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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
(10-08-2021 01:11 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  
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(10-08-2021 10:31 AM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  How many teams in CUSA/MAC/Sun Belt have or can afford a $50 million athletic budget? I think some concessions will have to be made if that is a current requirement.
I don't know if it still applies but I think the BOT placed an artificial cap on our budget during the return just to add insult to injury. But I don't think it should be an issue due to the increase exposure means more students, higher national profile among prospective students, so on and so forth.

No, they placed a cap on the amount of University assistance towards the budget.

But to answer the original inflammatory question, yes UAB can afford to go or we wouldn't have been in talks with the AAC since almost the moment the Texas/Oklahoma news broke.

The gap between the remaining AAC schools and the UAB budget can almost entirely be accounted for by 1) their increased media deal; 2) higher coaching salaries; 3) NCAA basketball units. 4) slightly higher attendance revenue. They didn't suddenly start spending a bunch of extra money like drunken sailors on weekend leave. No, they got ACCESS to additional funds through conference affiliation, escalated over a period of years.

If I'm a Tulane or ECU fan, I'm wondering where in the hell did that $ go? It sure didn't buy competitiveness for either school in either revenue sport.
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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
(10-08-2021 05:41 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(10-08-2021 01:11 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  
(10-08-2021 12:31 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  
(10-08-2021 10:37 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  
(10-08-2021 10:31 AM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  How many teams in CUSA/MAC/Sun Belt have or can afford a $50 million athletic budget? I think some concessions will have to be made if that is a current requirement.
I don't know if it still applies but I think the BOT placed an artificial cap on our budget during the return just to add insult to injury. But I don't think it should be an issue due to the increase exposure means more students, higher national profile among prospective students, so on and so forth.

No, they placed a cap on the amount of University assistance towards the budget.

But to answer the original inflammatory question, yes UAB can afford to go or we wouldn't have been in talks with the AAC since almost the moment the Texas/Oklahoma news broke.

The gap between the remaining AAC schools and the UAB budget can almost entirely be accounted for by 1) their increased media deal; 2) higher coaching salaries; 3) NCAA basketball units. 4) slightly higher attendance revenue. They didn't suddenly start spending a bunch of extra money like drunken sailors on weekend leave. No, they got ACCESS to additional funds through conference affiliation, escalated over a period of years.

If I'm a Tulane or ECU fan, I'm wondering where in the hell did that $ go? It sure didn't buy competitiveness for either school in either revenue sport.

And their ability to keep those inflated “budgets” is probably directly tied to how much of a hit they take on the TV deal. They will probably have to make up a few million a year somewhere.

But again, there are few things more constructed in piles of bovine waste product than an Athletic Budget.
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(10-08-2021 11:52 AM)ICB Wrote:  Anyone think that the sudden purchase of 1000 tickets by COB was a "let's make the numbers work" move?

No. That has gone on for years. Where do you think the Legion Field workers were getting tickets to sell?
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I do not understand this thread - no conference requires a minimun budget of its members. The current AAC may have averaged 50 million or so -the revised AAC will be lower average because the potential new members such as UAB will have lower budgets.

UAB current athletic budget is reported to be ~32 Million with 5-7 million of student fees - with 10 - 12 million of outside revenues such as ticket sales, media, donations, parking concessions etc and the SOM has agreed to subsidize up to 15 million a year-(this limit by the SOM not UABOT. I am not sure how could reach this average in the short term
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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
My biggest concern is can we afford the CUSA exit fee and would BOT approve
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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
(10-08-2021 11:56 PM)uabbean Wrote:  I do not understand this thread - no conference requires a minimun budget of its members. The current AAC may have averaged 50 million or so -the revised AAC will be lower average because the potential new members such as UAB will have lower budgets.

UAB current athletic budget is reported to be ~32 Million with 5-7 million of student fees - with 10 - 12 million of outside revenues such as ticket sales, media, donations, parking concessions etc and the SOM has agreed to subsidize up to 15 million a year-(this limit by the SOM not UABOT. I am not sure how could reach this average in the short term

SOM, I’m assuming you’re saying the school of medicine? They give athletics $15 million a year? I have never heard that before
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(10-09-2021 10:19 AM)jaymay2525 Wrote:  My biggest concern is can we afford the CUSA exit fee and would BOT approve

Yes and yes.
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Yes and yes +1
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(10-08-2021 10:36 AM)biglizard Wrote:  The alternate question is can we afford not to go?

This!
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(10-09-2021 01:19 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Yes and yes +1


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Don’t have to afford something that won’t happen 05-stirthepot
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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
Don't compare our budget to the current AAC members. Compare it to those other potential candidates. We compare well.
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Can UAB afford the AAC
(10-10-2021 02:07 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Don't compare our budget to the current AAC members. Compare it to those other potential candidates. We compare well.


Exactly. Remember, the AAC must
Expand. So I think the “how many fans/donors will react to better games in the brand-new stadium” projection is a bigger factor now. What will UAB look like with an upgrade in conf?


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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
(10-09-2021 10:47 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  
(10-08-2021 11:56 PM)uabbean Wrote:  I do not understand this thread - no conference requires a minimun budget of its members. The current AAC may have averaged 50 million or so -the revised AAC will be lower average because the potential new members such as UAB will have lower budgets.

UAB current athletic budget is reported to be ~32 Million with 5-7 million of student fees - with 10 - 12 million of outside revenues such as ticket sales, media, donations, parking concessions etc and the SOM has agreed to subsidize up to 15 million a year-(this limit by the SOM not UABOT. I am not sure how could reach this average in the short term

SOM, I’m assuming you’re saying the school of medicine? They give athletics $15 million a year? I have never heard that before

It's a university subsidy not specific to the SOM. The board capped all the campuses (yes even Tuscaloosa) in the amount of subsidy. Hence the hastening of the death of UAH hockey
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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
If you are having these discussions, maybe the jump is not a good decision for UAB. The budget is your school commitment to every sport but mainly FB, EXPECT you will lose $$ but it's a higher peer group.
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We can't afford not to afford it.
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(10-10-2021 09:08 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  We can't afford not to afford it.

Yes, what he said.
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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
(10-10-2021 07:42 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  If you are having these discussions, maybe the jump is not a good decision for UAB. The budget is your school commitment to every sport but mainly FB, EXPECT you will lose $$ but it's a higher peer group.

Literally everyone is having these discussions right now
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RE: Can UAB afford the AAC
(10-10-2021 07:42 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  If you are having these discussions, maybe the jump is not a good decision for UAB. The budget is your school commitment to every sport but mainly FB, EXPECT you will lose $$ but it's a higher peer group.

You do know that BlazerTalk.com is not the administrative nor governing arm of UAB or the University of Alabama Board of Trustees (only if wishing made it so)

Discussions that happen on message boards and Twitter usually have no bearing on reality and they definitely have no impact on what actually happens
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First of all you have to make sure the AAC is worth joining. That sounds odd for me to say since I believe I was the 2nd person on here a couple of years ago to say that UAB would be joining the AAC.

What if the AAC loses Memphis, SMU, Tulsa, USF? Maybe even Temple if the Big 12 went to 16. Does an AAC look attractive with the leftovers consisting of ECU, Navy and Tulane?

Possible to the Big 12:
#13 Memphis
#14 USF
#15 Boise St
#16 Temple

Possible to the Mountain West who are interested in Central Time zone schools:
SMU
Tulsa

Right now it's hard to know. Hopefully we will know soon.
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