I am 8n Florida now, I won't be footing bill for bloated pensions. Eventually there will be no money to fund pensions.

(10-05-2021 02:40 PM)Skinut Wrote:  Illinois Policy Institute are a bunch of ideological hacks who have failed at government and have been reduced to spinning out illegitimate "policy briefs." That's not to say your underlying supposition doesn't have merit, I just would caution against using IPI to buttress it as they are a very biased source.

https://week.com/2019/04/25/where-have-a...-of-state/

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/brea...story.html

https://wirepoints.org/illinois-lost-mor...w-on-wjol/

https://www.sj-r.com/news/20170930/getti...nd-college

https://www.news-gazette.com/news/record...335e4.html

https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/Sep...-Students/

..."college students are leaving the state because of higher tuition, spurred by skyrocketing pension costs and administrative bloat." We need more/reliable money from Illinois. That and a state-wide (non U of I-centric) in-state P.R. campaign ASAP.

(10-05-2021 12:08 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 11:49 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 10:19 PM)dc1 Wrote:  Not true, it’s not even close most Illinois high school grads go to Illinois schools. I’m assuming you’re just trying to be funny

Illinois is top 3 in US states that lose their own high school students to other states' colleges each year. Plenty of articles out there. Started to get really bad several years back when everyone realized the state "leadership" (thanks Madigan/IL Dems) mismanaged our $ and pension promises, and Illinois started missing major payments to NIU and the other Illinois schools. "Which Illinois school are you going to" was a real question for my friends when I was in high school, now surrounding states have amazing recruiting and financial incentive programs to pull our H.S. grads away after graduation, they all know Illinois kids are disloyal bulk low hanging fruit, need to change the local culture and opinion ASAP.

one example: https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-...ince-2000/

When we no longer had a budget, that's when NIU and other schools stopped getting money, were inevitably more expensive, and thus students went elsewhere. Thanks Republicans.

It’s not that schools got more expensive for students, NIU actually froze tuition and decreased fees during that time. The quality of literally everything on campus nosedived. Costs were cut at every corner, and students and instructors were the first to feel it while the administration enjoyed their pensions and ex president Baker got free money to leave. Burnt out lights all around campus remained dark for almost an entire year. Dining halls which were already pretty bad got even worse and hours were cut. Swen Parson hall literally had pieces of limestone falling off the side and the only solution was to erect a temporary plastic fence around it so nobody would get hit because they couldn’t afford to fix the problem. Huskie bus lines were reduced and some completely cut. Any machine that would break in the rec center never got replaced or fixed. Longtime faculty got cut, and those that remained had greater workloads and less job security. Programs/clubs/cheerleading got cut, entire departments got downsized and many jobs that used to belong to full time staff got replaced by Grad assistants. One of our own football players, Freshman Isaac Hatfield had his cluster in New Hall get flooded after a water pipe burst before the Maine game. If a high school student takes a campus tour at Iowa/Mizzou/Wisconsin and compares it to NIU, the choice is really simple.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUP3ms7LxRW/...=copy_link

(10-05-2021 04:08 PM)dogdangit Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 12:08 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 11:49 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 10:19 PM)dc1 Wrote:  Not true, it’s not even close most Illinois high school grads go to Illinois schools. I’m assuming you’re just trying to be funny

Illinois is top 3 in US states that lose their own high school students to other states' colleges each year. Plenty of articles out there. Started to get really bad several years back when everyone realized the state "leadership" (thanks Madigan/IL Dems) mismanaged our $ and pension promises, and Illinois started missing major payments to NIU and the other Illinois schools. "Which Illinois school are you going to" was a real question for my friends when I was in high school, now surrounding states have amazing recruiting and financial incentive programs to pull our H.S. grads away after graduation, they all know Illinois kids are disloyal bulk low hanging fruit, need to change the local culture and opinion ASAP.

one example: https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-...ince-2000/

When we no longer had a budget, that's when NIU and other schools stopped getting money, were inevitably more expensive, and thus students went elsewhere. Thanks Republicans.

It’s not that schools got more expensive for students, NIU actually froze tuition and decreased fees during that time. The quality of literally everything on campus nosedived. Costs were cut at every corner, and students and instructors were the first to feel it while the administration enjoyed their pensions and ex president Baker got free money to leave. Burnt out lights all around campus remained dark for almost an entire year. Dining halls which were already pretty bad got even worse and hours were cut. Swen Parson hall literally had pieces of limestone falling off the side and the only solution was to erect a temporary plastic fence around it so nobody would get hit because they couldn’t afford to fix the problem. Huskie bus lines were reduced and some completely cut. Any machine that would break in the rec center never got replaced or fixed. Longtime faculty got cut, and those that remained had greater workloads and less job security. Programs/clubs/cheerleading got cut, entire departments got downsized and many jobs that used to belong to full time staff got replaced by Grad assistants. One of our own football players, Freshman Isaac Hatfield had his cluster in New Hall get flooded after a water pipe burst before the Maine game. If a high school student takes a campus tour at Iowa/Mizzou/Wisconsin and compares it to NIU, the choice is really simple.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUP3ms7LxRW/...=copy_link

It seems like it's a combination of everything you described (which is what happens when the school doesn't get any money), along with other states reducing tuition for out of state students.

Back on the topic though, it's good to see the MAC showing a little strength this year top to bottom, especially the MAC West.