(10-08-2021 08:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  Very doubtful any MWC team will move to join the AAC, especially the strongest MWC teams of which 4 just said "no." Lessor conferences generally don't have much hope in raiding stronger conferences based on history. And the AAC, without UH, UC and UCF is most definitely inferior to the current MWC.

Were ESPN to throw a ton of money back into the AAC should it add the best 4 MWC teams then maybe someone would listen, as long as there is no buyout cost should the B12 or another conference come calling.

I don't see that happening.

CSU and AF don’t even like the MWC and are looking to leave. If we lose Memphis and y’all lose Boise, CSU and AF will come… and the MWC is then all but dead.

Believe whatever you need, but even without our three schools, AF and CSU see the AAC as a better option and they won’t miss another round. SDSU will come when we ask because you really won’t have any other choice.
I guarantee without Boise, CSU and AF that anyone in the MWC we offer will come over… plus you commissioner is incompetent. Notice CSU and AF didn’t stay because of anything Thompson did.

Quote:The "maybe UAB should join the MWC" comment was a petty dig. The fact is Boise leaving the MWC isn't nearly as bad as UC, UCF, UH and Memphis leaving the AAC. And I would be more than happy to make a wager with you that the MWC TV deal will be equal to or better than the AAC when the dust settles.

Your behavior on this board has been deplorable and many times you’ve acted like a troll and yet you want to be offended? Please.

You don’t get to cry after all you’ve done. Maybe treat the members of this board with any level of decency before getting in your feels and crying about a “dig”. You’ve done WAY worse and you are in fact a guest on this board.

(10-09-2021 10:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 08:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  Very doubtful any MWC team will move to join the AAC, especially the strongest MWC teams of which 4 just said "no." Lessor conferences generally don't have much hope in raiding stronger conferences based on history. And the AAC, without UH, UC and UCF is most definitely inferior to the current MWC.

Were ESPN to throw a ton of money back into the AAC should it add the best 4 MWC teams then maybe someone would listen, as long as there is no buyout cost should the B12 or another conference come calling.

I don't see that happening.

CSU and AF don’t even like the MWC and are looking to leave. If we lose Memphis and y’all lose Boise, CSU and AF will come… and the MWC is then all but dead.

Believe whatever you need, but even without our three schools, AF and CSU see the AAC as a better option and they won’t miss another round. SDSU will come when we ask because you really won’t have any other choice.
I guarantee without Boise, CSU and AF that anyone in the MWC we offer will come over… plus you commissioner is incompetent. Notice CSU and AF didn’t stay because of anything Thompson did.

And yet that didn't happen. No MWC is interested in joining the AAC right now. and for good reason. Sorry.

(10-10-2021 06:52 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 10:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 08:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  Very doubtful any MWC team will move to join the AAC, especially the strongest MWC teams of which 4 just said "no." Lessor conferences generally don't have much hope in raiding stronger conferences based on history. And the AAC, without UH, UC and UCF is most definitely inferior to the current MWC.

Were ESPN to throw a ton of money back into the AAC should it add the best 4 MWC teams then maybe someone would listen, as long as there is no buyout cost should the B12 or another conference come calling.

I don't see that happening.

CSU and AF don’t even like the MWC and are looking to leave. If we lose Memphis and y’all lose Boise, CSU and AF will come… and the MWC is then all but dead.

Believe whatever you need, but even without our three schools, AF and CSU see the AAC as a better option and they won’t miss another round. SDSU will come when we ask because you really won’t have any other choice.
I guarantee without Boise, CSU and AF that anyone in the MWC we offer will come over… plus you commissioner is incompetent. Notice CSU and AF didn’t stay because of anything Thompson did.

And yet that didn't happen. No MWC is interested in joining the AAC right now. and for good reason. Sorry.

Money has, and always will talk. Just be patient until the right time.

(10-10-2021 07:08 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 06:52 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 10:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 08:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  Very doubtful any MWC team will move to join the AAC, especially the strongest MWC teams of which 4 just said "no." Lessor conferences generally don't have much hope in raiding stronger conferences based on history. And the AAC, without UH, UC and UCF is most definitely inferior to the current MWC.

Were ESPN to throw a ton of money back into the AAC should it add the best 4 MWC teams then maybe someone would listen, as long as there is no buyout cost should the B12 or another conference come calling.

I don't see that happening.

CSU and AF don’t even like the MWC and are looking to leave. If we lose Memphis and y’all lose Boise, CSU and AF will come… and the MWC is then all but dead.

Believe whatever you need, but even without our three schools, AF and CSU see the AAC as a better option and they won’t miss another round. SDSU will come when we ask because you really won’t have any other choice.
I guarantee without Boise, CSU and AF that anyone in the MWC we offer will come over… plus you commissioner is incompetent. Notice CSU and AF didn’t stay because of anything Thompson did.

And yet that didn't happen. No MWC is interested in joining the AAC right now. and for good reason. Sorry.

Money has, and always will talk. Just be patient until the right time.

It's not that much money.

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(10-10-2021 06:52 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 10:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 08:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  Very doubtful any MWC team will move to join the AAC, especially the strongest MWC teams of which 4 just said "no." Lessor conferences generally don't have much hope in raiding stronger conferences based on history. And the AAC, without UH, UC and UCF is most definitely inferior to the current MWC.

Were ESPN to throw a ton of money back into the AAC should it add the best 4 MWC teams then maybe someone would listen, as long as there is no buyout cost should the B12 or another conference come calling.

I don't see that happening.

CSU and AF don’t even like the MWC and are looking to leave. If we lose Memphis and y’all lose Boise, CSU and AF will come… and the MWC is then all but dead.

Believe whatever you need, but even without our three schools, AF and CSU see the AAC as a better option and they won’t miss another round. SDSU will come when we ask because you really won’t have any other choice.
I guarantee without Boise, CSU and AF that anyone in the MWC we offer will come over… plus you commissioner is incompetent. Notice CSU and AF didn’t stay because of anything Thompson did.

And yet that didn't happen. No MWC is interested in joining the AAC right now. and for good reason. Sorry.

Bolded. Operative words.

its still so odd to me how SDSU fans (atleast the 4 or 5 that post here) are the most adamant mwc homers, who are saying they want nothing to do with the aac

SDSU has the most to gain by being in the aac, its not even close...as far as Budget and Athletic success sdsu is by far the best big 12 option not in consideration.. SDSU has not been linked to the big 12 by any credible source.. NOT ONE .. colorado state who isnt even great at sports have been credibly linked.. you didnt make the top 11 for the big 12

coming to the aac and beating aac teams, on a drastically better tv deal with more exposure on eastern time .. is literally the missing piece for them to as brand and a p5 candidate

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im mentioning this becuase i was just going over SDSU's and Coastals schedule to see if Houston would jump them if we won out..and knew nothing about sdsu since they are never talked about on ESPN

did you know EVERY SDSU (but 2) will be on CBBSN or Worse....7! SEVEN CBSSN games!!!...1 pac12 network game, 1 online Stadium game, and one likely local/stadium Hawaii game
EVERY game starts at 10 or 10:30 eastern time to boot.. with a TBA for the hawaii game which could be like 1am start time

They had 1 weekday fs1 game (projected 300k or less viewers), and then the ONLY good exposure game 1 end of the season CBS game .. 1 total notable game for a potential top 15 team

THIS IS WHAT SDSU FANS ARE FIGHTING FOR.. 99% of college football fans will not watch your games except maybe the Boise game ...cbssn is so trash, half of the sdsu fans cant even catch sdsu games, its HEAVY complaints when our bad AAC teams get more than 3 games there, but a top 25 team for full season??? ..with covid restriction, sdsu only allows 10k fans too.. this could historically be your greatest team ever (As far as final AP raNkings) and NO ONE will see it.. and you are ADAMANTLY fighting to sustain that, from a league that is offering you 6-8 ESPN/ABC and 2-4 ESPN2 in PRIMETIME games if you are having a top 25 season...

no matter how good youll be for the next 5 years you are going to be on CBSSN for every conference, and home non-conference game for 85% of your games , and you re likely to sustain the same tv partners after those 5 years

(10-11-2021 12:18 AM)pesik Wrote:  its still so odd to me how SDSU fans (atleast the 4 or 5 that post here) are the most adamant mwc homers, who are saying they want nothing to do with the aac

SDSU has the most to gain by being in the aac, its not even close...as far as Budget and Athletic success sdsu is by far the best big 12 option not in consideration.. SDSU has not been linked to the big 12 by any credible source.. NOT ONE .. colorado state who isnt even great at sports have been credibly linked.. you didnt make the top 11 for the big 12

coming to the aac and beating aac teams, on a drastically better tv deal with more exposure on eastern time .. is literally the missing piece for them to as brand and a p5 candidate

----------------------------------------------------------------------

im mentioning this becuase i was just going over SDSU's and Coastals schedule to see if Houston would jump them if we won out..and knew nothing about sdsu since they are never talked about on ESPN

did you know EVERY SDSU (but 2) will be on CBBSN or Worse....7! SEVEN CBSSN games!!!...1 pac12 network game, 1 online Stadium game, and one likely local/stadium Hawaii game
EVERY game starts at 10 or 10:30 eastern time to boot.. with a TBA for the hawaii game which could be like 1am start time

They had 1 weekday fs1 game (projected 300k or less viewers), and then the ONLY good exposure game 1 end of the season CBS game .. 1 total notable game for a potential top 15 team

THIS IS WHAT SDSU FANS ARE FIGHTING FOR.. 99% of college football fans will not watch your games except maybe the Boise game ...cbssn is so trash, half of the sdsu fans cant even catch sdsu games, its HEAVY complaints when our bad AAC teams get more than 3 games there, but a top 25 team for full season??? ..with covid restriction, sdsu only allows 10k fans too.. this could historically be your greatest team ever (As far as final AP raNkings) and NO ONE will see it.. and you are ADAMANTLY fighting to sustain that, from a league that is offering you 6-8 ESPN/ABC and 2-4 ESPN2 in PRIMETIME games if you are having a top 25 season...

no matter how good youll be for the next 5 years you are going to be on CBSSN for every conference, and home non-conference game for 85% of your games , and you re likely to sustain the same tv partners after those 5 years

^Telling it like it is.^

(10-11-2021 12:18 AM)pesik Wrote:  its still so odd to me how SDSU fans (atleast the 4 or 5 that post here) are the most adamant mwc homers, who are saying they want nothing to do with the aac

SDSU has the most to gain by being in the aac, its not even close...as far as Budget and Athletic success sdsu is by far the best big 12 option not in consideration.. SDSU has not been linked to the big 12 by any credible source.. NOT ONE .. colorado state who isnt even great at sports have been credibly linked.. you didnt make the top 11 for the big 12

coming to the aac and beating aac teams, on a drastically better tv deal with more exposure on eastern time .. is literally the missing piece for them to as brand and a p5 candidate

----------------------------------------------------------------------

im mentioning this becuase i was just going over SDSU's and Coastals schedule to see if Houston would jump them if we won out..and knew nothing about sdsu since they are never talked about on ESPN

did you know EVERY SDSU (but 2) will be on CBBSN or Worse....7! SEVEN CBSSN games!!!...1 pac12 network game, 1 online Stadium game, and one likely local/stadium Hawaii game
EVERY game starts at 10 or 10:30 eastern time to boot.. with a TBA for the hawaii game which could be like 1am start time

They had 1 weekday fs1 game (projected 300k or less viewers), and then the ONLY good exposure game 1 end of the season CBS game .. 1 total notable game for a potential top 15 team

THIS IS WHAT SDSU FANS ARE FIGHTING FOR.. 99% of college football fans will not watch your games except maybe the Boise game ...cbssn is so trash, half of the sdsu fans cant even catch sdsu games, its HEAVY complaints when our bad AAC teams get more than 3 games there, but a top 25 team for full season??? ..with covid restriction, sdsu only allows 10k fans too.. this could historically be your greatest team ever (As far as final AP raNkings) and NO ONE will see it.. and you are ADAMANTLY fighting to sustain that, from a league that is offering you 6-8 ESPN/ABC and 2-4 ESPN2 in PRIMETIME games if you are having a top 25 season...

no matter how good youll be for the next 5 years you are going to be on CBSSN for every conference, and home non-conference game for 85% of your games , and you re likely to sustain the same tv partners after those 5 years

It is not that SDSU fans are MW Homers. It’s that we see the obvious evidence that the AAC is nothing more than a lateral move as it relates to football and basketball. Then, you combine this with long travel routes, and no longer player rivals like UNLV in basketball and Fresno in football, and it just seems foolish.

Of course, the people that make these decisions also agree. As does most everyone else outside of the AAC Boardasylum.

On a personal note, I despise ESPN, and have always enjoyed watching games on CBSSN. Going on FS1 is a fun change as well. Reasonable people can disagree.

Enjoy the next ten years of ESPN

(10-11-2021 06:10 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 12:18 AM)pesik Wrote:  its still so odd to me how SDSU fans (atleast the 4 or 5 that post here) are the most adamant mwc homers, who are saying they want nothing to do with the aac

SDSU has the most to gain by being in the aac, its not even close...as far as Budget and Athletic success sdsu is by far the best big 12 option not in consideration.. SDSU has not been linked to the big 12 by any credible source.. NOT ONE .. colorado state who isnt even great at sports have been credibly linked.. you didnt make the top 11 for the big 12

coming to the aac and beating aac teams, on a drastically better tv deal with more exposure on eastern time .. is literally the missing piece for them to as brand and a p5 candidate

----------------------------------------------------------------------

im mentioning this becuase i was just going over SDSU's and Coastals schedule to see if Houston would jump them if we won out..and knew nothing about sdsu since they are never talked about on ESPN

did you know EVERY SDSU (but 2) will be on CBBSN or Worse....7! SEVEN CBSSN games!!!...1 pac12 network game, 1 online Stadium game, and one likely local/stadium Hawaii game
EVERY game starts at 10 or 10:30 eastern time to boot.. with a TBA for the hawaii game which could be like 1am start time

They had 1 weekday fs1 game (projected 300k or less viewers), and then the ONLY good exposure game 1 end of the season CBS game .. 1 total notable game for a potential top 15 team

THIS IS WHAT SDSU FANS ARE FIGHTING FOR.. 99% of college football fans will not watch your games except maybe the Boise game ...cbssn is so trash, half of the sdsu fans cant even catch sdsu games, its HEAVY complaints when our bad AAC teams get more than 3 games there, but a top 25 team for full season??? ..with covid restriction, sdsu only allows 10k fans too.. this could historically be your greatest team ever (As far as final AP raNkings) and NO ONE will see it.. and you are ADAMANTLY fighting to sustain that, from a league that is offering you 6-8 ESPN/ABC and 2-4 ESPN2 in PRIMETIME games if you are having a top 25 season...

no matter how good youll be for the next 5 years you are going to be on CBSSN for every conference, and home non-conference game for 85% of your games , and you re likely to sustain the same tv partners after those 5 years

It is not that SDSU fans are MW Homers. It’s that we see the obvious evidence that the AAC is nothing more than a lateral move as it relates to football and basketball. Then, you combine this with long travel routes, and no longer player rivals like UNLV in basketball and Fresno in football, and it just seems foolish.

Of course, the people that make these decisions also agree. As does most everyone else outside of the AAC Boardasylum.

On a personal note, I despise ESPN, and have always enjoyed watching games on CBSSN. Going on FS1 is a fun change as well. Reasonable people can disagree.

Enjoy the next ten years of ESPN

Don’t worry we are and we will.

(10-11-2021 06:10 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  On a personal note, I despise ESPN, and have always enjoyed watching games on CBSSN. Going on FS1 is a fun change as well. Reasonable people can disagree.

Enjoy the next ten years of ESPN

okay, i get it now.. sdsu fans have never majorly been on espn so they have no clue what they are missing out .. theyve exclusively being on a bad networks, i dont think sdsu has ever been on a good tv deal ever (which likely play into why their brand isnt bigger)

i think you are confusing, ESPN the monopoly, and ESPN the tv distribution network..
CBSSN has great announcers (very g5 informed) but horrific distribution and visibility

no reasonable person wants their games on cbssn... ESPNNews is in more households than CBSSN
the aac was 80% ESPN, 20% CBSSN in our old deal..google "cbssn" on this board over the last 8 years, it's 90% pure hatred for their distribution and 10% complementing the announcers

CBSSN-
- does not provide online full replay like espn/fox sports
- does not promote the games on cbs main or any network
- does not make highlights for games on its network (for online or anywhere)
- already mentioned, in less households than the worst espn network
- only created a way to watch online 3years ago, espn has had an online option for close to 10 years
- cbssn has no social media or outreach method beyond what is on the tv
- cbssn has no p5 under contract, yet all their college sports shows are about p5 exclusively
- cbs is extremely trigger happy with the copyright infringement (unlike espn who doesnt care)..so it's rare for full cbssn games to be put on youtube. ive asked channels who put full games online for cbssn game, they say its higher risk to upload those games


ive made this same joke for the last 8 years... cbssports is where games go to die, if you are not one of the 80-100k viewers that watched it live on tv, then that game never existed.. you will never see it or highlights of it..its gone

-- also espn produces espn+ shows for aac teams: "The Harder Way" (memphis basketball) "Our Time: UCF Football", "The Hilltop" (SMU football)...all 3 and hardknocks/last chance u style documentary that follows the team throughout the season

interesting side note, our new deal doesnt include cbssn (except navy home games)..aresco said we had the option to get cbssn but chose not to (like in our old deal for lower-tier games), said espn+ for our lower-tier games were drastically more accessible, and games on espn+ are allowed to be sublicensed to local tv networks

no reasonable person wants cbssn... ill chose 3million viewers on espn over 80k on cbssn..so will everyone else who isnt trying to be biased ..ESPN hatred or not..as Houston goes to the big 12, i think its imperative the new big 12 tv deal includes atleast 50% ESPN like it does now
whats crazy is that boise is forcible is making the mwc not sell their content to cbssn..and sell it to ESPN and that where you want to be?

(10-11-2021 09:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 06:10 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  On a personal note, I despise ESPN, and have always enjoyed watching games on CBSSN. Going on FS1 is a fun change as well. Reasonable people can disagree.

Enjoy the next ten years of ESPN

okay, i get it now.. sdsu fans have never majorly been on espn so they have no clue what they are missing out .. theyve exclusively being on a bad networks, i dont think sdsu has ever been on a good tv deal ever (which likely play into why their brand isnt bigger)

i think you are confusing, ESPN the monopoly, and ESPN the tv distribution network..
CBSSN has great announcers (very g5 informed) but horrific distribution and visibility

no reasonable person wants their games on cbssn... ESPNNews is in more households than CBSSN
the aac was 80% ESPN, 20% CBSSN in our old deal..google "cbssn" on this board over the last 8 years, it's 90% pure hatred for their distribution and 10% complementing the announcers

CBSSN-
- does not provide online full replay like espn/fox sports
- does not promote the games on cbs main or any network
- does not make highlights for games on its network (for online or anywhere)
- already mentioned, in less households than the worst espn network
- only created a way to watch online 3years ago, espn has had an online option for close to 10 years
- cbssn has no social media or outreach method beyond what is on the tv
- cbssn has no p5 under contract, yet all their college sports shows are about p5 exclusively
- cbs is extremely trigger happy with the copyright infringement (unlike espn who doesnt care)..so it's rare for full cbssn games to be put on youtube. ive asked channels who put full games online for cbssn game, they say its higher risk to upload those games


ive made this same joke for the last 8 years... cbssports is where games go to dies, if you are not one of the 80-100k viewers that watched it live on tv, then that game never existed.. you will never see it or highlights of it..its gone

-- also espn produces espn+ shows for aac teams: "The Harder Way" (memphis basketball) "Our Time: UCF Football", "The Hilltop" (SMU football)...all 3 and hardknocks/last chance u style documentary that follows the team throughout the season

interesting side note, our new deal doesnt include cbssn (except navy home games)..aresco said we had the option to get cbssn but chose not to (like in our old deal for lower-tier games), said espn+ for our lower-tier games were drastically more accessible, and games on espn+ are allowed to be sublicensed to local tv networks

no reasonable person wants cbssn... ill chose 3million viewers on espn over 80k on cbssn..so will everyone else who isnt trying to be biased ..ESPN hatred or not..as Houston goes to the big 12, i think its imperative the new big 12 tv deal includes atleast 50% ESPN like it does now
whats crazy is that boise is forcible is making the mwc not sell their content to cbssn..and sell it to ESPN and that where you want to be?

I stopped reading after the first sentence, as SDSU, BYU, CSU and the WAC were the original evening games on ESPN back in the 90s. It’s what allowed Marshall Faulk to almost win the Heisman in a 5-5-1 football team.

ESPN is unwatchable outside of the actual games, and I am able to watch every single Aztec game while living abroad. No complaints here.

you have a habit of "announcing you stopped reading"..we don't care, you don't have to announce it, just make your response

and your response for the sdsu hasnt been on major tv ..was to note the 90s?????

and you missed the bigger point... diehards will always find a way... in houston c-usa years we watched games via CSTV..which was someone connected the stadium video board to the internet and then put the radio announcers over it.. i could watch the game "so no complaints"..memphis basketball played games in jamaica last year (foreign tour), we watched it via someone in attendance cellphone streaming

the conversation wasnt about "fanhoods" accessibility to the game, but sdsu's brand ...cbssn with 10:30ET start time likely draws 50-80k viewers (with no replay or highlight option)...
What's the point of achieving something great if no one gets to see it...if it isn't reaching new fans, if it isn't reaching recruits.. if it isnt accessible to ALL sdsu fans

ive seen more talks about utsa being undefeated on sports shows than SDSU, who has beaten 2 p5 ... 1 cincy game likely has more viewers than every sdsu game put together (except the Boise game)

CBSSN is not a win...you being in denial about it doesnt change that ..being stuck with cbssn for 5year (likely 15 years as mwc likely just renews) is a terrible place to be

SDSU fan likes being on FSI and CBSN... then wonders why half the world doesnt know that San Diego has a college team.

(10-08-2021 11:34 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 11:06 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Don't think it's dead either. Neither CSU/AFA AD even came close to closing the door. Hell they were both arguably more complementary to the AAC than they were to their own league. The B12 hinting around at adding more teams is holding up everyone.

ITs a brilliant move on their part. Keep the MWC and AAC unstable so they wont form anything together. They may never expand but just do this to keep any conference from challenging them in the future.

I think this is wrong. There are two reasons that the L8 stayed together and righted the ship on the B12. First, once they were raided, none of the better conferences saw enough value in them to split the pie thinner. Second, it was quickly obvious that there was nowhere to flee to. They had to stay together and rebuild or their finances were in the dumper.

That does not mean that there are not schools who see it as far less stable and would like to weasel their way into the B1G or the PAC. You know Kansas wants into the B1G so bad it hurts, for instance. If they can negotiate their way in over time, when they are no longer dealing from the complete weakness they were in a few weeks ago, they'll go. I think the L8 knows that several will jump if they get the chance. They're saying that there will be further additions because they know that there is a significant chance that someone will bolt.

I can absolutely see the B12 inviting Memphis, Boise, San Diego St, and one more (roll your own) after UT/OU are gone or the exit agreement reached. SDSU has put together a good season at the right time, and they'd be a finger in the eye of the PAC and a recruiting foothold for the B12.

Throw in that the B12 is going to pay out more than the AAC and be closer to the MWC teams than the AAC, so I don't expect them to come here if they can get a B12 invite or if they've been told one is forthcoming.

Some egos need to be dropped and let's get the best option done. The MWC and AAC need each other. Each conference want's the others schools....so suck the ego up and get a full merger done. It is truly best for the individual schools.

Both conferences want the same thing and that is to be in the "Best of the rest" conference. They only way the can do that is to combine.

Be different...be the first conference to go to pods to reduce travel. This really isn't that difficult...play 4 games against your pod, 2 games against next closest pod, and then 1 game each against 2 furthest pods. Have a semi final and championship game. At worst you have one longer travel game each year.

TV networks would love this because of the amount of content and all time zones. Would be a good basketball and football league. If you lose Boise, Memphis, USF, etc. to B12 then you just move on with the current league.

New American Conference:

East: Temple, ECU, Navy, USF, Memphis

Central: SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, AF, CSU

Mountain: UNLV, Boise, Utah St., Wyoming, New Mexico

West: SDSU, Fresno St, Hawaii, San Jose St., Nevada

(10-11-2021 03:27 PM)Boots Wrote:  Some egos need to be dropped and let's get the best option done. The MWC and AAC need each other. Each conference want's the others schools....so suck the ego up and get a full merger done. It is truly best for the individual schools.

Both conferences want the same thing and that is to be in the "Best of the rest" conference. They only way the can do that is to combine.

Be different...be the first conference to go to pods to reduce travel. This really isn't that difficult...play 4 games against your pod, 2 games against next closest pod, and then 1 game each against 2 furthest pods. Have a semi final and championship game. At worst you have one longer travel game each year.

TV networks would love this because of the amount of content and all time zones. Would be a good basketball and football league. If you lose Boise, Memphis, USF, etc. to B12 then you just move on with the current league.

New American Conference:

East: Temple, ECU, Navy, USF, Memphis

Central: SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, AF, CSU

Mountain: UNLV, Boise, Utah St., Wyoming, New Mexico

West: SDSU, Fresno St, Hawaii, San Jose St., Nevada

A 20 team conference would be reminiscent of the WAC-16. How many "Airport Meetings" would this system stimulate?

(10-11-2021 03:27 PM)Boots Wrote:  Some egos need to be dropped and let's get the best option done.

This is always the AAC posters stance after Aresco has tried to kill off a conference only to have thrown back at him. It's the AAC with the egos, the Big 12 an MWC has had to fend off the AAC egos.

(10-11-2021 04:05 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:27 PM)Boots Wrote:  Some egos need to be dropped and let's get the best option done.

This is always the AAC posters stance after Aresco has tried to kill off a conference only to have thrown back at him. It's the AAC with the egos, the Big 12 an MWC has had to fend off the AAC egos.

Agree...AAC egos too. They all need to sacrifice for what is best.

(10-10-2021 06:52 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 10:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 08:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  Very doubtful any MWC team will move to join the AAC, especially the strongest MWC teams of which 4 just said "no." Lessor conferences generally don't have much hope in raiding stronger conferences based on history. And the AAC, without UH, UC and UCF is most definitely inferior to the current MWC.

Were ESPN to throw a ton of money back into the AAC should it add the best 4 MWC teams then maybe someone would listen, as long as there is no buyout cost should the B12 or another conference come calling.

I don't see that happening.

CSU and AF don’t even like the MWC and are looking to leave. If we lose Memphis and y’all lose Boise, CSU and AF will come… and the MWC is then all but dead.

Believe whatever you need, but even without our three schools, AF and CSU see the AAC as a better option and they won’t miss another round. SDSU will come when we ask because you really won’t have any other choice.
I guarantee without Boise, CSU and AF that anyone in the MWC we offer will come over… plus you commissioner is incompetent. Notice CSU and AF didn’t stay because of anything Thompson did.

And yet that didn't happen. No MWC is interested in joining the AAC right now. and for good reason. Sorry.

It’s dumb unless the two merge and make a 16/18 team league that spans the country. West versus east in the championship. TV would pay for that. And you would get your champ in the CFB playoff every year.

If the MWC and the AAC merged it would be 16/18 teams and better than the Big12.

Sad it won’t happen because nobody has vision they just want to keep their little fiefdoms. So keep your pitiful tv deal in the MWC- the AAC will grab UAB, App St, whoever and still most likely be the 6th best conference every year.