level mistakes.

7 consecutive turnovers since our kids last created one

Arguably nothing matters more. And that is football and the coaching staff after three straight games of this must figure something out
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
Porter had a really bad two years
Zero question
And in some games the team was woefully managed and while a terrific position coach and a solid recruiter he appeared over his head

Not sure how much more mileage can be earned continuing to beat on him
He inherited a mess from West and actually improved the talent level
And while the record didn’t show it his second team was much better than his first, scoring more and allowing less

He had to go, and it was bad
Just based on what he came into not as bad as so many want to remind. Note before searching for the deepest levels of snark…he was bad and 3-19 being uncompetitive in so many games could not stand
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:39 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:14 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  After playing in the Cotton Bowl, it took exactly two years to destroy Memphis football.

I don't care who you are that's pretty impressive

After years of futility, we hit on 2 good coaches in a row. It was only gonna take missing on 1 to get back to being terrible. Here we are.

yep, the "search committee" took the easy out on this hire. It's not quite as bad as hiring the video coordinator but close.

I’ll never understand why they didn’t stick to the plan that hired the previous two coaches

I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

Regardless of who hired RS and why, what's important now is whether he is able to learn from his mistakes and make hard decisions. So far, that does not appear to be the case. So far, he sounds like Tommy West after his heart surgery. Our defensive scheme is lauded for holding Tulsa to 417 yards, and creating no turnovers and getting no sacks, while giving up 230 yards on the ground. We took the lead with the game nearly over and lost in a drive that took 17 seconds. There is zero excuse, but RS continues the same blather. It's the scheme and yet nothing changes.
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 11:49 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 09:19 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 09:12 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Bowl eligibility is going to be tough.

Turnovers and good grief what can be done about the kicking game?

I won't be surprised if they miss out this year even after the 3-0 start.

Silverfield ain't looking too good right about now but if he can fix this team and go at least 4-2 the second half that would go a long way to restoring some confidence.

I sure hope we don't have another Rey Dempsey / Larry Porter type situation....

We are not in a porter situation . We have been spoiled with great RB and Receivers and throw in a unproven QB… our defense is no different than when CF or norvell is here.

Definitely not a Porter situation. His teams had trouble lining up in a legal formation.

I think a more accurate comparison would be Rip Scherer. GREAT guy, players love him, capable of pulling off the big win once in a blue moon, but just can't figure things out.

Rip's teams had good defenses.
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 12:54 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 11:49 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 09:19 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 09:12 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Bowl eligibility is going to be tough.

Turnovers and good grief what can be done about the kicking game?

I won't be surprised if they miss out this year even after the 3-0 start.

Silverfield ain't looking too good right about now but if he can fix this team and go at least 4-2 the second half that would go a long way to restoring some confidence.

I sure hope we don't have another Rey Dempsey / Larry Porter type situation....

We are not in a porter situation . We have been spoiled with great RB and Receivers and throw in a unproven QB… our defense is no different than when CF or norvell is here.

Definitely not a Porter situation. His teams had trouble lining up in a legal formation.

I think a more accurate comparison would be Rip Scherer. GREAT guy, players love him, capable of pulling off the big win once in a blue moon, but just can't figure things out.

Rip's teams had good defenses.

Back then - Rip and Tommy era it was simple. Memphis could only recruit x amount of good players.

Rip put them on defense
Tommy flipped it and put them on offense
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Finally someone who gets it.
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(10-10-2021 12:44 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:39 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  After years of futility, we hit on 2 good coaches in a row. It was only gonna take missing on 1 to get back to being terrible. Here we are.

yep, the "search committee" took the easy out on this hire. It's not quite as bad as hiring the video coordinator but close.

I’ll never understand why they didn’t stick to the plan that hired the previous two coaches

I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

Regardless of who hired RS and why, what's important now is whether he is able to learn from his mistakes and make hard decisions. So far, that does not appear to be the case. So far, he sounds like Tommy West after his heart surgery. Our defensive scheme is lauded for holding Tulsa to 417 yards, and creating no turnovers and getting no sacks, while giving up 230 yards on the ground. We took the lead with the game nearly over and lost in a drive that took 17 seconds. There is zero excuse, but RS continues the same blather. It's the scheme and yet nothing changes.

The defense was not lauded for 417 years with no turnovers or sacks

During the game they were recognized for having several three and outs, stopping Tulsa after a pick and doing more than enough to win the game had the offense not been turning it over and missing FGs

Defense gave up late long drives which stunk, had the terrible end of the half which stunk and as has been mentioned, have not gotten a turnover in a while, which stinks

But in game recognition hardly means what you are sneaking in here
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:39 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:14 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  After playing in the Cotton Bowl, it took exactly two years to destroy Memphis football.

I don't care who you are that's pretty impressive

After years of futility, we hit on 2 good coaches in a row. It was only gonna take missing on 1 to get back to being terrible. Here we are.

yep, the "search committee" took the easy out on this hire. It's not quite as bad as hiring the video coordinator but close.

I’ll never understand why they didn’t stick to the plan that hired the previous two coaches

I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

That's a good point. Probably should fire Veatch first.
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RE: ***Official Memphis @ Tulsa Game Thread*** (10/9)
(10-10-2021 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:39 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  After years of futility, we hit on 2 good coaches in a row. It was only gonna take missing on 1 to get back to being terrible. Here we are.

yep, the "search committee" took the easy out on this hire. It's not quite as bad as hiring the video coordinator but close.

I’ll never understand why they didn’t stick to the plan that hired the previous two coaches

I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

That's a good point. Probably should fire Veatch first.

How bout simultaneously ....... plus he needs to be replaced just for keeping Rock around
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(10-10-2021 01:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:39 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  yep, the "search committee" took the easy out on this hire. It's not quite as bad as hiring the video coordinator but close.

I’ll never understand why they didn’t stick to the plan that hired the previous two coaches

I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

That's a good point. Probably should fire Veatch first.

How bout simultaneously ....... plus he needs to be replaced just for keeping Rock around
So you want to fire the guy who hired the coach that coached in the Cotton Bowl and the coach who coached the Cotton Bowl? Wow
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(10-09-2021 11:26 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  Tulsa guy laying on the ground in pain and we call a time out

the clock would have restarted as soon as he was off the field and they could run the clock down. It saved 35 seconds.
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(10-09-2021 10:35 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Kevin Johns has to go period. This offense in 2 years under his system has been set back to early Fuente years.

We're 11th in total offense and 24th in scoring offense. What team are you f'n watching?
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(10-10-2021 01:52 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I’ll never understand why they didn’t stick to the plan that hired the previous two coaches

I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

That's a good point. Probably should fire Veatch first.

How bout simultaneously ....... plus he needs to be replaced just for keeping Rock around
So you want to fire the guy who hired the coach that coached in the Cotton Bowl and the coach who coached the Cotton Bowl? Wow
Your comment makes NO SENSE. Silverfield did not GET us to the CB.
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(10-09-2021 11:18 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 11:14 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  After playing in the Cotton Bowl, it took exactly two years to destroy Memphis football.

I don't care who you are that's pretty impressive

After years of futility, we hit on 2 good coaches in a row. It was only gonna take missing on 1 to get back to being terrible. Here we are.

The school didn't use the same process that found those other two coaches. That was a colossal mistake.
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(10-10-2021 03:23 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:52 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

That's a good point. Probably should fire Veatch first.

How bout simultaneously ....... plus he needs to be replaced just for keeping Rock around
So you want to fire the guy who hired the coach that coached in the Cotton Bowl and the coach who coached the Cotton Bowl? Wow
Your comment makes NO SENSE. Silverfield did not GET us to the CB.

He watched us get our arse kicked. Hes good at that
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(10-10-2021 03:23 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:52 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-10-2021 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I always thought that plan was in place to prevent RCJ from hiring another coach. With RC out of the picture, Veatch got a shot at it. With Silverfield openly campaigning for the job and having full support from the players, he had to take that shot from half court. Whichever way it pans out still falls on him.

That’s what I always thought. I may well be mistaken.

That's a good point. Probably should fire Veatch first.

How bout simultaneously ....... plus he needs to be replaced just for keeping Rock around
So you want to fire the guy who hired the coach that coached in the Cotton Bowl and the coach who coached the Cotton Bowl? Wow
Your comment makes NO SENSE. Silverfield did not GET us to the CB.
Your reply makes NO SENSE. Re-read it... it says "coached in the CB" didnt say "get us to the CB"

but yeah point taken, SF did not "get us" to the CB.
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