If Marshall is out, JMU and ODU are my next choices. It would be nice to drive to another away game besides Coastal. An ODU trip would be similar to a Coastal trip: a weekend at the beach, with a football game thrown in.

And if App could alternate years hosting Coastal and ODU? That's an App State beach trip every year.

Tough call between UTSA (for Texas State sake) and JMU, but I think the SBC's future lies to the East not the West.

(10-07-2021 01:42 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  I personally like JMU if Marshall is out. They're a football first school with good attendance, and they're located in a smaller market similar to most SBC schools. I'm just not sure the western schools would sign off on them but maybe they would as long as USM is still on board.

I also don't see the eastern schools voting for two western additions so Rice and UTSA are out if we're staying at 12 with USM being #11.

JMU so fits the model that has been core to our success.

UTSA
JMU
WKU

(10-07-2021 02:24 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 01:30 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 01:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I am NOT saying the Herd are out. I AM saying that we can comfortably say they are talking to the AAC.

Assuming that Southern Miss is still good to go. What should the league do next? Setting this as a poll, but you are open to discuss

As a MAC guy, my hunch is that WKU would be an ideal substitute and appealing to the western SBC schools since WKU is situated closer to them than an east coast school such as JMU.

We don't need more western schools, do we? We need more Eastern based programs. Marshall is ideal for basketball and because there is a history with App State and Georgia Southern. Also there are a ton of West Virginians in the Carolinas.

If not Marshall, I wouldn't mind FAU. If their resident poster is to be believed, they wouldn't come without FIU so that's a non-starter.

Give me Liberty or give me death...I know which one I'd choose.

WKU would be a good addition but underwhelming from a fan interest standpoint. Another program App has no history with that driving to is out of the question for most people.

JMU is fine as long as we can ban streamers from stadiums.

I wish people would quit thinking in terms of east addition or west addition.

Look back at our recent history. EKU and Liberty got shot down and then we had a majority of the membership support NMSU but came up short of 3/4ths and then got 100% for Coastal. That’s a heckuva swing from Las Cruces to Conway, SC.

The criteria should be best available, that improves the league, within or footprint adjacent. Thinking there is a magic ratio of east or west is what helped produce CUSA 3.0

(10-07-2021 03:34 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  As for who to take, the best overall athletic programs in CUSA are by far WKU and La Tech.

If you want schools who only care about football then UTSA would be a fit and to a lesser extent FAU.

FAU has the better football program, but I think they also care about other sports more than UTSA.

Just PRETENDING none of the CUSA schools will jump, I would definitely take JMU. They would make the transition very quick and easy imo.

The best over all add out of everyone....including Marshall and So Miss is Liberty.

Ya don’t get a vote without joining. Thanks for playing.

(10-07-2021 04:14 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I wish people would quit thinking in terms of east addition or west addition.

Look back at our recent history. EKU and Liberty got shot down and then we had a majority of the membership support NMSU but came up short of 3/4ths and then got 100% for Coastal. That’s a heckuva swing from Las Cruces to Conway, SC.

The criteria should be best available, that improves the league, within or footprint adjacent. Thinking there is a magic ratio of east or west is what helped produce CUSA 3.0

Ding ding ding.

(10-07-2021 03:35 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:02 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  I would rather UTSA, but I voted JMU because when USM comes, all the East coast babies will whine if the next taken is more than 200 miles from the Atlantic. JMU is solid in football, has good hoops, decent baseball and fantastic softball, and is a good cultural fit. I honestly believe there is no other school in the East that might be available that brings more to the conference.

If you add UTSA and USM you leave the East on an island when there is already reporting that a few schools are looking at options for an East Coast Conference. If the East were alienated in this process further, it could be the nail in that coffin, even if it doesn't happen immediately.

I don't think the West would do that to the eastern members though considering most power in performance and branding is concentrated there.

Yes please. I would take that over the AAC for sure.

Same

(10-07-2021 03:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:02 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  I would rather UTSA, but I voted JMU because when USM comes, all the East coast babies will whine if the next taken is more than 200 miles from the Atlantic. JMU is solid in football, has good hoops, decent baseball and fantastic softball, and is a good cultural fit. I honestly believe there is no other school in the East that might be available that brings more to the conference.

If you add UTSA and USM you leave the East on an island when there is already reporting that a few schools are looking at options for an East Coast Conference. If the East were alienated in this process further, it could be the nail in that coffin, even if it doesn't happen immediately.

I don't think the West would do that to the eastern members though considering most power in performance and branding is concentrated there.

What island? Y'all have multiple schools already, we are 7 hours from our closest.

(10-07-2021 03:35 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:02 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  I would rather UTSA, but I voted JMU because when USM comes, all the East coast babies will whine if the next taken is more than 200 miles from the Atlantic. JMU is solid in football, has good hoops, decent baseball and fantastic softball, and is a good cultural fit. I honestly believe there is no other school in the East that might be available that brings more to the conference.

If you add UTSA and USM you leave the East on an island when there is already reporting that a few schools are looking at options for an East Coast Conference. If the East were alienated in this process further, it could be the nail in that coffin, even if it doesn't happen immediately.

I don't think the West would do that to the eastern members though considering most power in performance and branding is concentrated there.

Yes please. I would take that over the AAC for sure.

We know.

(10-07-2021 01:49 PM)slycat Wrote:  Let's just say AAC adds UAB and Marshall and MW adds no one. Is USM so far out of the door they leave CUSA at that point?

Yes.

Quote:And if they are is there another team that seems to want out as bad as they do.

I can’t speak for them, but I have to think if Marshall, UAB, and USM all bail, WKU would be quickly packing its bags.

If we want best available it has to be USM and JMU. I know Texas State wants a closer team but I’m not sure UTSA is it for us.

(10-07-2021 06:05 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  If we want best available it has to be USM and JMU. I know Texas State wants a closer team but I’m not sure UTSA is it for us.

What about pulling up Sam Houston State as a Texas State travel partner? They fit the Sun Belt really well by having a large student base, good football team, and are in a small town near a big city.

(10-07-2021 06:09 PM)lelandhardy Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 06:05 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  If we want best available it has to be USM and JMU. I know Texas State wants a closer team but I’m not sure UTSA is it for us.

What about pulling up Sam Houston State as a Texas State travel partner? They fit the Sun Belt really well by having a large student base, good football team, and are in a small town near a big city.

Tempting. We have UTA though. Are we 100% sure they are leaving? I think if we can add 2 and keep UTA and Little Rock that would be good for us. Travel partners would only need to be altered slightly if Southern Miss and JMU joined.

USM-South
Troy-GAST
GSU-CC
App-JMU

(10-07-2021 03:02 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  I would rather UTSA, but I voted JMU because when USM comes, all the East coast babies will whine if the next taken is more than 200 miles from the Atlantic. JMU is solid in football, has good hoops, decent baseball and fantastic softball, and is a good cultural fit. I honestly believe there is no other school in the East that might be available that brings more to the conference.

There are 8 SB schools in the central time zone, 4 in the east. If wanting just a little bit of balance is crying in the eyes of the western schools then maybe the eastern schools do need to look elsewhere.

(10-07-2021 06:23 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:02 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  I would rather UTSA, but I voted JMU because when USM comes, all the East coast babies will whine if the next taken is more than 200 miles from the Atlantic. JMU is solid in football, has good hoops, decent baseball and fantastic softball, and is a good cultural fit. I honestly believe there is no other school in the East that might be available that brings more to the conference.

There are 8 SB schools in the central time zone, 4 in the east. If wanting just a little bit of balance is crying in the eyes of the western schools then maybe the eastern schools do need to look elsewhere.

The Eastern time zone is also smaller than the Central time zone . . . think distance/mileage would be a better metric . . .

(10-07-2021 01:41 PM)Cinciflame Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 01:37 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  Liberty

Don’t say Liberty, Panama magically appears in the next comment.

Liberty!

(10-07-2021 01:42 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  I also don't see the eastern schools voting for two western additions so Rice and UTSA are out if we're staying at 12 with USM being #11.

So, somehow, losing 2 western schools and replacing them with 2 western schools is just not fair to the eastern schools?

Good to know what you guys think of us.

I don t care where the school is— east or west. Just need to find a good fit who improves the Belt in some way, preferably in football

(10-07-2021 06:23 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:02 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  I would rather UTSA, but I voted JMU because when USM comes, all the East coast babies will whine if the next taken is more than 200 miles from the Atlantic. JMU is solid in football, has good hoops, decent baseball and fantastic softball, and is a good cultural fit. I honestly believe there is no other school in the East that might be available that brings more to the conference.

There are 8 SB schools in the central time zone, 4 in the east. If wanting just a little bit of balance is crying in the eyes of the western schools then maybe the eastern schools do need to look elsewhere.

Would you rather have WKU, ODU, or JMU?