(10-01-2021 04:24 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 04:07 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 03:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 03:25 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Add UAB, App St (FB only) and VCU (Olympics) and call it a day.

Why would VCU join?

IF (and its a big if) the AAC needs to add a 10th school (from Virginia), Liberty is the only program that has the necessary commitment.

I wouldn't take VCU. I think Liberty would pass them soon enough with a league.

So, keep the 8. UAB to go to 9.

If you absolutely need 10, then LIBERTY has all the bells and whistles. Well-funded in both the revenue sports.

Those 10 are better than the MWC 12 if we're being honest. The AAC had all of its teams under 200 NET for most of last year.

I asked why VCU would join .. not why we would want VCU.

Ya, the time to add a top A10 school was when UCONN left. Ain't gonna happen now.

(10-01-2021 04:30 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 04:24 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 04:07 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 03:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 03:25 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Add UAB, App St (FB only) and VCU (Olympics) and call it a day.

Why would VCU join?

IF (and its a big if) the AAC needs to add a 10th school (from Virginia), Liberty is the only program that has the necessary commitment.

I wouldn't take VCU. I think Liberty would pass them soon enough with a league.

So, keep the 8. UAB to go to 9.

If you absolutely need 10, then LIBERTY has all the bells and whistles. Well-funded in both the revenue sports.

Those 10 are better than the MWC 12 if we're being honest. The AAC had all of its teams under 200 NET for most of last year.

I asked why VCU would join .. not why we would want VCU.

Ya, the time to add a top A10 school was when UCONN left. Ain't gonna happen now.

You may be right. However, I think EVERY DROP of the conference resources should be poured into the teams already here. (Not concerned with VCU.)

8 or 9 is plenty big.

(10-01-2021 03:30 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 03:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The rule is you need at least 10 teams to get a conference cut of the CFP $$. So they will at least add to get to 10.

I don't have time to go find it, but pretty sure that is incorrect. Each conference gets 10 shares regardless of membership numbers.

I do not believe that rule has changed. Each G5 conference get 1 million per football member up to 10. With only 8 football member the AAC would only get 8 million instead of 10 million they get with 11 members. Now this is only one part of each conference CFP.

(10-01-2021 04:36 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  So, keep the 8. UAB to go to 9.

8 or 9 is plenty big.

Agree, though I think 9 is the better number.

(10-01-2021 04:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 04:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Add Rice, Southern Miss, Marshall, and UAB. Pretty much c-usa 2.0 that wasn't that bad.

Yeah lets recreate something that had a 1.5 million dollar TV deal!!!

Thanks, but we arent leaving one sinking ship (sunk) for another.

(10-01-2021 04:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Outside of the religion thing would:

1. Stadium size (25,000)
2. Education profile

Be an hinderance to Liberty seriously being considered for the AAC?

I'm not advocating for or against Liberty, but stadium size is not a hinderance. They have so much cash, they could expand to 50K tomorrow without blinking.

(10-01-2021 04:07 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 03:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 03:25 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Add UAB, App St (FB only) and VCU (Olympics) and call it a day.

Why would VCU join?

IF (and its a big if) the AAC needs to add a 10th school (from Virginia), Liberty is the only program that has the necessary commitment.

I wouldn't take VCU. I think Liberty would pass them soon enough with a league.

So, keep the 8. UAB to go to 9.

If you absolutely need 10, then LIBERTY has all the bells and whistles. Well-funded in both the revenue sports.

Those 10 are better than the MWC 12 if we're being honest. The AAC had all of its teams under 200 NET for most of last year.

The presidents will not add Liberty. Period.

Im fine with this

UAB and Liberty are the only teams that wouldnt torpedo Basketball

Add fau to replace UCF

(10-01-2021 05:23 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  UAB and Liberty are the only teams that wouldnt torpedo Basketball

I think WKU and ODU would beg to differ on that. Marshall has been decent for a few years now too.

(10-01-2021 03:50 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I agree at this point add UAB as the ninth member and play round robin.

Exactly my sentiments.

(10-01-2021 03:01 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  IMO, the AAC should just keep the group of 8 it has + UAB.

There is absolutely no reason to build-up or grow anyone else's programs.

Let the other conferences incubate those teams for the AAC.

A 9 team conference allows the AAC to use its resources to their maximum - and cultivate better metrics in football and basketball among those teams.

It's also the AAC's best "Save Face" position, by not opening the floodgates.

The Old Big East and the Old MWC stayed small for years. Their numbers weren't that bad. Also, KEEP THE P6 BRANDING.

The MWC and other leagues will get dragged down by their bottoms. 9 is the best road to dominating the NY6 spot.

A higher % of AAC teams will stay on ESPN linear.

this is one of the better scenarios we can hope for. one thing i know is that we need to pay the BB only schools more money to entice them to make the switch on over. not to replay the big east model but we are in slim pickins and need a good football and basketball league.

i think we can avoid the big east trap because the conference will not be fighting over 20 million payouts and it will actually improve the perception of the conference having BB only schools take part to make up for the lack of good overall teams.

If the AAC was to +1 and stay at 9 and play 8 conferences games I would think they would look at Rice. They belong with SMU, Tulane, and Tulsa. Former SWC and Houston market.

(10-01-2021 09:42 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  If the AAC was to +1 and stay at 9 and to play 8 conferences games I would think they would look at Rice. They belong with SMU, Tulane, and Tulsa. Former SWC and Houston market.

Rice doesn’t get in ahead of UAB.

I think the Blazers are now the #1 addition whether the league goes to 9 or more.

(10-01-2021 03:01 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  IMO, the AAC should just keep the group of 8 it has + UAB.

There is absolutely no reason to build-up or grow anyone else's programs.

Let the other conferences incubate those teams for the AAC.

A 9 team conference allows the AAC to use its resources to their maximum - and cultivate better metrics in football and basketball among those teams.

It's also the AAC's best "Save Face" position, by not opening the floodgates.

The Old Big East and the Old MWC stayed small for years. Their numbers weren't that bad. Also, KEEP THE P6 BRANDING.

The MWC and other leagues will get dragged down by their bottoms. 9 is the best road to dominating the NY6 spot.

A higher % of AAC teams will stay on ESPN linear.

IMO, of all the seeming front-runners for our plan D backfill, UAB is the poster-child of one that is in the early-growth stage. They just re-established their football program like four years ago or something.

In contrast, programs like Marshall and even App State are much more established.

(10-01-2021 04:28 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 04:24 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  I asked why VCU would join .. not why we would want VCU.

If the revenue shares were bigger, TV windows were better, relatively to the A10 (who distributes between 14 teams), and the bottom of the league is shallower (no 200+ NETs), then there is a case to be made.

You'd have to run the numbers.

I think the A10 is way too big.

The AAC needs to stay out of that trap. Even ECU got their NET down significantly last year.

You can't give up those gains. That's the AAC's advantage over the huge leagues.

VCU crushes it in the revenue game from the A10 thanks to a mostly "winner takes all" tournament credits. AAC is split much more evenly, so you'd have to subtract out the difference there.

I think someone did the math out not too long ago and among the teams usually listed for coming to the AAC (VCU, Dayton, and SLU), only SLU would actually have come out ahead revenue wise based on that, due to having the fewest credits across the 3.

The A10 is also more stable, and a conference made for basketball schools. Outside of UMass, the only conference anyone would really go to would be the Big East.

I mean if Liberty is back on the table, they are pretty much a no brainer with their resources and recent success. Also someone mentioned a second school needed in Texas to appease Navy then add UTSA. San Antonio is a HUGE military town, with tons of naval veterans. UTSA also has tremendous upside themselves and are in a big market without NFL (think Orlando comparison but in Texas).

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