(09-28-2021 08:05 PM)steves Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:50 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is it really that hard...

Bunch of complainers.

Are you talking about the CONSTITUTION or BILL OF RIGHTS

Lol...

Are you a strict constitutionalist or are you taking liberties with interpretations.

Which one of those old out dated pieces of paper are you speaking of-----I thought AMERICA was built on a strict constitution ---we have turned our back on both

Oh get the shots dufus ... Best Tiger hoops in forever and your being a big baby. Probably save your life while your at it !!

:pbjtime:dd More likely to cost you your life with heart attacks, blood clots, etc. No one knows in a few years how many people who got the shots start having severe health problems. A national noted scientist stated that we will lose two lives for every one life saved from the vaccine. Make your own choice but do not mandate people to get the jab. Especially those that already have underlying health problems.

(09-28-2021 06:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If this was really about keeping people safe, they would require neg tests for everyone. Its almost like they actually believe being vaxxed means you dont have covid.

Someone get the governor on the phone and tell him to shut this NYC crap down.

Oh stop it. It means being vaxxed cuts the chance of contracting the virus by over 95%. It means if you in an unlikely case of contracting Covid your symptoms are minor and rarely need hospitalization and deaths are almost nonexistent. This compared to the overwhelming % of people hospitalized for Covid are unvaxxed and almost all deaths are unvaxxed.

This isn’t NYC crap. This is right here in River City science and facts fighting an uphill battle with some kind of warped logic born from political leanings and self-centered ideology that betrays the American history of acting for the good of the Others before self. Patriots sacrifice for others. Christians sacrifice for others. Friends and family sacrifice for friends and family and others. I don’t consider the vaccines I took as a sacrifice.

All vaccines have risk but so small it barely registers. But the virus is real. It is costing untold billions of dollars and lives because of the cry of individual rights. We are fast approaching 2 years into a pandemic. Not something made up.

But you go ahead and take care of your individual rights.

(09-28-2021 08:05 PM)steves Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:50 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is it really that hard...

Bunch of complainers.

Are you talking about the CONSTITUTION or BILL OF RIGHTS

Lol...

Are you a strict constitutionalist or are you taking liberties with interpretations.

Which one of those old out dated pieces of paper are you speaking of-----I thought AMERICA was built on a strict constitution ---we have turned our back on both

Oh get the shots dufus ... Best Tiger hoops in forever and your being a big baby. Probably save your life while your at it !!

:pbjtime:dd More likely to cost you your life with heart attacks, blood clots, etc. No one knows in a few years how many people who got the shots start having severe health problems. A national noted scientist stated that we will lose two lives for every one life saved from the vaccine. Make your own choice but do not mandate people to get the jab. Especially those that already have underlying health problems.

(09-28-2021 07:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is it really that hard...

Bunch of complainers.

Are you talking about the CONSTITUTION or BILL OF RIGHTS

You wouldn’t know a thing about the constitution if it bit you in the as-!

(09-28-2021 10:07 PM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 08:05 PM)steves Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:50 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Are you talking about the CONSTITUTION or BILL OF RIGHTS

Lol...

Are you a strict constitutionalist or are you taking liberties with interpretations.

Which one of those old out dated pieces of paper are you speaking of-----I thought AMERICA was built on a strict constitution ---we have turned our back on both

Oh get the shots dufus ... Best Tiger hoops in forever and your being a big baby. Probably save your life while your at it !!

:pbjtime:dd More likely to cost you your life with heart attacks, blood clots, etc. No one knows in a few years how many people who got the shots start having severe health problems. A national noted scientist stated that we will lose two lives for every one life saved from the vaccine. Make your own choice but do not mandate people to get the jab. Especially those that already have underlying health problems.

You mean this debunked claim by a Nobel Prize winner that the trials proved untrue and was a concern of the scientists working on the vaccine?

https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...SL2N2ND0WS

(09-28-2021 10:03 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:47 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:44 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:37 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  The point of a vaccine is not to (and cannot) 100% prevent being infected or prevent spreading it. It can reduce your chances, and decrease the seriousness of illness as you mentioned. But the other part of it is to create herd immunity. Not everyone will get COVID. So being able to vaccine en masse with those who can have antibodies from having had covid helps create the herd immunity that’s desperately wanted. It also helps mitigate the speed at which the virus will mutate - but by not getting the majority of people vaccinated, and more people carrying the base covid-19 virus gives it more hosts to mutate.

So it helps do multiple things en masse that just catching it and hoping you don’t die from it will do. We are fortunate coronaviruses do not mutate as fast as influenza viruses, and we’re only dealing with Delta variant, but that will change as less people get vaccinated out of uneducated paranoia. Being anti-government is a distinctly different argument than being anti-science.

There are those that believe in exact opposite as you stated ----some think more will get vaccinated because of UNEDUCATED paranoia---you know LEMMINGS and SHEEPLE

And those that believe that are uneducated imbeciles who would rather pretend to be rebellious and ignorant rather than paying attention to reality and the literal history of vaccinations.

There is no history of mRNA vaccines prior to the covid19 vaccine for general public use.

There has been research done on it for about 30 years however, and have had human testing recently. Pfizer and Moderna did the proper protocols for testing their vaccines. It was sped up7M due to less red tape thanks yo Trump (one of the few good things he actually did).

But the issue here is the misinformation spread about mRNA and how it works and idiots who think their DNA is being altered.

It’s okay to question. It’s not okay to be purposely obtuse.

Research is a far cry from the fact that there have not been any prior mRNA vaccines approved for general public use & there is no history. They don't prevent illness & they wain quickly. The booster offers no additional protection against the Delta variant.

(09-28-2021 10:09 PM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 08:05 PM)steves Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:50 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Are you talking about the CONSTITUTION or BILL OF RIGHTS

Lol...

Are you a strict constitutionalist or are you taking liberties with interpretations.

Which one of those old out dated pieces of paper are you speaking of-----I thought AMERICA was built on a strict constitution ---we have turned our back on both

Oh get the shots dufus ... Best Tiger hoops in forever and your being a big baby. Probably save your life while your at it !!

:pbjtime:dd More likely to cost you your life with heart attacks, blood clots, etc. No one knows in a few years how many people who got the shots start having severe health problems. A national noted scientist stated that we will lose two lives for every one life saved from the vaccine. Make your own choice but do not mandate people to get the jab. Especially those that already have underlying health problems.

Nobody is forcing anyone with conflicting health conditions to be vaccinated. There is no “likely” in any concerns about, death, heart attacks, blood clots, etc. shame on you for using that word in that sentence.

Who is this national noted scientist. I want to research what he has to say.
Do you realize what you are saying when you repeat something like 2 will die for every one saved? Really? You not that naive to believe that.


I found a discredited Irish professor making unfounded claims.
I found “there is no evidence mRNA vaccines will cause serious health problems or death in the future”.
I found “vaccines are highly unlikely to cause side effects long after getting shots”.
I found discredited Dr. Geert Von Vanden who misapplied basic principals of neutralizing antibodies.

Stop reading Russian, Q and extremist political disinformation propaganda.

(09-28-2021 10:46 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:09 PM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 08:05 PM)steves Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:50 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Lol...

Are you a strict constitutionalist or are you taking liberties with interpretations.

Which one of those old out dated pieces of paper are you speaking of-----I thought AMERICA was built on a strict constitution ---we have turned our back on both

Oh get the shots dufus ... Best Tiger hoops in forever and your being a big baby. Probably save your life while your at it !!

:pbjtime:dd More likely to cost you your life with heart attacks, blood clots, etc. No one knows in a few years how many people who got the shots start having severe health problems. A national noted scientist stated that we will lose two lives for every one life saved from the vaccine. Make your own choice but do not mandate people to get the jab. Especially those that already have underlying health problems.

Nobody is forcing anyone with conflicting health conditions to be vaccinated. There is no “likely” in any concerns about, death, heart attacks, blood clots, etc. shame on you for using that word in that sentence.

Who is this national noted scientist. I want to research what he has to say.
Do you realize what you are saying when you repeat something like 2 will die for every one saved? Really? You not that naive to believe that.


I found a discredited Irish professor making unfounded claims.
I found “there is no evidence mRNA vaccines will cause serious health problems or death in the future”.
I found “vaccines are highly unlikely to cause side effects long after getting shots”.
I found discredited Dr. Geert Von Vanden who misapplied basic principals of neutralizing antibodies.

Stop reading Russian, Q and extremist political disinformation propaganda.

I found--says KING FAUCI
I found--says KING FAUCI
I found--says KING FAUCI
I found--says KING FAUCI

(09-28-2021 10:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:03 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:47 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:44 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  There are those that believe in exact opposite as you stated ----some think more will get vaccinated because of UNEDUCATED paranoia---you know LEMMINGS and SHEEPLE

And those that believe that are uneducated imbeciles who would rather pretend to be rebellious and ignorant rather than paying attention to reality and the literal history of vaccinations.

There is no history of mRNA vaccines prior to the covid19 vaccine for general public use.

There has been research done on it for about 30 years however, and have had human testing recently. Pfizer and Moderna did the proper protocols for testing their vaccines. It was sped up7M due to less red tape thanks yo Trump (one of the few good things he actually did).

But the issue here is the misinformation spread about mRNA and how it works and idiots who think their DNA is being altered.

It’s okay to question. It’s not okay to be purposely obtuse.

Research is a far cry from the fact that there have not been any prior mRNA vaccines approved for general public use & there is no history. They don't prevent illness & they wain quickly. The booster offers no additional protection against the Delta variant.

We are living in the time of mRNA vaccines approved for general public use. We are living that history just as those previously lived the history of polio vaccines and inoculations before that in a time we fundamentally know medicine better than ever before.

They do prevent illness but they’re not 100% efficacy - no vaccine is. Which is why herd immunity is important. Polio disappeared not because the vaccine is 100% but because the virus that makes it falls apart when mutating and we’ve been vaccinated everyone ever since. Same with small pox.

They do wain and the booster does offer protection against the base covid-19 virus which, if we’re looking to get herd immunity to slow down mutation, it is important to get it. At some point, we will see vaccine shots for variants as we do for the flu. Especially since we have people not able to comprehend vaccines or research

(09-28-2021 11:03 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:03 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:47 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  And those that believe that are uneducated imbeciles who would rather pretend to be rebellious and ignorant rather than paying attention to reality and the literal history of vaccinations.

There is no history of mRNA vaccines prior to the covid19 vaccine for general public use.

There has been research done on it for about 30 years however, and have had human testing recently. Pfizer and Moderna did the proper protocols for testing their vaccines. It was sped up7M due to less red tape thanks yo Trump (one of the few good things he actually did).

But the issue here is the misinformation spread about mRNA and how it works and idiots who think their DNA is being altered.

It’s okay to question. It’s not okay to be purposely obtuse.

Research is a far cry from the fact that there have not been any prior mRNA vaccines approved for general public use & there is no history. They don't prevent illness & they wain quickly. The booster offers no additional protection against the Delta variant.

We are living in the time of mRNA vaccines approved for general public use. We are living that history just as those previously lived the history of polio vaccines and inoculations before that in a time we fundamentally know medicine better than ever before.

They do prevent illness but they’re not 100% efficacy - no vaccine is. Which is why herd immunity is important. Polio disappeared not because the vaccine is 100% but because the virus that makes it falls apart when mutating and we’ve been vaccinated everyone ever since. Same with small pox.

They do wain and the booster does offer protection against the base covid-19 virus which, if we’re looking to get herd immunity to slow down mutation, it is important to get it. At some point, we will see vaccine shots for variants as we do for the flu. Especially since we have people not able to comprehend vaccines or research

---"especially since we have people not able to comprehend vaccines or research"...FUNNY that's exactly what us UNVAXED people think about the VAXXXED

(09-28-2021 10:01 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:54 PM)Crazier Wrote:  This is evidence that your vaccines don't work. Why are you vaccinated ignoring this? Based on this article the vaccinated are spreading the virus. Winter is coming
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvard-bus...-covid-19/

Breakthrough cases does not equal vaccine not working. Once again, no one ever in history has said “vaccines prevents 100% of infections.” They can mitigate spread, help slowdown mutation in the viruses that are resistant, and helps create herd immunity. But breakthrough cases still present such an insanely small percentage of cases (and even smaller for those who die from the cases).

Everyone has their right to choose and I am for that. But the spread of poor conclusions because of random headlines is becoming too common among everyone who is trying to gotcha instead of doing some real critical thinking.

I don't know what it will take for you people to realize you've been bamboozled. I have whole bunch of evidence that these vaccine are for a different agenda but you will make every excuse in the world. It's like y'all know messed up but making excuses makes you feel more comfortable. It's like that movie Songbird trying get people to open their eyes. This winter is going to be a tragedy and y'all will still blame the unvaccinated. Can't nobody tell us what's in the shots. All the vaccine injuries deaths are being covered up. But people keep living in your fantasy world because the hammer is about drop soon.

https://www.ithaca.com/news/coronavirus/...c2e99.html

(09-28-2021 07:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is it really that hard...

Bunch of complainers.

Are you talking about the CONSTITUTION or BILL OF RIGHTS

Lol...

Are you a strict constitutionalist or are you taking liberties with interpretations.

Like pretending vaccinated people can't have or carry Covid?

Like pretending natural immunity does not exist?

Like pretending anitbody infusions don't treat covid and work remarkably well?

Like pretending the vaccine works perfectly but the unvaxxed are putting the vaxxed in danger?

None of this makes any sense at all.

(09-28-2021 10:01 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:54 PM)Crazier Wrote:  This is evidence that your vaccines don't work. Why are you vaccinated ignoring this? Based on this article the vaccinated are spreading the virus. Winter is coming
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvard-bus...-covid-19/

Breakthrough cases does not equal vaccine not working. Once again, no one ever in history has said “vaccines prevents 100% of infections.” They can mitigate spread, help slowdown mutation in the viruses that are resistant, and helps create herd immunity. But breakthrough cases still present such an insanely small percentage of cases (and even smaller for those who die from the cases).

Everyone has their right to choose and I am for that. But the spread of poor conclusions because of random headlines is becoming too common among everyone who is trying to gotcha instead of doing some real critical thinking.

Young healthy people do not need a vaccine for something they already have a 99.99% survival rate on and many of them already have the antibodies within them a vaccine is supposed to help create.

The idea that we all have to take this vaccine and that is the only way out of this is not based on science, its based on politics and the worst kind of politics.

Even the majority of older people can simply get an antibody infusion if they contract covid and recover within a few days.

Most young healthy people need no medial attention at all if they contract it and are asymptomatic.

(09-29-2021 01:33 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:01 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:54 PM)Crazier Wrote:  This is evidence that your vaccines don't work. Why are you vaccinated ignoring this? Based on this article the vaccinated are spreading the virus. Winter is coming
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvard-bus...-covid-19/

Breakthrough cases does not equal vaccine not working. Once again, no one ever in history has said “vaccines prevents 100% of infections.” They can mitigate spread, help slowdown mutation in the viruses that are resistant, and helps create herd immunity. But breakthrough cases still present such an insanely small percentage of cases (and even smaller for those who die from the cases).

Everyone has their right to choose and I am for that. But the spread of poor conclusions because of random headlines is becoming too common among everyone who is trying to gotcha instead of doing some real critical thinking.

Young healthy people do not need a vaccine for something they already have a 99.99% survival rate on and many of them already have the antibodies within them a vaccine is supposed to help create.

The idea that we all have to take this vaccine and that is the only way out of this is not based on science, its based on politics and the worst kind of politics.

Even the majority of older people can simply get an antibody infusion if they contract covid and recover within a few days.

Most young healthy people need no medial attention at all if they contract it and are asymptomatic.

Kids are dying, some in their 30s and plenty in their 40s. A memphis cop that was 35 and in tremendous shape just died. I just sent a 40 year old women to long term care. Not obese, no previous health problems. She will never live in her home again. Never breathe right again, never talk. She has to be fed through a tube in her stomach now. And this is just one of many that we send out a week. Most can't talk but the ones that can write do so on a white board. They will tell you they wish they had gotten the vaccine. All of the doubters in their family sure have.

Why risk it? Just a vaccine.

(09-29-2021 05:24 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-29-2021 01:33 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:01 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:54 PM)Crazier Wrote:  This is evidence that your vaccines don't work. Why are you vaccinated ignoring this? Based on this article the vaccinated are spreading the virus. Winter is coming
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvard-bus...-covid-19/

Breakthrough cases does not equal vaccine not working. Once again, no one ever in history has said “vaccines prevents 100% of infections.” They can mitigate spread, help slowdown mutation in the viruses that are resistant, and helps create herd immunity. But breakthrough cases still present such an insanely small percentage of cases (and even smaller for those who die from the cases).

Everyone has their right to choose and I am for that. But the spread of poor conclusions because of random headlines is becoming too common among everyone who is trying to gotcha instead of doing some real critical thinking.

Young healthy people do not need a vaccine for something they already have a 99.99% survival rate on and many of them already have the antibodies within them a vaccine is supposed to help create.

The idea that we all have to take this vaccine and that is the only way out of this is not based on science, its based on politics and the worst kind of politics.

Even the majority of older people can simply get an antibody infusion if they contract covid and recover within a few days.

Most young healthy people need no medial attention at all if they contract it and are asymptomatic.

Kids are dying, some in their 30s and plenty in their 40s. A memphis cop that was 35 and in tremendous shape just died. I just sent a 40 year old women to long term care. Not obese, no previous health problems. She will never live in her home again. Never breathe right again, never talk. She has to be fed through a tube in her stomach now. And this is just one of many that we send out a week. Most can't talk but the ones that can write do so on a white board. They will tell you they wish they had gotten the vaccine. All of the doubters in their family sure have.

Why risk it? Just a vaccine.

FAR more kids died from the flu in 2019 alone than this entire pandemic. THAT IS A FACT.

Do facts and science even matter to you?

Don't point to a one a million case as evidence kids should have to take a vaccine from something they already have a 99.999% survival rate, and that is BEFORE they even have antibodies.

There are multiple scientific studies out there right now that suggest natural immunity and antibodies are more effective protection for young healthy people and kids than the vaccine.

If you say you believe in the science then act like it.

There are no long term studies on how the vaccine will affect children and we know from thousands of cases it tends to have a higher chance of negative reaction in younger people.

Why on earth should perfectly healthy children have to take a unproven and not fully vetted vaccine for something they already have a 99.999% survival rate??? AND they can get antibodies and natural immunity instead? STOP MAKING THAT ARGUMENT, its anti science and flat out creepy.

It makes no sense and defies all logic and scientific data.

Particularity when its NOT the only effective treatment option.

STOP ACTING LIKE THE VAX IS THE ONLY EFFECTIVE OPTION. STOP IGNORING SCIENCE.

(09-28-2021 09:54 PM)Crazier Wrote:  This is evidence that your vaccines don't work. Why are you vaccinated ignoring this? Based on this article the vaccinated are spreading the virus. Winter is coming
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvard-bus...-covid-19/

Harvard is almost 100% vaccinated.
Yrt, due to COVID they are almost completely virtual/shut down.

(09-28-2021 09:29 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:26 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:04 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE

Incredibly sound practice for one of the nations highest infection rates. I recommended this a year ago. Some of you guys royally roasted me and implied Covid was a hoax. Rights being violated and the usual mantra. World coming to an end. I expect it again.

...and we were right then----and we are right now

How so?

(09-28-2021 10:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:46 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:09 PM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 08:05 PM)steves Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 07:50 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Which one of those old out dated pieces of paper are you speaking of-----I thought AMERICA was built on a strict constitution ---we have turned our back on both

Oh get the shots dufus ... Best Tiger hoops in forever and your being a big baby. Probably save your life while your at it !!

:pbjtime:dd More likely to cost you your life with heart attacks, blood clots, etc. No one knows in a few years how many people who got the shots start having severe health problems. A national noted scientist stated that we will lose two lives for every one life saved from the vaccine. Make your own choice but do not mandate people to get the jab. Especially those that already have underlying health problems.

Nobody is forcing anyone with conflicting health conditions to be vaccinated. There is no “likely” in any concerns about, death, heart attacks, blood clots, etc. shame on you for using that word in that sentence.

Who is this national noted scientist. I want to research what he has to say.
Do you realize what you are saying when you repeat something like 2 will die for every one saved? Really? You not that naive to believe that.


I found a discredited Irish professor making unfounded claims.
I found “there is no evidence mRNA vaccines will cause serious health problems or death in the future”.
I found “vaccines are highly unlikely to cause side effects long after getting shots”.
I found discredited Dr. Geert Von Vanden who misapplied basic principals of neutralizing antibodies.

Stop reading Russian, Q and extremist political disinformation propaganda.

I found--says KING FAUCI
I found--says KING FAUCI
I found--says KING FAUCI
I found--says KING FAUCI

So you got nothing. Just generalized drivel.

(09-29-2021 05:59 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-29-2021 05:24 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-29-2021 01:33 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:01 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:54 PM)Crazier Wrote:  This is evidence that your vaccines don't work. Why are you vaccinated ignoring this? Based on this article the vaccinated are spreading the virus. Winter is coming
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvard-bus...-covid-19/

Breakthrough cases does not equal vaccine not working. Once again, no one ever in history has said “vaccines prevents 100% of infections.” They can mitigate spread, help slowdown mutation in the viruses that are resistant, and helps create herd immunity. But breakthrough cases still present such an insanely small percentage of cases (and even smaller for those who die from the cases).

Everyone has their right to choose and I am for that. But the spread of poor conclusions because of random headlines is becoming too common among everyone who is trying to gotcha instead of doing some real critical thinking.

Young healthy people do not need a vaccine for something they already have a 99.99% survival rate on and many of them already have the antibodies within them a vaccine is supposed to help create.

The idea that we all have to take this vaccine and that is the only way out of this is not based on science, its based on politics and the worst kind of politics.

Even the majority of older people can simply get an antibody infusion if they contract covid and recover within a few days.

Most young healthy people need no medial attention at all if they contract it and are asymptomatic.

Kids are dying, some in their 30s and plenty in their 40s. A memphis cop that was 35 and in tremendous shape just died. I just sent a 40 year old women to long term care. Not obese, no previous health problems. She will never live in her home again. Never breathe right again, never talk. She has to be fed through a tube in her stomach now. And this is just one of many that we send out a week. Most can't talk but the ones that can write do so on a white board. They will tell you they wish they had gotten the vaccine. All of the doubters in their family sure have.

Why risk it? Just a vaccine.

FAR more kids died from the flu in 2019 alone than this entire pandemic. THAT IS A FACT.

Do facts and science even matter to you?

Don't point to a one a million case as evidence kids should have to take a vaccine from something they already have a 99.999% survival rate, and that is BEFORE they even have antibodies.

There are multiple scientific studies out there right now that suggest natural immunity and antibodies are more effective protection for young healthy people and kids than the vaccine.

If you say you believe in the science then act like it.

There are no long term studies on how the vaccine will affect children and we know from thousands of cases it tends to have a higher chance of negative reaction in younger people.

Why on earth should perfectly healthy children have to take a unproven and not fully vetted vaccine for something they already have a 99.999% survival rate??? AND they can get antibodies and natural immunity instead? STOP MAKING THAT ARGUMENT, its anti science and flat out creepy.

It makes no sense and defies all logic and scientific data.

Particularity when its NOT the only effective treatment option.

STOP ACTING LIKE THE VAX IS THE ONLY EFFECTIVE OPTION. STOP IGNORING SCIENCE.

Monoclonal infusions work, are FDAapproved. Gov of FL makes the treatment available to everyone then Biden ignorantly intervenes and stops it. Why? Simply to push an ineffective vaccine. And BTW, in the Israel study, the vaccine has been shown to be less than 50% effective & wanes with 6 mos compared to successful vaccines in the past that are over 95% effective & continue to provide protection over the rest of your life. This vaccine's only redeeming value is that it helps protect some from serious illness which is nothing more than than the effect of Monoclonal infusion which doesn't otherwise affect reproduction, doesn't cause heart myocardial issues or lung clots among other side-effects known & as yet unknown.

(09-28-2021 10:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 10:03 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:47 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2021 09:44 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  There are those that believe in exact opposite as you stated ----some think more will get vaccinated because of UNEDUCATED paranoia---you know LEMMINGS and SHEEPLE

And those that believe that are uneducated imbeciles who would rather pretend to be rebellious and ignorant rather than paying attention to reality and the literal history of vaccinations.

There is no history of mRNA vaccines prior to the covid19 vaccine for general public use.

There has been research done on it for about 30 years however, and have had human testing recently. Pfizer and Moderna did the proper protocols for testing their vaccines. It was sped up7M due to less red tape thanks yo Trump (one of the few good things he actually did).

But the issue here is the misinformation spread about mRNA and how it works and idiots who think their DNA is being altered.

It’s okay to question. It’s not okay to be purposely obtuse.

Research is a far cry from the fact that there have not been any prior mRNA vaccines approved for general public use & there is no history. They don't prevent illness & they wain quickly. The booster offers no additional protection against the Delta variant.

All new generational vaccines have no history. That’s kind of what the word new means. But the science behind mRNA didn’t pop up last year. It’s been years in development.

The rest of what you said are claims by mostly debunked extremist and most plain incorrect. Are there still questions long-term protection? Yes but that’s part of the research. Even prior to this vaccines research into antibodies from survivors of 1918 Spanish flu revealed they were still present and active protecting the oldest among us.